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Catastrophe
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Rate Member   posted 09-03-2004 12:18 AM                       
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http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=%22leonard+woolley%22+tutu
"The last king was Shuruppak, King of Ubar-Tutu. The artifact ... BC). Ur: Excavated between 1922 and 1934 by C. Leonard Woolley."


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Rate Member   posted 09-03-2004 12:42 AM                       
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"... according to Arab lore, that there was one before the casing blocks were taken away.
(Do you know which year that was projected to be, by the way..?)"

"Then, after many millennia, someone came along and started pilfering the cladding stones from the pyramids, something that is usually ascribed to the eighth or ninth century AD."

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Rate Member   posted 09-03-2004 01:29 PM                       
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If you want to look for a watermark ...
look 40 feet or more below the pyramid.

You know it makes sense!



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   posted 09-04-2004 10:27 AM                       
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Cat,
According to a dubious source, the GP is not a pyramid. It is the exposed half of a two-pointed figure, an octohedron, the bottom of which is formed by the placing of a (possibly a crystal form) deep in the ground, opposite the summit. There had previously been corresponding crystal forms at the four corners and the summit.

Interesting idea....who knows.

The same (dubious) source proclaimed that the (hidden) library by the sphinx was in a near/parallel dimention, and would never be found by archaeological means, but WAS accessible.

I doubt that anyone here has provided these particular ideas before, but, as I said, DUBIOUS.


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Life is too short for such dubious ideas!

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bluducky

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   posted 09-06-2004 06:56 PM                       
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going into the land ice-sheets again, are we?
but, that is pure speculation, not science!!

You cannot assume a lower water level in the past, and thus a lower water mark, based on ice sheets.

Are you saying that Egypt was covered in a huge ice-sheet?

I certainly hope so, as this is the only explanation that lends weight to your assumption.

If NOT, then why mention it at all? it is self defeating... (think about it)

During Herodotus' conversation with the priests, he was told that Egypt used to be a swamp, NOT an icy wonderland.


recorded history makes mention of watermarks, (as you said) seashells and oceanic debris on the pyramids, (as I said)and this fact indicates that:

1) because during Herodotus' time, the Sphinx was NOT VISIBLE! (He never mentions it, he instead mentions the structures on the plateau solely as the pyramids. Logic dictates that he didn't know about the Sphinx... it has been assumed that it was buried in sand.. a common 'malady' still seen today) Yet, Herodotus' conversation with the Priests indicates that the WATER LEVEL USED TO BE HIGHER THAN PRESENT. (the pyramids were built on the EDGE of the Mediterranean)
( see first long post: http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000440.html)

2) the water level was HIGHER than you assume, based on Norden's information about shells convering the pyramids, and the fact that Emile Baraize had to CLEAN the pyramids and Sphinx in the early 1900's in order to RID the structures of remaining shells/debris, indicating that the shells were STILL a prominent feature on the structures even recently.

(this means that the watermark WOULD be visible high in the pyramid, to the extent of the shells, if not further.)

watermark 40 feet below pyramid?
I remain unconvinced...



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Rate Member   posted 09-07-2004 12:23 AM                       
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Yawn
Life is too short for such nonsense.
 




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bluducky

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   posted 09-07-2004 01:39 AM                       
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  you know, I agree...   


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  posted 09-07-2004 10:16 AM                       
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Gauri circulated a short paper that attributed the erosion on the Sphinx primarily to geochemical effects associated with either an upward seepage of groundwater or with atmospheric condensation and evaporation, which occurred even in the dry climate of the area.[20] But in his own paper, Schoch addressed this objection. Until recently, the water table lay too far below the enclosure floor to be a serious factor. There was evidence of condensation damage to the Sphinx and its temples, but such damage was common to all of the structures on the Giza plateau and was the least serious kind of weathering. It could not account for the nature and severity of the impaction patterns on the Sphinx and its temples.[21]
To the problem of archaeological context for an earlier Sphinx, Schoch replied that urban centers had existed in the eastern Mediterranean at Catal Huyuk from the seventh millennium and at Jericho from the ninth millennium BCE.[22] At Jericho there were large stone walls and a thirty foot tower. No such settlement had been found in Egypt itself but clearly there was civilization in the region. More evidence could be under millennia of Nile river silt. [23]

The stone blocks at Jericho were smaller than the 100 ton blocks used to build the Sphinx temples. But the Sphinx temples were of simple post-and-lintel construction. The prehistoric inhabitants of Britain were able to erect Stonehenge, erecting 40-50 ton stones with only the building technology of a Neolithic society.[24] A very early date for the Sphinx and its temples is not implausible. In denying the Sphinx an earlier date, Egyptologists have unintentionally denied to the people of late prehistoric Egypt an engineering ingenuity that no one has denied to the people of late prehistoric Britain.


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Egyptologists have unintentionally denied to the people of late prehistoric Egypt an engineering ingenuity that no one has denied to the people of late prehistoric Britain.



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Unintentionally?!!

riiight... It's RACISM! a little dark skinned ancient Egyptian didn't know anything, remember?
but the white man knows all!!

(oh gee.. I hope this isn't grounds for warning! :-O)

(i'm just PLAYING everybody...)





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Egyptologists have unintentionally denied to the people of late prehistoric Egypt an engineering ingenuity that no one has denied to the people of late prehistoric Britain.



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Unintentionally?!!

riiight... It's RACISM! a little dark skinned ancient Egyptian didn't know anything, remember?
but the white man knows all!!

(oh gee.. I hope this isn't grounds for warning! :-O)

(i'm just PLAYING everybody...)





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   posted 09-07-2004 06:44 PM                       
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oh yes!
Why is it that catastrophe seems to disappear whenever you ask him a substantive question?

 

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1) I did not disappear.
2) I did not see a substantive question.

 



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   posted 09-08-2004 08:06 AM                       
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well, keep looking, you're bound to find something sometime... 


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  posted 09-08-2004 10:06 AM                       
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Bluducky, I'm a little disappointed that neither of us seems to be wearing the "Moderator" that now applies to Brig, after we both so graciously volunteered. Could it be that the powers at be believe we're Egyptian..?  
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