DEAR, ......................ATALANTE, THANK You for opening the First debate on my first " Rule of Thumb "
for finding the " Original " Atlantis in ADEN.
And I offer my sincere apologies for Spinning this- long a Yarn from your short Reply !
BlueHue's FIRST "
RULE of THUMB " is that:
1 )..... ATLANTIS is a FAKED Latin Name.the original GREEK name ATHE is today a COUNTY of ADEN in South- ARABY !
My
basic-theory is that the name ATLANTIS is a Latin FAKE name
that was an interloper-
GLOSS derived from now lost GREEK originals.
The original name should have been: ATHE-TA meanig " ATHE LAND "Notwithstanding that Atlantis is the " only" name
we know the Mythical Oceanic isle by,
I still maintain in my Theory that it is a Faked Latin name,
because the Greek originals have been mostly lost
and in their latin- translated format, all mention Atlantis
Most Greek Scholars & Philosophers were ever translated into Latin
with that translation someone" Invented " the generic name of " Atlantis "
Subsequently
by 300 ad The Roman emperor for fear of Goldcoin debasement
ordered all manuscripts that even mentioned EGYPTIAN ( goldmaking-)Chemistry
to be summarily destroyed.
Medieval german Monk Libraries were purged of non religious books by 1200 bcWhat happened to them? most were reused as Bookcover-binding !
others which were never read before suddenly came to light ( as allegoric History)
such as" Le Conte/ Geste de Villard Renard "a tale from muslim Spain( ca.800 bc.) translated into latin.
That had laid dormant on the Windesheim-Cloister Library bookshelf unread, from
800 ad till 1200 adIn 820 ad Emperor " Louis -Le -Pieux" ( I ignore his english name.)for some stupid reason hated his father
" Charles - Le- Magne "( I ignore his english name.)
This goes to show that for various reasons boos were indiscriminately or not, burned containing-
original- Greek and Latin treatises, Even
Alexander, had original egyptian book burned at Persepolis in
331 bc.
that we now know from only excerpts in other later Latin compiled books.
In Hindu a Geo name for a Mythical Isle in the INDIAN-( Ocean= Mare Barbaricum.)
Would be PATALA a land under the SEA( of Atlas) with lighted Castles
( No doubt underwater Guyots with excess oxidating Gas emanating as submarine light from their tops)
ATALA is Shefala WHITE Land
Patala is white Castle, under the Sea
PADALA is a land of " GAD " in the Bible
ARABIA(Foelix)=" White-Land "
ADEN means the" White-City "
ATLANTIS is not a unique Ge0-Name for Plato's " Atlantikoum-NESOS "
ATLANTIDE is the Only name for it the French say,
ATLANTIDA was the original name the Spanish claim
ATLANTIDIS was a german name
But these are ALL
FAKED latin names !
Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus named Atlantis( in Latin translations.)
Carefull with" Greek " originals, they may have been School-Exercises
for re-translating Latin copies into " Romanized " Greek ( mostly
ad.)or
bysantine Greek !
AMERICA is First noun singularATLANTIS is possesional noun singular
IF " AMERICA " was written as we do " ATLANTIS "than we should write it as: " AMERICANISD " instead of AMERICA !
So why would " A latin form of Atlantis be correct ?
LOGIC has it that ATLANTIS would originally have been written
in Plain King's english as:" LAND -of -AD "(= ' Atlantis ' !)
The mistake by which Atlantis became an Oceanic Isle from a Coastal Promontory
was the Latin mistranslation of:" Atlantikoum-
Pelagous or " SEA of ATLAS "
into:" Atlanticum- Archi-
PELAGUS " or
Island realm of the Atlantic.( e.g. Bahama's/Bimini.)
I have allready deliberated on the Fact that in EGYPT
several Geo-names for " Atlantis"(=region.) existed.
Firstly the Pharaoh was educated in ADEN/ Araby with the Honorific Title
of " LORD of the NINE Bows of the Foreign lands" meaning: Nine-River cities in Araby.
( The Egyptian HieroGlyph doesn't spring to mind right now.)
These NINE Bows or Cirties of the foreign lands were
Nine principal South Arabian Cities of the Hyksos or Punicians/ Canaanites/ Amorites.
With ther Generic name of :"
SIN - Aii "Oceanic Realm "
"
Atlantis/= ADEN,
As the egyptian PUNT it was called BOOETIA or BUTHO/ PUA or AUA
CONCLUSION:ATLANTIS is an invented Latin compiled name for
ATHE-LAND or AD- Land thus:" in plain English " Land - of - AD "
ATHE is stil a county of ADEN.
REFERING to Herodotus or others for the Atlantis name is stating the obvious Latin translation.
In Plato's time the only Right name for ' Atlantis " as CAPITAL
of " Atlantis" as the KNOWN - WORLD " is: ' ORCHOMENOS '
Other Greek duplicate names for " Atlantis "is HYREA or HYBERBOREA9 Greek: SAPHIROii.)
where the " HYPEROII " or the HYPERBOREANS lived(a derivation is: CABIROII or HEBREWs
I may not have exactly satisfied your Quest for debunking my
FIRST " Rule -of - THUMB " Moreover"Atlantis" supposedly centered on the PILLARS of Hercules" but they too meant" ARABY."
I 'll save That's for another POSTING !
But that is not what my First Rule intended
STATEMENT: the purpose was to show that ATLANTIS
IS a Faked latin name
and thus Atlantologists persue a falsh lead without wanting to admit it !
and that intend I consider in a nutshell fully verified !
If you find truth in my
statement tell it to your friends
if not, tell it to me !
Andecdote: I 've been sent away from the Library today on pretext that a Muslim womsan student, doesn't want bystanders to smell like roses.
(she was a new-newcomer student that reported me, because didn't like my ( persian-)Aftershave named " Samarkande "
I have written a letter of complaint to the Lybrarian and expect a reply by the end of this week. Sure tastes differ, but. . . to be sent away for it,
I expect to be banned or dis-continue the use my expensive aftershave" Samarkande " and use orinary "Eau- de- Cologne " again.
Sincerely "
BlueHue " d.d. 25 March - 2009 from: Delft, Polly-University, Holland.
Blue Hue,
In this post I am commenting on one of your "key" issues about Atlantis.
The origins for the names Atlantis or Atlantic are Greek words (not Latin words).
You can verify this in the following entry from the Liddle & Scott lexicon.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?layout.reflang=greek;layout.refembed=2;layout.refwordcount=1;layout.refdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0179;layout.reflookup=%2A%29atlanti%2Fs;layout.refcit=text%3DTim.%3Asection%3D25d;doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%2317105;layout.refabo=Perseus%3Aabo%3Atlg%2C0059%2C031 Atlantikos , ê, on,
A. of Atlas, termones A. the pillars of Hercules, E.Hipp.3, 1053; to A. pelagos Pl.Ti.24e , Arist.Pr.946a29; hê A. thalassa Id.Mu.392b22 :--also Atlanteios , a, on, Critias 18.5 D.:-- fem. Atlantis , idos, as Patron., Hes.Th.938; title of work by Hellanicus (also Atlantias , Harp. s.v. Homêridai); thalassa hê A. kaloumenê Hdt.1.202 ; hê A. nêsos, a fabulous island in the far West, Pl.Ti.25a, Str.2.3.6.