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Title: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Mitch McBushen on April 24, 2008, 09:28:26 pm
Don't let anyone tell you that this nomination isn't yours, you earned it and don't let anyone take it away from you!  Especially not that awful Ba-rama man! 

It's yours, you keep on going and don't you let anyone tell you different!!  Who are these peons to try and tell you that you can't have it?

Hillary all the way in '08!   ;D


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Lawrence Fragg on April 24, 2008, 09:43:23 pm
Hillary Clinton would certainly be the most fearsome candidate that the Democrats could nominate this year.  I certainly hope that she isn't the one nominated!  I know many a Republican that would hate to face her in the general election.


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Volitzer on April 25, 2008, 01:06:45 am
Thank you COINTELPROs.    ::)


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Tom Hebert on April 27, 2008, 03:06:01 pm
Thank you COINTELPROs.    ::)

Who's gonna tell her it's time to quit?  Howard? Nancy?

Somebody's gotta step up to the plate before it too late!   :(


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Bianca on April 27, 2008, 03:22:38 pm
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_t-EfdceTs60/SBN93WuJtpI/AAAAAAAADaQ/OOICJhThL5s/s200/Olbermann-Keith_sexist_Yikes.jpg)






Olbermann was discussing the election with Newsweek's Howard Fineman, a frequent guest. They topic was, how can a winner finally be determined in this never-ending Democratic race for the nomination? Of course, the assumption was that it was Clinton that should be shown the door (despite clearly still earning her spot in the race thanks to, um, voters). Fineman said that, all the delegate math aside, ultimately it was going to take "some adults somewhere in the Democratic party to step in and stop this thing, like a referee in a fight that could go on for thirty rounds. Those are the super, super, super delegates who are going to have to decide this."

Said Olbermann:



                            "Right.
 

                                     Somebody who can take her into a room and only


                                                                      he


                                                                 comes out."



Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Bianca on April 27, 2008, 03:34:28 pm











Obama's official campaign blog    this morning,


                                                 www.barrackobama.com





See the posts by


                                                    "Y from Alameda, CA"



posted at 3:58 am and 4:25 am).



3:58 am Post:

"Re: HIllary Clinton suprised me | Report to Admin Reply
By Y from Alameda, CA Today at 3:58 am EDT

yea, just slit her throat and dump her in a river in East Kentucky.





4:25 am post:



"Re: Sexism will rise like crazy once Hillary's out | Report to Admin Reply
By Y from Alameda, CA Today at 4:25 am EDT




Just slit her throat, lock her in a car boot, and drive the car into river in West Virginia.

Ain't gonna let no **** screw with the man "




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                         Bianca,

                        Just another 


                              T Y P I C A L   W H I T E   G R A N D M O T H E R


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Seeker of Wisdom on April 27, 2008, 04:07:16 pm
Olbermann has already apologized for that remark, and both Obama and Hillary have crazy supporters that tend to post racist or sexist remarks on their boards.

Personally, I think Hillary has run a very gutsy race.  I'm not crazy about all the things she's done, but it took a lot of guts to come back and win in places like Pennsylvania and Ohio.


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Bianca on April 27, 2008, 05:46:50 pm










From one of HRC's Blogs





One of the members on hillary's forum's sites had encountered something similar with respect to the threats agn Hillary...and she or he posted this info...it contains emails of people who will publicize the vileness and threatening nature of some Obama supporters agn hillary.. if someone wants to email this person... please go ahead...

and the links are:


THE SCREENSHOTS:
http://tinyurl.com/699blo

http://tinyurl.com/5o56kk

THE ACTUAL PAGE:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGCjbY/com mentary#comments


I'm just pasting the info I saw below on Hillary's forum's site (again if you want to send them an email concerning this, the emails are below, I think she even posted her/his letter)
==============================
==============================
would send a letter to the reporter, email address is bbartlett@14wfie.com



Dear Mr. Bartlett,

There are concerns of additional threats to Senator Clinton. A friend who is concerned about what he is seeing at Obama's official site sent me this information. Senator Obama's supporters are becoming extreme and I am fearful for what could happen to Senator Clinton. I would appreciate it if you would pass this on to the detective you interviewed regarding the Evansville threat.

That way you also get it publicized while nicely asking for help. Then

Also copy the following there:

VP/General Manager, dbush@14wfie.com
News Director, cjhoyt@14wfie.com
Ast to VP/GM mhillenbrand@14wfie.com
Ast News Director sgalloway@14wfie.com
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FYI, That actual person is Detective Kurt Pritchett. Per the article Detective Pritchett has traveled around the world investigating internet threats.




"Nationwide, internetwide, you don't see a lot of this," says Pritchett, "It is something that should not be there."




Make sure you send the screen shot, what it says, url, etc.

I am going to post this but I going to see if I can find the detective's info fo you and a phone number for that news station.

I was not going to do any posting as I need to get back to phone calls but I felt like this was too important.


Ok,
Detective Kurt Pritchett is part of the crime unit of Evansville. A general email address which can be addressed to him is info@evansvillepolice.com
phone number 812/435-6232

Since this is FEDERAL, he will at least be able to pass it on to the proper authorities and still investigate on his end.

They also have a tip line that you can leave a message. 812- 435-6194

**Just found this. Definitely send to them as the work with FBI, etc. http://www.cybersnitch.net/csinfo/csbest.htm


Quote:
Cybersnitch has skilled law enforcement personnel. All members of the Cybersnitch Investigator Network are fully qualified personnel who know how to properly and effectively handle online crime complaints. When a crime report is made, it always goes to the right people.

cybersnitch@cyberenforcement.com


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Bianca on April 27, 2008, 05:54:25 pm








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Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Forms of Things Unknown on April 27, 2008, 07:02:53 pm
Maybe I am a little dense, but where exactly was the hate speech or misogyny in MSNBC's hate speech? I remember a remark by Chris Matthews, clearly no Hillary supporter, but other than that it has mostly been remarks about the campaign itself.

An attack on Hillary isn't an attack on all women anymore than an attack on Obama is an attack on all blacks.  People do have a right to support who they want without getting called bad names because of it, right?


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Tom Hebert on April 27, 2008, 08:00:21 pm
Political analysts say that the only way she has any chance of winning is to use the Tonya Harding strategy.

But who wants Tonya Harding in the White House?    ???



Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Kristina on April 27, 2008, 09:35:24 pm
Well, the media is sexist, and they are sexist without even being aware of it (that is how sexist America tends to be these days), however, that isn't the reason that Hillary is losing. 

The reason she is losing is because she planned poorly after Super Tuesday, lost eleven contests in a row, and now is behind almost insurmountably when it comes to pledged delegates.  That's a hard row to tow.  And I also think that Hillary's supporters don't fully understand the process, will only realize that she lost, and so, many won't vote for Obama, while missing the bigger picture.

The bigger picture being that not voting for who the Democratic nominee will mean more Scalias on the court, the continuation of the war in Iraq, and the continuation of this propaganda fed "War on Terror."


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Bianca on April 27, 2008, 10:41:11 pm




QUOTE:



"Political analysts say that the only way she has any chance of winning is to use the Tonya Harding strategy."



Ah, yes, Tom, the "Poison Dwarf" (Tonya Harding).  I didn't know you were a Figure Skating
aficionado......

Well, FYI, the SNIPER did strike today - as threatened - that's why Senator Clinton's SS had to
be increased.

I also wonder who the POISON DWARF really is, Tom?


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Lawrence Fragg on April 28, 2008, 12:28:52 am
Bianca,

The Clintons are no one to be trifled with. Just ask Vince Foster!  The Clintons have literally left a trail of dead bodies in their wake in their mad grab for power. They have learned how to take care of themselves.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if either McCain or Obama met with a Vince Foster like "accident" themselves. Both are amateurs when it comes to playing the game the Clntons are all too used to playing.


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Tom Hebert on April 28, 2008, 05:34:52 am
Well, the media is sexist, and they are sexist without even being aware of it (that is how sexist America tends to be these days), however, that isn't the reason that Hillary is losing. 

The reason she is losing is because she planned poorly after Super Tuesday, lost eleven contests in a row, and now is behind almost insurmountably when it comes to pledged delegates.  That's a hard row to tow.  And I also think that Hillary's supporters don't fully understand the process, will only realize that she lost, and so, many won't vote for Obama, while missing the bigger picture.

The bigger picture being that not voting for who the Democratic nominee will mean more Scalias on the court, the continuation of the war in Iraq, and the continuation of this propaganda fed "War on Terror."


Hi Kristina,

I suppose there is some sexism in the media, but it doesn't hurt Hillary.  For example, in the last debate the moderators never grilled Hillary about wearing a lapel pin.  A woman doesn't have to worry about that sort of thing.

There are probably multiple reasons why Hillary lost the nomination.  For me, it had nothing to do with Super Tuesday.  It was the way the Clintons--both of them--conducted themselves.  In other words, it has less to do with calculating votes and more to do with character, integrity and honesty.  That's not something you can add in at the last minute.  It's built up over a lifetime.





Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Kristina on April 28, 2008, 10:11:22 pm
Well, the media is sexist, and they are sexist without even being aware of it (that is how sexist America tends to be these days), however, that isn't the reason that Hillary is losing. 

The reason she is losing is because she planned poorly after Super Tuesday, lost eleven contests in a row, and now is behind almost insurmountably when it comes to pledged delegates.  That's a hard row to tow.  And I also think that Hillary's supporters don't fully understand the process, will only realize that she lost, and so, many won't vote for Obama, while missing the bigger picture.

The bigger picture being that not voting for who the Democratic nominee will mean more Scalias on the court, the continuation of the war in Iraq, and the continuation of this propaganda fed "War on Terror."


Hi Kristina,

I suppose there is some sexism in the media, but it doesn't hurt Hillary.  For example, in the last debate the moderators never grilled Hillary about wearing a lapel pin.  A woman doesn't have to worry about that sort of thing.

There are probably multiple reasons why Hillary lost the nomination.  For me, it had nothing to do with Super Tuesday.  It was the way the Clintons--both of them--conducted themselves.  In other words, it has less to do with calculating votes and more to do with character, integrity and honesty.  That's not something you can add in at the last minute.  It's built up over a lifetime.






I have to disagree with you on some of these points, Tom. It's true that Hillary does have a high negative rating, but the Clintons themselves only began losing popularity in the Democratic Party once they began attacking Barack Obama, a fellow Democrat.  Bill Clinton left office with the highest popularity of any President ever, even Reagan, and, by a two to one margin, people preferred him over George W. Bush just a couple of years ago.

They actually had a higher support among blacks then Obama did, their attacks on him during South Carolina, of course, evaporated all of that.

The campaign was run badly from the start.  They didn't have any infrastructure in place after Super Tuesday. And, let's face it, once Hillary became negative, she lost a lot of support.  She did get a grilling in some of the early debates, when she was the frontrunner, I hope you remember the debate where Tim Russert tried to pin her down when it came to the idea of licenses given to illegal aliens.  There was also a debate when everyone smelled blood after the loss in Iowa where she also was given a hard time.  Rightly or wrongly, she has her supporters that will rally around her whenever they feel she is treated unfairly and, for them, this isn't simply an ordinary election.


Title: Re: You Go, Hillary!!!!
Post by: Tom Hebert on April 29, 2008, 04:55:11 am
Yes, all of that is true.  That's why I suggested there were really multiple reasons.  And what about Bill and his big mouth?  She can't shut him up!