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Title: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:43:29 pm
Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book

The Urantia book is a momentous work consisting of 2,097 pages of material received from numerous celestial beings supposedly brought to the earth by superhuman, divine beings in 1934. It was brought to earth by the “Orvonton administrators” (p. 354), and the “...Nebadon commission of twelve acting under the direction of Mantutia Melchizedek,” (p. 1319). Its claim is that it is the “finest major divine revelation since the coming of Christ to our planet.” However I have a very different view; as it is a momentous false revelation of mans spiritual heritage, spiritual figment of imagination that uses the Bible to promote its own teachings.

The name of any person who received the content of the book has never been revealed, and all are now deceased. The means by which the papers were materialized was unique and is unknown to any living person. The Founder is a noted Chicago physician and psychiatrist Dr. Bill Sadler. The Urantia Book was delivered to him by seven spirit beings in 1934. Between 1934 and 1956 a group of 36 people, who called themselves the Forum, met to study the original manuscripts of the Urantia Book. They incorporated in 1950 as the Urantia Foundation and the book was first published on October 12 1955. In 1996, the Foundation required the Brotherhood to stop using its name; they changed it to the Fifth Epochal Fellowship. The Foundation relented in 1999, and the Fellowship then changed its name to the Urantia Fellowship.

Herein lies the first contradictory teaching to the Bible which warns of Spiritism (Deut.18:10-12), mediums and other such means in receiving spiritual instruction. Unbeknownst to Sadler who engaged in conversations with his “spirit visitors” on a regular basis, he was trafficking in the occult.
Lev. 19:31 “Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits”
Lev. 20:6 “And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people.” Punishment in Israel was severe Lev. 20:27 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, was to be put to death so they would not defile the people. King Saul when he no longer was hearing from God sought out a medium to communicate.
The Bible explains that the Holy Spirit through its authors have given us God's word for all time. It is complete (2 Tim.3:16-17) and perfect. The apostle warns of anyone giving any other gospel that counters the Bible Gal.1:8-10 (which the Urantia book does, all one has to do is ask if they agree with all it precepts and teachings and will be given a definite NO.)

The purported superhuman authorship of the book is the basis upon which it claims to reveal data that would be inaccessible to mortal man. The purpose of the book is claimed to be a clarification of man's “divine and eternal destiny.”(Basic Concepts, p.1). It asserts it was received through spirit dictation and preaches universality of all religions. It’s concern is with “the spiritual regeneration and evolutionary advancement of mankind through Truths “unencumbered by tradition and dogma” are revealed about Jesus' life, teachings, death and resurrection.(The Urantia Book brochure Urantia Foundation, 1955). Just as animals evolved into humans, humans destined to evolve into spirit beings, called finaliters.

They believe it is like other sacred texts yet superior, the contents of the book are to be evaluated by the “fruits of the spirit” which they produce. In this way there is no authoritative truth but only measured by it subjective effect on an individual.

The book consists of deep and profound philosophical ramblings and shrewd conglomerations of Bible stories and history, as well as other religions. It certainly has the air of being given by a higher intelligence, one that is able to manipulate words and concepts far beyond any human being. At first when reading it (Depending on which portion), it seems biblical and even possible as it proposes new information about God. Much like the book of Mormon it offers more knowledge on Jesus, the destiny of man, our relationship to God and our planet and the universes history.

It is very deceptive as it is shrouded in both biblical and esoteric language and for the ungrounded in truth it can be an false influence. (The only book that is comparable is the channeled book the Course of Miracles. However it is an infant compared to this book). Its purpose is to challenge and distort the Bible as it constantly changes events and persons to be something else. Using the premise and principles and even biblical language these being(s) manipulate the Scripture to a whole new system that only the intelligencia is able to come near to comprehend. When I say near, I mean that even the short sentences are soaked with a plethora of complex spiritual mumbo jumbo that seems to first make sense but its context still eludes you. Of course I can be dismissed as a spiritual infant unable to understand its meaning, yet this is my position and reading the quotes you will see what I mean.

The book is divided into four main sections. Part I describes the central and super universe God as Father, Universal Spirit and Trinity, and various spirit entities. Part 2 deals with our local universe, Nebadon, whose capital is Salvington and has 10 million inhabited worlds. The book tells of the origin and evolution of the central and super-universes, our local universe and the history of our planet Urantia; located in super universe Orvonton, whose capital is Uversa. Part 3 is a history of Urantia, which is the name by which the earth is known to the other beings. Part IV contains a biography of Jesus (Seven hundred pages) including a detailed discussion of the hidden years (from age twelve to the beginning of his public ministry). The Foundation claims this account of Christ's life and teachings is “much more complete than that of -the New Testament, but not contradictory” (Basic Concepts, p. 30). This information is said to be supplied by “a sort of guardian angel of the Apostle Andrew- (ibid.).

According to The Urantia Book, Jesus was born August 21, 7 B.C., had an excellent education, became a skilled carpenter, began a Mediterranean tour in his twenty-eighth year and began his public ministry in 27 A.D. After more than three years, his ministry ended in the crucifixion and resurrection.

The Urantia Book teaches that these beings were created by a God who wished to share the joy and adventure of being to the furthest extent possible. This God dwells in the Isle of Paradise located in the center of the universe of universes.

There is evolution taking place in the many universes involving both matter and personalities. These personalities exist on millions of planets and spheres.

The universe depicted in the Urantia Book has seven levels. The first level, the Isle of Paradise, is the center of the universe around which the other levels form six concentric ellipses. (p.129)

The book gives dates and times that clearly try to give validity to its accuracy of the message contained in its 2,097 pages. I would suggest that any extensive reading should be done with a bottle of aspirin close at hand.

“987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307 of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly segment of Orvonton.” “875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated.” If this sounds like a science fiction movie (star wars perhaps) you may be right.

Next to Havona is the Grand Universe which includes seven Superuniverses, each containing 700,000 local universes. Those Superuniverses revolve around Havona. A local universe called Nebadon lies on the outer edge of the Superuniverse named Orvonton. The planet Urantia, known to us as “earth,” revolves within Nebadon.

From here there is a countdown of various years and stages for the creation of the universe and the earth. “1,000,000,000 years ago is the date of the actual beginning of Urantia history. The planet had attained approximately its present size. And about this time it was placed upon the physical registries of Nebadon and given its name, Urantia.”

“It was at about this time that Urantia was assigned to the system of Satania for planetary administration and was placed on the life registry of Norlatiadek.” This all reminds me of much of the new age and its word assimilation’s or scrambling. Such as Sanat Kumura- notice the same Satania both having the word Satan in it. Is it coincidence or possibly a fingerprint that he is involved?

“900,000,000 years ago witnessed the arrival on Urantia of the first Satania scouting party sent out from Jerusem to examine the planet and make a report on its adaptation for a life-experiment station. This commission consisted of twenty-four members, embracing Life Carriers, Lanonandek Sons, Melchizedeks, seraphim, and other orders of celestial life having to do with the early days of planetary organization and administration.” Notice again a word similar to Jerusalem, the concept of twenty-four (elders) Melchizedek(s) (plural) Seraphim which are all biblical terms persons and beings. What they are proposing is a start of life in this sector of the Galaxy. If someone made a sci-fi picture out of this it would probably do well.

Earth has a long history “The second Eden was the cradle of civilization for almost thirty thousand years. (35,000B.C.)

“These ideas of monotheism matured all over the world not long after the appearance of Machiventa Melchizedek at Salem in Palestine.” this was one of the purposes of Melchizedek's incarnation: That a religion of one God should be so fostered as to prepare the way for the earth bestowal of a Son of that one God. Michael could hardly come to Urantia until there existed a people believing in the Universal Father among whom he could appear.” Again biblical terms but the story is changed. Notice michael is the son of God, something that cults believed especially in the 1800’s.

They have many deities- Supreme Beings, Ascending Beings, Sons of God, and sub divine beings ad infinitum. Within each Order there may be anywhere from a few thousand to many millions of beings (The Urantia Book, pp. 330-344). The Urantia Book speaks of a Trinity of Trinities, three sets of three deities. One Trinity is existential (actual and without origin), and the other two are experiential (potential and with origin). The existential Trinity is called the Paradise Trinity and consists of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. The Universal Father is considered creator, controller and upholder of all things. He started the whole process of evolution because he “willed not to be self-contained.” (The Paradise Trinity is supreme, consisting of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit.) “ The two experiential Trinities are called the Ultimate Trinity and the Absolute Trinity. Both Trinities are finite, derived and evolving. At some point in the eternal future those two Trinities, when actualized, will complement the personalities of the Paradise Trinity ( p. 13.)

Celestial designations are given describing spiritual positions and places such as Salvington, Divington, Nebadon.

DIVININGTON. “This world is, in a unique sense, the “bosom of the Father,” the personal-communion sphere of the Universal Father, and thereon is a special manifestation of his divinity. Divinington is the Paradise rendezvous of the Thought Adjusters, but it is also the home of numerous other entities, personalities, and other beings taking origin in the Universal Father. Many personalities besides the Eternal Son are of direct origin by the solitary acts of the Universal Father.”(p.144)

The book teaches that the eternal Father-Creator created the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, and yet it claims they exist eternally. Their theology is similar to the Gnostic cults, “Proceeding from this creation, he “down stepped himself further in the creation of many additional divine personalities, less than absolute, more and more nearly approaching the finite” (Basic Concepts, p, 2).

Each local universe was formed and is ruled by a Creator Son. The Universal Father, in conjunction with the Eternal Son, brought into, existence those “only-begotten” Creator Sons. Although they are all unique, they all embody the characteristics of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. They are all part of the Order of Michael. (pp. 224-.234)

“When a Son of the Eternal Son appeared on Urantia, those who fraternized with this divine being in human form alluded to him as “He who was from the beginning, whom we have heard, whom we have seen with our eyes, whom we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, even the Word of life” (p.74.)

“On your world, but not in your system of inhabited spheres, this Original Son has been confused with a co-ordinate Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon (Jesus of Nazareth), who bestowed himself upon the mortal races of Urantia” (Ibid)

The Only Begotten Son of God, in the URANTIA book is a mute subject. They present a different Jesus from the Bible, though they may quote the Bible He is not the same Jesus as the Bible’s. Prior to His Earthly life, Jesus' real name was Michael of Nebadon. Jesus perfected his divinity by seven incarnations among various creatures of the Universe. His seventh incarnation on Urantia as Michael of Nebadon (p. 1323) “Our Creator Son (another Order of beings) is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.

“The Michael of Nebadon is the `only-begotten Son' personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity,” (p.366 ). Jesus (Michael) is the Son of the Son of God and the Father in the sense that when these two beings had a simultaneous original thought for the 611,121st time, Jesus (Michael) was begotten.”

Jesus (they refer to him by his real name Joshua ben Joseph) is the 7th incarnation of Michael of Nebadon, the 611,121st Creator Son of God. He is attributed to be the creator of this sector (local) of the Universe “It was scarcely a million years subsequent to this epoch that Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son of Paradise, selected this disintegrating nebula as the site of his adventure in universe building.” So begins the story of Urantia.

The book of Urantia teaches of the hidden years of Christ, from age twelve to his public ministry. It asserts to show the “religion of Jesus,” not the “religion about Jesus.” The Urantia Book’s Christ is only one of the divine sons of God who incarnated himself on Urantia. His purpose was to help us mortals realize that we too are sons of God. He is the wayshower, he is the creator of our local universe, and his incarnation on Urantia was the seventh time he had come to live among creatures of his universe.

All descending Sons of God have high and divine origins (p. 223.)

Of the numerous orders of descending Sons, seven will be depicted in these narratives. Those Sons who come forth from the Deities on the central Isle of Light and Life are called the Paradise Sons of God and embrace the following three orders: 1) Creator Sons--the Michaels; 2) Magisterial Sons--the Avonals; and 3) Trinity Teacher Sons--the Daynals. (p. 223.)

As they function in the superuniverse of Orvonton, the Sons of God are classified under three general heads: 1) the descending Sons of God; 2) the ascending Sons of God; and the trinitized Sons of God. (ibid.)



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:43:58 pm
All Religion is corrupted

“Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that primitive man was a mythmaker. “

They claim we are in confusion on planet earth (Urantia) because the religions presented by various communications as coming from God himself when they came from various orders of celestial beings. “Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.”

We continue to “suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God.” The gods who “shake the earth in their wrath” and “ inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood” “are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the Gods who live and rule the universes.”(p.60)

While the Urantia book claims to give an accurate account of Christ it challenges the Bibles record as well as Jesus’ own words as true. Keep in mind that they claim all the religious books are corrupted, lest it become to obvious that it is an attack on the Bibles authority only. But this is exactly what we find interlaced throughout its pages. The Urantia Book says that, although “Christianity does contain more of the Master's gospel than any other religion,” it made “two great mistakes”: 1 ) . . . the teaching that Jesus was the sacrificed Son who would satisfy the Father's stem justice and appease the divine wrath (and)2 )...to organize the Christian teaching so completely about the person of Jesus.

We are told Christ toured the Roman Empire with two people from India in the years preceding his ministry. Jesus has six instead of the Bibles three years of ministry. His life ended by crucifixion, the cross being unnecessary since: “ The Father in Paradise did not decree, demand, or require the death of his Son. All of this was man's doing; not God's” (p. 2002).

It is these two points the attack is focused on Person and the work of Christ. The New Testament affirms is essential to salvation without it there is no Christianity. The source of the book is well aware of Bibles teaching and does not stop to distort or belittle it. They teach Adam and Eve did not “fall into sin,” that people today do not suffer from original sin, and do not need to be redeemed by the blood of Christ.

The substitutionary atonement are viewed in the revelation of the Urantia book as grotesque invented by primitive men.

“Primitive man believed that something special must be done to win the favor of the gods; only advanced civilization recognizes a consistently even-tempered and benevolent God” (p.974)

“Appeasing an angry God,” “ through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood,” is barbarous and a primitive, religion “ unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth.” “Jesus did not come to Urantia to placate a God of wrath, nor to offer himself as a ransom by dying on the cross. The cross was wholly man's doing, not God's requirement- (Basic concepts, P. 3). This is the same concept promoted by Benjamen Crème a New Ager who thinks of the Christian religion as worthless having a blood sacrifice. The Bible teaches that the blood of Christ, shed on the cross, is God’s only means to be made right and receive forgiveness from God. (Romans 5:9, Ephesians 1:7, Hebrews 9:22.)

“The bestowal of a Paradise Son on your world was inherent in the situation of closing a planetary age; it was inescapable, and it was not made necessary for the purpose of winning the favor of God.” “This teaching that his fatherly heart in all its austere coldness and hardness was so untouched by the misfortunes and sorrows of his creatures that his tender mercies were not forthcoming until he saw his blameless Son bleeding and dying upon the cross of Calvary! (p. 60.5)

They misrepresent the Bible as they teach “The Hebrews believed that “without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin.” They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices.”

The Hebrews never sacrificed humans but animals and it was given as an order from God to show the significance of what sin does. Speaking of Moses Heb. 11:28 “By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood.” The sacrifices were not pagan at all but a command from God from the time Of Adam when had slain the first animal.(Gen.3:24; 4:2-7)

“Upon the death of Moses his lofty concept of Yahweh rapidly deteriorated. Joshua and the leaders of Israel continued to harbor the Mosaic traditions of the all-wise, beneficent, and almighty God, but the common people rapidly reverted to the older desert idea of Yahweh. And this backward drift of the concept of Deity continued increasingly under the successive rule of the various tribal sheiks, the so-called Judges.”(p.1059:2,96:61)

The whole Christian religion is repudiated in one sentence: “The cardinal religious ideas of - inspiration, revelation, propitiation, repentance, atonement, intercession, sacrifice, prayer, confession, worship, survival after death, sacrament, ritual, ransom, salvation, redemption, covenant, uncleaness, Purification, prophesy, original sin they all go back to the early times of primordial ghost fear.” (p.1005) The bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is denied. “His material or physical body was not part of the resurrected personality. . . the body of flesh m which he lived . . . was still lying there in the sepulchre.” p. 2021, 2023, 2024 - 1313. )



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:44:26 pm
The underlying message

Their goal and message is to unify all religions and have them abandon their particular teachings for another spiritual unity. “We believe in every church and in all forms of worship,” (URANTIA Brotherhood Bulletin, Vol. 6, No. 1, p. 4). With this attitude in mind, and in their own peculiar way, they hope to unite “...all world religions and all world religionists,” (Bulletin, Supplement, p. 1). All world religions “are of value in that they are valid approaches to the religion of Jesus.”(p. 67) This of course relegates the Bibles revelation to no more or less than any other book which they claim is corrupted. They claim to welcome Christians into their membership but it is only to unite with others, “The teachers of the religion of Jesus should approach other religions with the recognition of the truths which are held in common (many of which come directly or indirectly, from Jesus' message) while they refrain from placing so much emphasis on the differences.” (p.1670-71) In fact the spirituality that is promoted has the same goals as Bahai, unity of all religions. “The Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men” (p. 1085)

They challenge of the Bibles claim we are sinners “Ancient man only attained consciousness of favor with God through sacrifice. Modern man must develop new techniques of achieving the self-consciousness of salvation. The consciousness of sin persists in the mortal mind, but the thought patterns of salvation therefrom have become outworn and antiquated.” “The sense or feeling of guilt is the consciousness of the violation of the mores; it is not necessarily sin. There is no real sin in the absence of conscious disloyalty to Deity.” The bible says that we sin when we transgress the standard of God, his commands knowingly or not. That it is inherent in our nature. The Urantia Book challenges this. “But confession -- sincere recognition of the nature of sin -- is essential to religious growth and spiritual progress.”

“The forgiveness of sin by Deity is the renewal of loyalty relations following a period of the human consciousness of the lapse of such relations as the consequence of conscious rebellion. The forgiveness does not have to be sought, only received as the consciousness of re-establishment of loyalty relations between the creature and the Creator.” (p.985:1) 89:10.6 Could anyone who is not in further education understand this? In this way much of what is said seems heavy

“Many races have conceived of their leaders as being born of virgins… their return is always expected by their respective groups. In central Asia the tribesmen still look for the return of Genghis Khan; in Tibet, China, and India it is Buddha; in Islam it is Mohammed; among the Amerinds it was Hesunanin Onamonalonton; with the Hebrews it was, in general, Adam's return as a material ruler. …Following the appearance of Adam on earth, so-called sons of God were common among the world races.” (p.1008:5,92:5.3 )

There is no such tradition I have ever heard of where Adam would reappear.

The book lures people into believing that it is revealing secret knowledge for the initiative of this gnosis “The secrets of Sonarington include the secret of the incarnation of the divine Sons. When a Son of God becomes a Son of Man, is literally born of woman, as occurred on your world nineteen hundred years ago, it is a universal mystery. It is occurring right along throughout the universes, and it is a Sonarington secret of divine sonship. The Adjusters are a mystery of God the Father. The incarnation of the divine Sons is a mystery of God the Son; it is a secret locked up in the seventh sector of Sonarington, a realm penetrated by none save those who have personally passed through this unique experience.”(p.145) They teach this act of virgin birth is repeated in the universe in many different times. Again it attacks the unique Son of God.

The Bibles message of Jesus as the unique Son of God is challenged, as are the authors.

The Gospel of John “ John did not write it, he did inspire it.”(p.1342:5, 121:8.10)[In the year A.D. 101 he encouraged his associate, Nathan, a Greek Jew from Caesarea, to begin the writing.] This goes against the Scripture where it says they did, making them a liar.

John 20:31 “but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.”

John speaking of himself says in John 21:24 “This is the disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his testimony is true.”

All things considered one has to deal with the clear words written from John Himself.

I Jn 1:1-4 “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us--that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.”

I Jn 2:7 “Brethren, I write no new commandment to you,

 

I Jn 2:21 “I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.” One must make a choice if what the Urantia book says is true or the Bible is true

I Jn 2:26These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.” These words of John need to be heeded by those who believe the Urantias books message.

I Jn 5:13 “These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

John is told by Jesus personally in Rev 1:19 “Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this”

Paul writes in Gal 6:11 “See with what large letters I have written to you with my own hand!”



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:44:53 pm
Some other challenges of the Bibles record

The seraphim of Urantia, … did sing anthems of glory over the Bethlehem manger, but these utterances of praise were not heard by human ears. No shepherds nor any other mortal creatures came to pay homage to the babe of Bethlehem until the day of the arrival of certain priests from Ur, who were sent down from Jerusalem by Zacharias.”(1352:1,122:8.5)

This goes against the Scriptures teaching that the shepherds did hear the angels in the field and consequently visited the babe in the manger. Zacharias who was John the baptizers father certainly did not have contact with UR.

The Bible has this to say--Luke 2:13-146 “And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, goodwill toward men!” So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.” And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger.

The challenge of the Scripture is consistently seen throughout this book.

“Jesus led men to feel at home in the world; 'he delivered theirs from the slavery of taboo and taught there that the world was not fundamentally evil. He did not long `to escape from his `earthly life; he mastered a technique of acceptably doing the Father's will while in the flesh. He attained an idealistic religious life in the Very midst of a realistic world: Jesus did not share Paul's pessimistic view of humankind. The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificient and eternal future' for those who chose survival.”(196:2.11)

Jesus did indeed see the world as fallen, sinful, wicked John 1:4-5 “In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

John 8:12Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." John 12:46 “I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.”

Jesus told his disciples to be in the world but not of it. That they were passing through to be with him later on and not to love the world. “Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him”( I Jn. 2:15)

John 15:19”If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

John 17:15-16 “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. “They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.”



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:45:19 pm
Other Bible distortions

Jesus adopted the term “Son of Man” at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch (p. 1390).

During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on Earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by two natives from India (p. 1427). This implies as other books that he may have been familiar with the eastern concept of reincarnation and other teachings and that he did not teach Judaism.

In regards to Paul's (“pessimistic view of humankind”) doctrine regarding atonement which meant that we are sinners in need of forgiveness through the cross they say “ unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice. . .” (p. 984).

Heb.9:22 “And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission. Rom 5:9 “having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.”



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:45:51 pm
Human Potentiality as God

“The adventure of divinity attainment lies before you! The race for perfection is on! Whosoever will may enter, and certain victory will crown the efforts of every human being who will run the race of faith and trust, depending every step of the way on the leading of the indwelling Adjuster and on the guidance of the good spirit of the Universal Son, which so freely has been poured out upon all flesh.” [The Urantia Book, 365.4] This is not the faith delivered to the saints by the bible but then they do not take this position. As we can see they use biblical terms and phrases to make it a competitor for the truth.

“John asked Jesus, `Master, what is the kingdom of heaven?' And Jesus answered: `The kingdom of heaven consists in these three essentials: first, recognition of the fact of the sovereignty of God; second, belief in the truth of sonship with God; and third, faith in the effectiveness of the supreme human desire to do the will of God-to be like God. And this is the good news of the gospel: that by faith every mortal may- have all these essentials of salvation.”' (pp. 1585-86)

“ the living spirit relationship of all things and all beings as they are co-ordinated in the eternal ascent Godward.” This teaching according to the bible is the very same that had Lucifer rebel, wanting to be like God, a dream throughout all ages for mankind.(p.646:4,56:10.3)

“God...who dwells, by his spirit, in every sincere human soul”(p. 1453.)

“God is our Father because part of his divine spirit dwells within each one of US.”

“There dwells within you a fragment of the Universal Father, and you are thus directly related to the divine Father and all the Sons of God,” (p. 448). This is pantheism and is the pagan belief that they so readily reject in the book. Having a fragment of God's spirit dwells within each person is called a Thought Adjuster. That is to guide the individual towards greater spiritual understanding through many lives as they evolve on other worlds.

“To finite man truth, beauty, and goodness embrace the full revelation of divinity reality. As this love-comprehension of Deity finds spiritual expression in the lives of God-knowing mortals, there are yielded the fruits of divinity: intellectual peace, social progress, moral satisfaction, spiritual joy, and cosmic wisdom. The advanced mortals on a world in the seventh stage of light and life have learned that love is the greatest thing in the universe -- and they know that God is love.”(p.648:3,56:10.20)God is love is right out of the bible. Love is not the greatest thing in the universe, God is.

The human potential according to Urantia revelations: “The supreme beauty, the height of finite art, is the drama of the unification of the vastness of the cosmic extremes of Creator and creature. Man finding God and God finding man -- the creature becoming perfect as is the Creator -- that is the supernal achievement of the supremely beautiful, the attainment of the apex of cosmic art.”

God created some of these beings in an exalted state, while others he created in the lowest possible stage of existence, from which they evolved to the human stage, which is “evolved to the point when- it can be indwelt by a spark of eternal divinity “ (Basic Concepts, p. 2) Urantia Theology resembles the Hindu concept of transmigration where the soul is seen to pass from the lowest stages to humanity, then to godhood, it is the spiritual evolution of the New Age. After this life we pass on through millions of other spheres of training. The next one is the mansion worlds of Satania. All this life experience of both ascenders (mortals) and descenders is gradually bring synthesized and coordinated into an evolving, universal consciousness. a growing oversoul of all creation. Eventually to be personalized as the Supreme Bring.” (Basic Concepts)

In other words, as humanity- evolves, the first person of the Ultimate Trinity is actualized. Attaining the presence of the Universal Father and helping to actualize the Ultimate Trinity is the goal and the end of a person's spiritual journey. Hr/she has completed “the age-long process from animal to angel and from angel to spirit anti from spirit to God” (p.558 Basic Concepts). The early form of Gnosticism posited that a system of spirit beings emanate from God and exert authority over people's lives. Paul referred to those spirit brings as “powers and authorities” (Col. 1:16; 2:15)

“The only creation that is perfectly settled is Havona, the central universe, which was made directly by the thought of the Universal Father and the word of the Eternal Son. Havona is an existential, perfect, and replete universe, surrounding the home of the eternal Deities, the center of all things. The creations of the seven superuniverses are finite, evolutionary, and consistently progressive.” (p.360:3, 32:3.1)

PAPER 96 YAHWEH-GOD OF THE HEBREWS in conceiving of Deity, man first includes all gods, then subordinates all foreign gods to his tribal deity, and finally excludes all but the one God of final and supreme value. The Jews synthesized all gods into their more sublime concept of the Lord God of Israel.” The bible teaches the very opposite, that man began with the correct knowledge and left it for multiple gods(polytheism). (p.1052)

DIVININGTON. This world is, in a unique sense, the “bosom of the Father,” the personal-communion sphere of the Universal Father, and thereon is a special manifestation of his divinity. Divinington is the Paradise rendezvous of the Thought Adjusters, Many personalities besides the Eternal Son are of direct origin by the solitary acts of the Universal Father. Only the Father fragments and those personalities and other beings of direct and exclusive origin in the Universal Father fraternize and function on this abode.

Thought Adjusters are of the very essence and nature of God they are the “undiluted . . . parts of Deity” who guide humans on the path of spiritual progress through countless lifetimes on other planets, The Thought Adjusters are the bestowed spirit of the Universal Father. That indwelling spirit or fragment of God is called a Thought Adjuster. They are not created but proceed directly from the Father. Contact with the lowly creatures of the evolutionary worlds is a secret of this Paradise sphere.” “The Adjuster's would be if such a voice could be heard. Conscience.”

SONARINGTON. This sphere is the “bosom of the Son,” the personal receiving world of the Eternal Son. It is the Paradise headquarters of the descending and ascending Sons of God when, and after, they are fully accredited and finally approved. This world is the Paradise home for all Sons of the Eternal Son and of his co-ordinate and associate Sons.(p.145) This sounds like a spiritual school venture a classroom in space.

We need to ask how would God speak to humanity if he wanted to communicate with the average person on earth. Would it be beyond our means of understanding like the Urantia book is written or like the Bible is written.

The Urantia book is nothing less than new age gnostic enlightenment with a space age twist. It attracts the pride of man. It is deceptive in its approach by claiming to correct all religious books, as well as challenging God as the author and keeper of His truth found in the Bible. Paul preached the gospel “not with the wisdom of words, lest the cross be made of no effect.” (1Cor. 1:17) “The world through Wisdom did not come to know God.” (V.21) The Urantia’s revelation proposes in the place of the Bibles revelation extra-Biblical and contradictory information, opposing the core doctrines of Christianity.

Galatians 1:8, “but even though we, or an angel from heaven, would preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” This book and its authors are cursed according to the Bible. And those who follow its teachings are according to the apostle Paul. The real issue comes down to authority. One trusting a book whose authors are unknown who claim superior knowledge of past events changing the people and places to be what they want. Or do we trust the eyewitnesses and the authors of the accounts of Jesus with its accurate history kept by the Holy Spirit of God. Is it any wonder the Urantia book calls them holy spirit adjusters, since this other spirit wants to revision everything God has said. Reliability of Scripture is denied and challenged. (P. 838)

We know who was the challenger of the word God spoke in the beginning, the same one who has challenged God in this book. Time has not changed his ways.

Since the Urantia book presents a Jesus that is not the same as the Bible, it cannot be God inspired nor accurate on what it adds to the Bible.

 

 

Sources used: The Urantia Book and Basic Concepts of the Urantia Book; the Urantia Foundation's website is at: www.urantia.org   “The Urantia Book,” 1979, Christian Research Institute Inc., Elliot Miller, “S.P.C. Newsletter,” vol. 7, no. 3, 8/81. The Encyclopedia of American Religions, Vol. 2, J. Gordon Melton, p. 590.

 

 
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Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:47:27 pm
Urantia Brotherhood
The year 1989 saw an end to the URANTIA Brotherhood and a beginning for the Fifth Epochal Fellowship. In a letter dated 9 November 1989 all members of the Brotherhood were notified that a shake-up at headquarters had taken place and things, including the name, had changed. While the group has a new name, its doctrines and purposes remain as they were "originally established," (p. 3).

Of all the cultic systems in all the world, none is more intricate than that of URANTIA! This organization has Orders of Trinity Beings, Supreme Beings, Ascending Beings, Sons of God, Universe Power Directors, Michael class (a very important group) and nearly ad infinitum. Within each Order there may be anywhere from a few thousand to many million beings (The URANTIA Book, pp. 330-344). Various sections of this 2,097 page book were sent to earth by the "Orvonton administrators" (p. 354), and the "...Nebadon commission of twelve acting under the direction of Mantutia Melchizedek," (p. 1319).

The doctrines are nearly as hard to understand as the source from whence they came. As with many groups which do not appreciate the thought of Jesus being the Only Begotten Son of God, URANTIA has an interesting solution to this problem. They teach, prior to His Earthly life, Jesus' real name was Michael of Nebadon. They state, "Our Creator Son (another Order of beings) is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.

"The Michael of Nebadon is the `only-begotten Son' personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity," (Ibid, p.366; parenthesis added). In other words, Jesus (Michael) is the Son of the Son of God and the Father in the sense that when these two beings had a simultaneous original thought for the 611,121st time, Jesus (Michael) was begotten.

The Brotherhood does have a similarity to other groups in that they teach, "There dwells within you a fragment of the Universal Father, and you are thus directly related to the divine Father and all the Sons of God," (Ibid, p. 448). However, unlike many other cults which teach they are the only true church, the URANTIA teach, "We believe in every church and in all forms of worship," (URANTIA Brotherhood Bulletin, Vol. 6, No. 1, p. 4). With this attitude in mind, and in their own peculiar way, they hope to unite "...all world religions and all world religionists," (Bulletin, Supplement, p. 1).
 
 

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Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 18, 2008, 08:51:49 pm
History, Doctrine and a Biblical Response to the URANTIA BookBy Jason Barker
Founder: William S. Sadler.
Date: 1924.
Official Publications: The URANTIA Foundation holds the copyright on The URANTIA Book, and publishes the periodicals Newsflash and Urantian News. The URANTIA Book Fellowship publishes The Fellowship Herald Magazine and Mighty Messenger Newsletter. The Boulder School publishes The Invisible Fellowship Magazine.
Structure: Parent organization is the URANTIA Foundation. Break-offs from the Foundation include the URANTIA Book Fellowship and the Boulder Fellowship/Jesusonian Foundation.
Unique Terms: URANTIA, epochal revelation, revelators, Thought Adjuster, Isle of Paradise, morontia.

HISTORY
Dr. William Sadler a Seventh-day Adventist minister and associate of Ellen G. White, married Lena Celestia Kellogg (niece of cereal company founder, alternative medicine practitioner, and former Seventh-day Adventist J.H. Kellogg) in 1897.1 The Sadlers became increasingly disenchanted with the Seventh-day Adventists after critiquing White's testimonials and visions, culminating in William Sadler writing a letter to White in which he challenged her teachings.2
After receiving his M.D. from Adventist American Medical Missionary College, Sadler worked from 1907-1915 as a popular orator on medicine on the Chautauqua circuit.3 In 1911, Sadler had his first session with the "sleeping subject" described in his book, The Mind at Mischief; this "sleeping subject" is believed by many to be a description of the process through which the fifth epochal revelation was received.4 Sadler (along with a stenographer) transcribed the statements of the "sleeping subject" during their 209 sessions that occurred over eighteen years. According to Sadler,

The communications which have been written, or which we have had the opportunity to hear spoken, are made by a vast order of alleged beings who claim to come from other planets to visit this world, to stop here as student visitors for study and observation when they are en route from one universe to another or from one planet to another.5
These sessions became particularly important in 24, when the celestial being Machiventa Melchizedek announced that this method of communication between the celestial group of revelators from the Melchizedek schools and the to-be-formed human Contact Commission would continue to be used.6 The Contact Commission consisted of Dr. William S. Sadler, Dr. Lena Sadler, William S. Sadler, Jr., Anna Kellogg (sister of Lena), and Wilfred Kellogg.7
Sadler described the process of receiving and compiling the revelations in this way: the revelators, would leave a set of handwritten papers in a predetermined place. The Contact Commission would read the papers to "The Forum," a group of humans formed to study the papers, who would then draft questions based on the revelations. The revelators then drafted a second series of papers in response to these questions.

The process by which the papers were transcribed by the Contact Commission is highly unique. According to Meredith Sprunger, former president of the URANTIA Brotherhood,

Whenever the original papers were copied, the originals always disappeared. Ten dollar bills were placed between the sheets and they found the original papers would disappear but the bills would remain in the locked safe [The Contact Commission] discovered that after some papers were read and placed in the safe, they disappeared. Other papers were altered after being read to the Forum. The assumption is that they were required to read these papers to the Forum so that these spirit beings could observe human reaction to the material presented.9
Interestingly, while Sadler was later willing to discuss in detail the transmission of The URANTIA Book, he refused to reveal two crucial facts: 1) the name of the individual who was used by the revelators as the channel between the revelators and the Contact Commission, and 2) the specific way in which the papers that formed The URANTIA Book appeared.10
The first 118 papers of The URANTIA Book were completed in 1934; Part IV - the "Jesus Papers" - was completed in 1935.11 In 1939 a group of seventy volunteers, known as "the Seventy," began studying the URANTIA papers; their study was led by the revelators until the publication of The URANTIA Book in 1955, at which point the revelators discontinued their contact with the message "You are on your own now."12

The formation of the URANTIA Foundation, the central group affiliated with The URANTIA Books and the copyright holders of the publication, preceded the publication of the book by five years. Determined to avoid creating a church based upon The URANTIA Book, the Foundation instead created in 1955 a "fraternal organization" for URANTIA readers called the URANTIA Brotherhood.13

Dissemination of The URANTIA Book was rapid. 4,291 copies had been distributed by 1960, over 100,000 copies by 1980, and by 1996 over 30,000 copies were being distributed each year.14  The 1970s marked a period of remarkable growth for URANTIA. Several readers began reading excerpts from The URANTIA Book on southern California radio stations, and in 1972 the University of California, Bakersfield, offered the course, "An Introduction to The URANTIA Book."15 The URANTIA Foundation also successfully cornered the market on The URANTIA Book, copyrighting the words "URANTIA" in 1972 and "URANTIAN" in 1973, and signing confirmatory and licensing agreements in 1974.16

Despite URANTIA's success, this period of growth was also the beginning of schism within the movement. The URANTIA Foundation sued member Bob Burton in 1975 for giving URANTIA materials to all the members of Congress, and in 1976 pressured the URANTIA Brotherhood to sell their rights to URANTIA to the Foundation for one dollar.17 The schism reached its climax in 1990 when the URANTIA Foundation disenfranchised the URANTIA Brotherhood, sending a massive Special Report in April, 1990 to URANTIA readers explaining that the Foundation was forming a "new URANTIA Brotherhood Association -- one that will make the new Association less easily politicized and more likely to concentrate on its spiritual mission."18

The current situation within URANTIA circles is strained but improving. The URANTIA Foundation lost its copyright to The URANTIA Book in 1995; the book is now in the public domain. A threatened lawsuit by the Foundation against the URANTIA Brotherhood and the Jesusonian Foundation [a Boulder, Colorado-based URANTIA organization] was dropped in 1996. Finally, in 1997, the URANTIA Foundation and the URANTIA Brotherhood agreed to jointly engage in translation of The URANTIA Book into foreign languages.19

DOCTRINE
Cosmology: The cosmos are roughly divided into five concentric rings. The center ring is the Isle of Paradise, the dwelling place of God20 and the source of all existing things; the Master Universe revolves around this stationary Isle.21 Surrounding the Isle of Paradise in seven bands are the Havona, billions of perfect worlds that serve as the pattern for creation.22 Surrounding the Havona are dark gravity belts which insulate the Havona and Isle of Paradise from the developing superuniverses. Outside the gravity belts are the seven superuniverses of evolutionary creation; our superuniverse is approximately 500 million light-years in diameter.23 Beyond the superuniverses are four uninhabited outer space levels; some celestial beings speculate that an unrevealed creation may begin outside the fourth outer space level.24
The Trinity: The URANTIA Book speaks of a Trinity of Trinities; the most important is the existential Paradise Trinity consisting of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. The second Trinity, currently in the process of universe realization to become gods, is the experiential Ultimate Trinity; it will consist of the Supreme Being, the Supreme Creator Personalities, and the Architects of the Master Universe. The third Trinity, currently in the process of actualization, is the experiential Absolute Trinity: it will consist of God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and the "unrevealed Consummator of Universe Destiny."25

God the Father: The URANTIA Book teaches, "The Universal Father is the God of all creation, the First Source and the Center of all things and beings. First think of God as a creator, then as a controller, and lastly as an infinite upholder."26 The Universal Father is a personal being who should be understood as the father of humanity: "as a father, a real father, a true father, loves his children, so the Universal Father loves and forever seeks the welfare of his created sons and daughters."27 The ultimate aspiration of humans is to know and be like the Universal Father.

Jesus Christ: The Eternal Son, along with the Universal Father, created all the "only-begotten" Creator Sons who, as part of the Order of Michael, are responsible for the creation of humanity.28 Before incarnating on this planet as Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus was Michael of Nebadon, the 611,121st original concept of the Paradise Father and Son.29 Despite being the "original concept," Jesus was not the Eternal Son, but rather he possessed "additional power and authority, for he not only personifies the Eternal Son but also fully represents and actually embodies the personality presence of the Universal Father."30

Part IV of The URANTIA Book ostensibly covers, in addition to its elaboration of the gospel accounts, a record of the "lost years" of Jesus' life. Papers 123-28 go year-by-year through Jesus' childhood, even examining the events of each day he spent in the Temple at the age of twelve.31 It also explains that Jesus went to Rome as the tutor to the sons of a wealthy merchant from India.32

The URANTIA Book also fills in details about the resurrection. After the crucifixion, Jesus underwent "the Morontia Transit," in which the resurrected morontia form and personality of Jesus [i.e., the spirit of Jesus without the physical body] went forth from the tomb and met with Gabriel and other celestial administrators.33 His initiation into the morontia world [the next level of existence] normally takes about an hour, but was twice interrupted because Jesus wanted to explain to his followers what was happening.34
Sin and Atonement: An understanding of what The URANTIA Book teaches about sin is vital to understanding what it teaches about Christ and the Atonement.

According to the Jesus of The URANTIA Book, "Evil is the immature choosing and the thinking misstep of those who are resistant to goodness, rejectful of beauty, and disloyal to truth. Evil is that which is dark and untrue, and which, when consciously embraced and willfully endorsed, becomes sin."35 A person can overcome evil simply by choosing to do good: "There is mighty power in the expulsive energy of a new and sincere spiritual affection. And again I say to you, be not overcome by evil but rather overcome evil with good."36

Because avoiding sin is simply a matter of choice, the crucifixion did not accomplish the forgiveness of sin.37 Instead, humans must work to emulate the example of love and faith in God shown by Jesus. This striving for perfection is worked out over many lifetimes on many planets. A URANTIA follower states that "the entire stellar itinerary of our inconceivably long evolutionary journey toward spirit status [includes] graduate courses on the billion worlds of Havona. . .such is the long, alluring path to Paradise."38

BIBLICAL RESPONSE
Humans are not to accept a new gospel from spirit beings,39 but instead should rely on the Bible as the authoritative source of truth.40
Jesus is not merely an example of God, but rather is the one in whom the Godhead fully dwells.41

Humans will not be reincarnated many times, but instead live only once before facing judgment from God.42 Furthermore, salvation does not come through anything that humans can do, but instead is given only through the unmerited grace of God.43



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1 David Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation: An Historical Timeline of the URANTIA Movement, [Online]. URL http://www.ubfellowship.org/archive/history/h_timlin.htm.
2 Ibid.
3 Ibid.
4 William Sadler, The Mind at Mischief, edited by Mark Turin, n.p.: n.p., 1929 [Online]. URL http://www.ubfellowship.org/archive/history/m_at_m.htm.
5 Ibid.
6 Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, URL http://www.ubfellowship.org/archive/history/h_timlin.htm. c.f. The URANTIA Book 35:3:15.
7 Ibid.
8 Ibid.
9 Ibid.
10 Meredith J. Sprunger, The Origin of The URANTIA Book, Boulder, Co: The Jesusonian Foundation, 1981, 3.
11 Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, URL http://www.ubfellowship.org/archive/history/h_timlin.htm.
12 Ibid.
13 William Sadler, A History of the URANTIA Movement, Chicago, Il: n.p., 1960 [Online]. URL http://www.ubfellowship.org/archive/history/histumov.htm.
14 Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, URL http://www.ubfellowship.org/archive/history/h_timlin.htm.
15 Ibid.
16 Ibid.
17 Ibid.
18 Trustees of the URANTIA Foundation, letter to readers of The URANTIA Book, 16 April 1990.
19 Patricia Mundelius and Janet Farrington Graham, letter to readers of The URANTIA Book, 10 October 1997.
20 Ruth Burton, Basic Concepts of The URANTIA Book, Chicago, Il: The URANTIA Brotherhood, n.d., 1.
21 A Guided Tour of The URANTIA Book, Boulder, Co: The Invisible Fellowship Magazine, 1994, 7.
22 Ibid.
23 Ibid.
24 Ibid.
25 The URANTIA Book, Foreword, 16.
26 Ibid., 21:1.
27 Ibid., 40:1.
28 Dean Halverson, "Urantia.the Brotherhood, the Book," SCP Newsletter 7.3 (1981), 3.
29 The URANTIA Book, 33:1.
30 Ibid.
31 Ibid., 125:3-6.
32 Ibid., 129-133.
33 Ibid., 189:1.
34 Ibid.
35 Ibid., 130:1.
36 Ibid., 156:5.
37 Ibid., 188:4.
38 Burton, Basic Concepts of The URANTIA Book, 2.
39 Galatians 1:8.
40 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Acts 17:11.
41 Colossians 2:9.
42 Hebrews 9:27.
43 Romans 3:28.


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Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 19, 2008, 12:37:57 am
Some more of the same stuff that cannot be substantiated as it is only words and no evidence.

Continuing in the Dalamatia City project.
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,7222.msg65926.html#msg65926 (http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,7222.msg65926.html#msg65926)

After we verify Dalamatia City and the Seven commands

Then we can go to 1stEden and and scan and verify the manmade anomalies on top and at the base of the Acropolis Hill and verify the 3 co planar circles on top of the hill.

If we verify the 3 co planar circles on the Acropolis Hill then we can match the 1st and 2nd temples of the Father by the 3 co planar symbols.

TRUTH and SYMBOL that become one!

That would be the match.

Why, we have already verified the stone wall in 1stEden stated in the Urantia Book.

(http://www.sevenfoldbooks.com/EdenGates/1stEde1.jpg)

Then after that we go to Iran and connect the 3 co planar circles in North Eastern Iran the home of the Adamson/Van headquarters.

Continuing on with the proposal for the real truth of everything beyond one book.

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,7220.msg65928.html#msg65928 (http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,7220.msg65928.html#msg65928)

Sevens



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 20, 2008, 05:24:43 am
An apology from me

Sevens

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Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 23, 2008, 03:53:47 am
A dissemination of Rodan of Alexandria 2000 years ago and relevant for today.  Have we progressed really in light of this opinion from Rodan 2000 years ago, something for us to consider within ourselves in what we do each day and to others?? in there own distortions.

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5. THE RELIGION OF THE IDEAL

You have told me that your Master regards genuine human religion as the individual's experience with spiritual realities. I have regarded religion as man's experience of reacting to something which he regards as being worthy of the homage and devotion of all mankind. In this sense, religion symbolizes our supreme devotion to that which represents our highest concept of the ideals of reality and the farthest reach of our minds toward eternal possibilities of spiritual attainment.

When men react to religion in the tribal, national, or racial sense, it is because they look upon those without their group as not being truly human. We always look upon the object of our religious loyalty as being worthy of the reverence of all men. Religion can never be a matter of mere intellectual belief or philosophic reasoning; religion is always and forever a mode of reacting to the situations of life; it is a species of conduct. Religion embraces thinking, feeling, and acting reverently toward some reality which we deem worthy of universal adoration.

If something has become a religion in your experience, it is self-evident that you already have become an active evangel of that religion since you deem the supreme concept of your religion as being worthy of the worship of all mankind, all universe intelligences. If you are not a positive and missionary evangel of your religion, you are self-deceived in that what you call a religion is only a traditional belief or a mere system of intellectual philosophy. If your religion is a spiritual experience, your object of worship must be the universal spirit reality and ideal of all your spiritualized concepts. All religions based on fear, emotion, tradition, and philosophy I term the intellectual religions, while those based on true spirit experience I would term the true religions. The object of religious devotion may be material or spiritual, true or false, real or unreal, human or divine. Religions can therefore be either good or evil.

Morality and religion are not necessarily the same. A system of morals, by grasping an object of worship, may become a religion. A religion, by losing its universal appeal to loyalty and supreme devotion, may evolve into a system of philosophy or a code of morals. This thing, being, state, or order of existence, or possibility of attainment which constitutes the supreme ideal of religious
Page 1781 loyalty, and which is the recipient of the religious devotion of those who worship, is God. Regardless of the name applied to this ideal of spirit reality, it is God.

The social characteristics of a true religion consist in the fact that it invariably seeks to convert the individual and to transform the world. Religion implies the existence of undiscovered ideals which far transcend the known standards of ethics and morality embodied in even the highest social usages of the most mature institutions of civilization. Religion reaches out for undiscovered ideals, unexplored realities, superhuman values, divine wisdom, and true spirit attainment. True religion does all of this; all other beliefs are not worthy of the name. You cannot have a genuine spiritual religion without the supreme and supernal ideal of an eternal God. A religion without this God is an invention of man, a human institution of lifeless intellectual beliefs and meaningless emotional ceremonies. A religion might claim as the object of its devotion a great ideal. But such ideals of unreality are not attainable; such a concept is illusionary. The only ideals susceptible of human attainment are the divine realities of the infinite values resident in the spiritual fact of the eternal God.

The word God, the idea of God as contrasted with the ideal of God, can become a part of any religion, no matter how puerile or false that religion may chance to be. And this idea of God can become anything which those who entertain it may choose to make it. The lower religions shape their ideas of God to meet the natural state of the human heart; the higher religions demand that the human heart shall be changed to meet the demands of the ideals of true religion.

The religion of Jesus transcends all our former concepts of the idea of worship in that he not only portrays his Father as the ideal of infinite reality but positively declares that this divine source of values and the eternal center of the universe is truly and personally attainable by every mortal creature who chooses to enter the kingdom of heaven on earth, thereby acknowledging the acceptance of sonship with God and brotherhood with man.

That, I submit, is the highest concept of religion the world has ever known, and I pronounce that there can never be a higher since this gospel embraces the infinity of realities, the divinity of values, and the eternity of universal attainments. Such a concept constitutes the achievement of the experience of the idealism of the supreme and the ultimate.

I am not only intrigued by the consummate ideals of this religion of your Master, but I am mightily moved to profess my belief in his announcement that these ideals of spirit realities are attainable; that you and I can enter upon this long and eternal adventure with his assurance of the certainty of our ultimate arrival at the portals of Paradise. My brethren, I am a believer, I have embarked; I am on my way with you in this eternal venture. The Master says he came from the Father, and that he will show us the way. I am fully persuaded he speaks the truth. I am finally convinced that there are no attainable ideals of reality or values of perfection apart from the eternal and Universal Father.

I come, then, to worship, not merely the God of existences, but the God of the possibility of all future existences. Therefore must your devotion to a supreme ideal, if that ideal is real, be devotion to this God of past, present, and future universes of things and beings. And there is no other God, for there cannot possibly be any other God. All other gods are figments of the imagination, illusions of mortal mind, distortions of false logic, and the self-deceptive idols of those who create them. Yes, you can have a religion without this God, but it
Page 1782 does not mean anything.

And if you seek to substitute the word God for the reality of this ideal of the living God, you have only deluded yourself by putting an idea in the place of an ideal, a divine reality. Such beliefs are merely religions of wishful fancy.

I see in the teachings of Jesus, religion at its best. This gospel enables us to seek for the true God and to find him. But are we willing to pay the price of this entrance into the kingdom of heaven? Are we willing to be born again? to be remade? Are we willing to be subject to this terrible and testing process of self-destruction and soul reconstruction?

Has not the Master said: "Whoso would save his life must lose it. Think not that I have come to bring peace but rather a soul struggle"? True, after we pay the price of dedication to the Father's will, we do experience great peace provided we continue to walk in these spiritual paths of consecrated living.

Now are we truly forsaking the lures of the known order of existence while we unreservedly dedicate our quest to the lures of the unknown and unexplored order of the existence of a future life of adventure in the spirit worlds of the higher idealism of divine reality. And we seek for those symbols of meaning wherewith to convey to our fellow men these concepts of the reality of the idealism of the religion of Jesus, and we will not cease to pray for that day when all mankind shall be thrilled by the communal vision of this supreme truth. Just now, our focalized concept of the Father, as held in our hearts, is that God is spirit; as conveyed to our fellows, that God is love.

The religion of Jesus demands living and spiritual experience. Other religions may consist in traditional beliefs, emotional feelings, philosophic consciousness, and all of that, but the teaching of the Master requires the attainment of actual levels of real spirit progression.

The consciousness of the impulse to be like God is not true religion. The feelings of the emotion to worship God are not true religion. The knowledge of the conviction to forsake self and serve God is not true religion. The wisdom of the reasoning that this religion is the best of all is not religion as a personal and spiritual experience. True religion has reference to destiny and reality of attainment as well as to the reality and idealism of that which is wholeheartedly faith-accepted. And all of this must be made personal to us by the revelation of the Spirit of Truth.

And thus ended the dissertations of the Greek philosopher, one of the greatest of his race, who had become a believer in the gospel of Jesus

The Ub Link (http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper160.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper160.html&line=119#mfs)

Just beautiful!  Praise the Lord!  Yea!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on February 24, 2008, 03:22:51 am
sevens,

Beware false prophets!  Often they will tell you what you want to hear, however only the Bible tells you what you need to know.

The Bible makes it point clear:

"Thou shalt not have any other gods before me."

Persist in this dalliance, and you risk the loss of your immortal soul.  


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 24, 2008, 06:44:20 am
Give it break Calvin

you have not demonstrated and operate out of fear, spreading fear.

That is not the way of Jesus our master and you know that.

The only Gods (in your words) here is the Father, Jesus and the Sevenfold Seraphic mission headed by the Ancient of Days. That is all, there no one else!

The last rebel is defeated! and is ready for adjudication and which means a great breakthrough for mankind.  That means for everyone! not just the few! or the so called chosen.

This is bigger than the reformation, this is the true reformation brought about by the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven and mankind can demonstrate that through research, exploration, discovery of the beginning which is the end and verification.

There is no exclusivity in this major breakthrough for man and this truth will smash the doctrine behind terrorism unlike anything else on the planet.  Through shear enlightenment of the complete truth, all the truth.

I rejoice in that fact!

Lucifer, Satan and Caligastia and others are at the doors of Court for there day in court and there will be no white knight to save them.

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on February 26, 2008, 02:32:23 am
sevens, Calvin has a point!  Aren't you worried of possibly offending God?  The Bible is very specific about adding and subtracting from it's teachings.  It seems to me that we had best play it safe and take the Bible at it's word.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 26, 2008, 04:29:59 am
Hi 12 Apostles

Naah no way!

Thanks for your concern I appreciate it.  Thats kind.

But I have researched this thoroughly for many years and I use all the scriptures in abundance including other books and I am absolutely sure I am right on to it and I know this is where Jesus and the Father wants everyone to go and its related directly to the heritage of the ages of the beginning of everything.

This is related to the discovered places which are the former things as presented in Isaiah, the beginning of the end.

I am not fearful because I am very intimate with the journey for many years.  These are the places where there is unfinished business of the Father and will serve as an expansion for all mankind, in a deeper and wider way with definition.

Its a total journey in faith and it has not stopped.

Thanks for your concern but I am not fearful in this journey and never will be and I have complete trust in the Father of the Kingdom of Heaven and through the guidance of the Sevenfold Seraphic Mission headed by the Ancient of Days. 

I can present the evidence unlike anyone on this planet and its guided by the books of religion and this will give Christianity so much benefit for the future and at the same time it marks the parting of the ways for many to.

I feel this is the presentation of the Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise of research, exploration, discovery and enlightenment.  Far better way than war and violence and we can all learn something that expands and lifts the veil of ignorance.

Essentially it marks the end of the last rebel as he about to go to court, the universal courts.

Thank you.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 26, 2008, 04:28:38 pm
Here are some fragment that I found on another forum and  is completely true in the experience of this journey


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The UB

"The soil essential for religious growth presupposes a progressive life of self-realization, the co-ordination of natural propensities, the exercise of curiosity and the enjoyment of reasonable adventure, the experiencing of feelings of satisfaction, the functioning of the fear stimulus of attention and awareness, the wonder-lure, and a normal consciousness of smallness, humility. Growth is also predicated on the discovery of selfhood accompanied by self-criticism--conscience, for conscience is really the criticism of oneself by one's own value-habits, personal ideals." 1094:07

"The religion of the spirit means effort, struggle, conflict, faith, determination, love, loyalty, and progress." 1729:06

"The progression of religious growth leads from stagnation through conflict to co-ordination, from insecurity to undoubting faith, from confusion of cosmic consciousness to unification of personality, from the temporal objective to the eternal, from the bondage of fear to the liberty of divine sonship." 1098:04-05

"...the religion of the spirit, which entails active participation of mind and soul in the faith adventure of grappling with the rigorous realities of progressive human experience." 1729:03

and

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"4. Soul. The soul of man is an experiential acquirement. As a mortal creature chooses to "do the will of the Father in heaven," so the indwelling spirit becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of this new reality is neither material nor spiritual--it is morontial. This is the emerging and immortal soul which is destined to survive mortal death and begin the Paradise ascension." 8:10

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on March 10, 2008, 11:37:16 pm
Give it break Calvin

you have not demonstrated and operate out of fear, spreading fear.

That is not the way of Jesus our master and you know that.

The only Gods (in your words) here is the Father, Jesus and the Sevenfold Seraphic mission headed by the Ancient of Days. That is all, there no one else!

The last rebel is defeated! and is ready for adjudication and which means a great breakthrough for mankind.  That means for everyone! not just the few! or the so called chosen.

This is bigger than the reformation, this is the true reformation brought about by the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven and mankind can demonstrate that through research, exploration, discovery of the beginning which is the end and verification.

There is no exclusivity in this major breakthrough for man and this truth will smash the doctrine behind terrorism unlike anything else on the planet.  Through shear enlightenment of the complete truth, all the truth.

I rejoice in that fact!

Lucifer, Satan and Caligastia and others are at the doors of Court for there day in court and there will be no white knight to save them.

sevens

sevens, be that as it may, however, the Bible does state clearly that one must neither add to or detract from it's teachings.  By your embrace of the Urantia Book, and your rejection of the God's lessons for man, you do indeed go against His will. 


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 11, 2008, 04:42:15 am
Oh come on Calvin, I'm doing the block upon block and piece upon piece and precept upon precepts process in the journey as explained Isaiah.

There is no way I am going against the Fathers will.  There is no chance as I keep on finding things all the time

Just in the past couple of weeks major breakthroughs have been made confirming the journey.

Its been really good and positive.

At the end of the day it comes down whose interpretation is right.

By the way do you know the logistics and how the Seventh mystery of the churches manifest?  and do you know what the Seventh Mystery is??

Could you show me with your own thoughts!

I recently found some things in the watchtower of long ago which I feel points to this journey and has perplexed there scholars for years.

Do you want to see it?

Anyway Calvin I feel quietly confident of what is going on and i think this research is on track and in synchronization with Jesus and Paradise.

But you will have to prove me wrong by us going out to Submerged Dalamatia City in the Verification.

I think its in the best interest of Church and state to explore this as much may depend on it either way.

I need about 10 million dollars for an expedition and production that would be threefold and perhaps some studio may want to invest in a full feature for the Box Office.

"The Great Test of Religion"  This is where we test things with all on the table.

The World is the witness and all people can judge for themselves.  Movie would be the about the everything that occurs and people can vote online.

As we go through the place in reality connected to the a site.

The Full feature movie would threefold like in the research, How it came about, The books and what was found, The Journey.. Then we go back in time to that period and go through the whole history of Dalamatia City and the Seven commands using CGI and actors.  Then we go to the expedition.

It could be on Cable or TV worldwide and free to air later.  The movie could be all about all those things happening in real time.

Thats my proposal and you can be in the Skeptics side on the Side of traditional religion, thats OK.  Everything has to be tested! and people such as yourself have to be present to witness the event and to make commentary.

So we need at least 10 million dollars for a boat that is enabled to do core samples, R.O.V, rebreather diving equipment and robotic subs with camera and production for the virtual TV event.  The we need more money from a TV operator and a Movie Studio of the movie of the whole journey and Event of Verification.

Now I figure this is something that you could do to get the church to fund this and see what we can find in the truth of the matter.  The real truth of everything and even if you disagree you could help to find the funds to prove yourself.  It can also prove my theory to.  It could go either way.

I also want to get Religious Atheists on board to.  There views are also important and they could be proved wrong.

Anyway that is my proposal to you and any one else who would like to test this.

See this would test the real fiber of the Church and its people and leaders. Lets see how the church responds!  This is the Test of all and there attitude!  Whether they are right or wrong, the attitude lesson.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 11, 2008, 07:07:25 am
I think that is the best idea To go out there.

It could be a 2 week expedition involving the whole world with virtual online access and the moves and what is found in real time a real expedition involving the world with live feeds.

And every aspect presented as we go for different targets with the respective information in the scriptures.

We could put everything on the table, all the scriptures and all the books and extrapolate on the way through the expedition.

For example in the Core sample:

We know that Dalamatia City was above water, then it was submerged where a tidal wave destroyed the city, then over time it reemerged much probably under mud and sand, then it submerged again due to rising sea levels at some other distant time forward.

The core sample should reflect this trend and therefore we can confirm the dates in the UB and the layers should correspond to that.  We could work out the dates accurately.

Now all this could be presented as we go through the motions step by step.

With the R.O.V. we can go to the city with cameras and verify the walls and the temple and perhaps some stone block with possible writing on them.  We could go step by step through books and what they say and verify then and there.  All this in virtual time so the whole world witnesses this.

We could get a sub down there where we could witness all with commentary and witness the walls and temples.

The movie would be an overview of all these events but in a deeper way that is intimate to the journey and goes back in time and to this time of the expedition.

Anyway that would be my idea of the greatest test for mankind and the test of attitude!

With all layout before him.

I am 100% confident this would be the Jesus way in the End times...Revealing, Enlightenment and truth for all mankind before any judgment of the Father!

Violence is not the way and that will be demonstrated!

And yet it could be connected to Rapture as Jesus may visit Iran through this proposal.  It might seem outlandish but Jesus could very well be present on this boat off the coast of Iran.  And that would fulfill what I read in another scripture from another book.

It could be all possible that Jesus is there at the time of verification and may guide the explorers personally through his spirit and himself there in a oneness of the event.

This could mean big change for all people for the world!

Remembering that Jesus was one of us and he is sentimental and curious like us and an explorer and discoverer himself who spent two weeks around the ruins of 2nd Susa and Ur contemplating the future and the ruins and the history of them.  Jesus is interested in archeology is leading us on the path to his places that where made by his sons.

He was a human and I believe if the interpretations are right this could be the greatest thing and the action he would love to be involved in.  No doubt about that, dont you worry about that! because he is our friend and creator/Father and loves to be with his friends in the great quest of his universe!  For sure!!

Alright I say yea!

Honestly, this could be the sign of rapture and if we go there and verify anything is possible there after and even during the moment of discovery.  You know the time maybe revealed at the point of discovery!

You know Calvin, this is possible, quite possible this could be the first horseman.

The best part everyone can contribute in the foreseen and be part of a Paradise Project to the beginning where the end shall take place, the Beginning and the End.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 11, 2008, 07:46:20 pm
From the Urantia Book

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When there exists this living connection between divinity and humanity, if humanity should thoughtlessly and ignorantly pray for selfish ease and vainglorious accomplishments, there could be only one divine answer: more and increased bearing of the fruits of the spirit on the stems of the living branches.

When the branch of the vine is alive, there can be only one answer to all its petitions: increased grape bearing. In fact, the branch exists only for, and can do nothing except, fruit bearing, yielding grapes. So does the true believer exist only for the purpose of bearing the fruits of the spirit: to love man as he himself has been loved by God--that we should love one another, even as Jesus has loved us.

And when the Father's hand of discipline is laid upon the vine, it is done in love, in order that the branches may bear much fruit. And a wise husbandman cuts away only the dead and fruitless branches.

Jesus had great difficulty in leading even his apostles to recognize that prayer is a function of spirit-born believers in the spirit-dominated kingdom.
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper180.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper180.html&line=54#mfs]The UB link (http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper180.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper180.html&line=54#mfs)

and from the same link

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"Many of those who will assail you are ignorant of the light of heaven, but this is not true of some who now persecute us. If we had not taught them the truth, they might do many strange things without falling under condemnation, but now, since they have known the light and presumed to reject it, they have no excuse for their attitude. He who hates me hates my Father. It cannot be otherwise; the light which would save you if accepted can only condemn you if it is knowingly rejected. And what have I done to these men that they should hate me with such a terrible hatred? Nothing, save to offer them fellowship on earth and salvation in heaven. But have you not read in the Scripture the saying: `And they hated me without a cause'?

And the Universe Attitude of the Father

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper4.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper4.html&line=31#mfs

Here is an interesting piece

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He would not so much as cast reflections of insincerity
Page 2000 upon his would-be murderers when they asked if he were "king of the Jews." With but little qualifying explanation he accepted the designation, knowing that, while they had chosen to reject him, he would be the last to afford them real national leadership, even in a spiritual sense.

from here

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper186.html#2.%20THE%20MASTER'S%20ATTITUDE

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on March 14, 2008, 02:38:44 am
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There is no way I am going against the Fathers will.  There is no chance as I keep on finding things all the time

sevens, you may believe you go along with the Father's will, but Calvin is right!  The Bible does distinctly say that one is not supposed to add or subtract from it's teachings!  The Urantia Book, Scientology and the Book of Mormon clearly all do that.

How do you expect to be raptured away if you aren't a good Christian??


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 14, 2008, 02:58:45 pm
How do you know that you are a good Christian??

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 16, 2008, 01:35:30 am
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ODE 17. Ode of Solomon

A peculiar change of personality,' scarcely realized until the return from it in the last verse.

1   I was crowned by my God: my crown is living: 2 And I was justified in my Lord:  my incorruptible salvation is He. 3 I was loosed from vanity, and I was not condemned: 4 The choking bonds were cut off by her hands:   I received the face and   the fashion of a new person: and I walked in it and was saved;  5 And the thought of truth led me on. And I walked after it and did not wander: 6 And all. that have seen me were amazed: and I was regarded by them as a strange person: 

  7   And He who knew and brought me up is the Most High in all His perfection. And He glorified me by His kindness, and raised my thoughts to the height of His truth.   

 8  And from thence He gave me the way of His precepts and I opened the doors that were closed,. 9   And brake in pieces the bars of iron: but my iron melted and dissolved before me; 10 Nothing appeared closed to me: because I was the door of everything.   

    11 And I went over all my bond men to loose them; that I might not leave any man bound or binding: 12 And I imparted my knowledge without grudging: and my prayer was in my love:   

13 And I sowed my fruits in hearts, and transformed them into myself: and they received my blessing and lived;   14 And they were gathered to me and were saved; because they were to me as my own members and I was their head.    Glory to thee our head the Lord Messiah. Hallelujah.
 
All about the journey to the ancient places.

"Glory to thee our head the Lord Messiah. Hallelujah."

http://sevenfoldbooks.com/odes_of_solomon.htm

read it all.  Its all about this journey to the beginning places
http://sevenfoldbooks.com/odes_of_solomon.htm
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on March 19, 2008, 04:13:08 pm
How do you know that you are a good Christian??

Sevens

Yes, I am a Christian.  I take great pride in following the teachings of the Bible, and I am confident that I will be one of the ones whisked away once the Rapture begins, before the Tribulation. 

Are you?

How can you be since study of this Urantia Book clearly contradicts the guidance of the Bible?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 19, 2008, 06:03:00 pm
12 Apostles, you really have to get with it a little more and start expanding yourself.

I'm sure you will be awaken no problem, I have demonstrated the connection between the Bible and the UB more than anyone else on the Planet and yet people judge and run to the hills in light of the current evidence!

And you know through revelation that the churches undergo a rebuke....you know that.  So how can you be so judgmental.

Besides I am sure you dont read or look into things out of fear.

I can tell that you have not much to say by the size of your posts just judgement.

You just got to look into things with proper analysis and Jesus commands us to look into things for the truth of the matter.  There is nothing wrong with the Urantia Book which has led me to the greatest discoveries on the planet of the lost cites from ancient times or former times.  There is nothing on the planet that compares and it is all written about in the Bible and there is clear description of this whole journey in your book and other books.

By judging me you judge yourself and I have to be careful of that to as this gets very intense.  But don't judge me it would error because I work for the Father full time without the monthly PAY CHECK and I am producing the results on the table no crap!  Just simple plain evidence led by the books of religion and given freely without price and reward and precept upon precept, stone upon stone and block upon block stammering away on these posts, threads and branches.

All I'm saying is that I recognize many things that the church fails to do so because of pride and prejudice and over bearing doctrine used to fear people, the churches have not come up with the evidence as I have in this journey of faith with my friend and master Jesus beside me. 

Since I discovered the first temple of the Father on this planet, I hold one of the crowns of the Sevenfold treasury.  And where are the churches I ask!  Hiding behind doctrine which is not acceptable by the words of the bible.

There will be penalty for avoiding the truth and casting judgement being the so called representative of the Father.  Like I said it is Christianities responsibility for the Congregation is to search out the truth of the matter as it reveals itself and if they dont they are in big trouble and will undergo devastating correction from the Father.

First there will be revealment through Jesus and then correction by the Father according to the attitude!  If the leaders don't search this out properly and judge away they will miss rapture.  I can guarantee that!

Then after which the leaders and are large portion of the church knowing that they missed the opportunity and will go through a most devastating regret for failing to look into the matter and failing to act in the proper sense at the time when the Father and Jesus requires the church.

All the books clearly describe every aspect of this journey and why do you fight it.  If you fight and go against me you go against the Father and that is like rejecting the work of the Holy Spirit and you know that is almost an act of a reprobate.  I know that there is a severe penalty no matter who.
 
That is the crossroads we are at.  The parting of the ways before the gates to the city where the tree of life is housed.  Far beyond man made doctrine and ideas that are not consistent in attitude to the truth as it reveals itself.

Also the leaders bare great responsibility in this and if they and a large portion of the congregation miss rapture due to stiffnecked, then there arse is grass from the Congregation and they will be in the biggest trouble and dilemma from there own people for leading them astray for not looking into the matter due to slothfulness and judgement and for not being open, honest, sincere if they recognize truth as it unfolds!  The miss of rapture will strip bare all the leaders of all the pride and prejudice, they will be all bare to the core and completely vulnerable post rapture.  They will miss rapture because have failed in there duty to man because of poor attitude with pride and failing to do into looking into the matter.

They all not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination.

This journey and revealing is the greatest CATCH 22 ever on the planet.  You are damned if you hide and run to the hills judging away and alternatively you are damned by the churches if you look into the matter and embrace.  There is only one way out and that is to embrace and research with truth, beauty and goodness with a honest heart looking into everything. 

There is no other way!  What a construct with such challenge which perplexes people and all guided by the Father in relation to the former things and the cities.  If I were you I would prepare your congregation NOW and tell the truth and dont hide it, thats the worst thing you can do.

If you don't you are in trouble for failing to warn man which would be the greatest failure of man towards his brother in this current scenario.  If the leaders dont do this they will miss rapture in light of the truth.  Just this post can determine there parting of the ways.

This journey is like an octopus with big long tentacles. As soon as you become conscious of this journey, even by looking at the images of the cities then you are involved whether you like it or not. You, in and your attitude will be seen in the instant and a record is made by the recorder Seraphim. That happens to everyone that just looks at the information and the images even if its in 5 minutes, there in and a record has been made!  This is one way the Most High searches the souls of man.

No way around it, you are locked in to the journey of survival and your attitude is seen in the instant.

Be very careful not to judge and thats advise I take on board to.  This journey can be very dangerous on the spiritual level and it does concern rapture and the former things with a new book as all the books are opened and judgement is based on the standards that the opened books behold.



Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on March 23, 2008, 11:36:53 pm
sevens,

My view on the Urantia Book is something similar to what I imagine the early Christians felt towards the Gnostic Gospels, meaning, a fanciful reinterpretation of the Gospels to suit one's own private beliefs, and nothing more. 

Any book that contradicts the Bible goes against the Bible, let's get that straightened out right off. Since the Bible also says that one must not add or detract from it's teachings, I'd also have to say that Islam, the Urantia Book, Gnosticism and Mormonism are all going down one dangerous track.  It's your decision to do so, of course, the Bible preaches free will, however, don't say you weren't warned when the time comes that you meet your maker.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 23, 2008, 11:46:49 pm
No worries Calvin, Praise the Lord! Thanks for the warning but there are more warnings for those who dont listen at the end times when all is revealed..  Everything!!! from top to bottom which does mean the Abyss!  The cities!

All the best

Have you the read the Urantia Book completely?  How do you know its wrong?

ahahahahah!!!  I am on absolutely standby, all stations are on action mode!!!

Anyway I reckon Ive have the best interpretation and presentation on this side of the black stump that will make all theories chaff and stubble. ahahahahahah! AAHHHHH COME ON YOU GUYS! Where is your George Washington spirit? eh! You guys can do better than this, you maybe better in flicking to verses in the bible but I have the truth, the diamond in the rough, the pearl of great price! using the bible and other books with equal respect! We are now faced with the Heritage of the Ages, the power of the ages and what do we do in light of our theories?. Saved for thousands of years and preserved for us today! tremble and aghast! There looks like evidence of something AAAAAHHHHH!

And look at ya! full of judgement and warning!  No way man!  thats not Jesus in exploration and discovery  we should rejoice instead for the victory is ours and we will be rewarded because this is the beginning of the latter rain as in the truth of all ages and demonstration!

Thats what I got and what I was led to in the books and no where else!

At the end of the day we are one happy family!!

Smiling all the way! ahahahahahahahahah!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on March 24, 2008, 02:14:59 am
Good words, Calvin, yes, good words indeed.

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12 Apostles, you really have to get with it a little more and start expanding yourself.

sevens, have you listened to what Calvin said, I mean, really listened??  By following the Urantia Book, you are in danger of losing your immortal soul!!

For the sake of your soul, please disavow this deceitful tome and become a good Christian again. We are all pulling for you to make the right decision.

It is especially disconcerting that this conversation had to take place on the day after Easter Sunday, however, perhaps you can make something good of it, by doing the right thing and honoring the memory of Christ.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 24, 2008, 03:05:01 am
Hi 12 Apostles

AAAhhhh come on! Thanks for your concern but I totally disagree with you and with Calvin BIG TIME! with thanks.

Man O man Oh! I completely disagree with Calvin and his words to the highest degree!

What if Im right, it sounds like you are controlled by fear to venture forth with boldness into new areas of Jesus Christ in the things he is revealing !

I have no fear at all about my Immortal soul!  I look forward to my rapture!

FOR SURE!  I'm ready, ready to GO!  Its you guys that might be left behind!!  Then you will have to review all my work over the years on this journey and then you will be thinking.  You know we should of looked into this when he had the opportunity!

and this

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It is especially disconcerting that this conversation had to take place on the day after Easter Sunday, however, perhaps you can make something good of it, by doing the right thing and honoring the memory of Christ.

I did honor Jesus, that's why I never went camping over Easter instead I spent my time at home finding out more about the Lord, Jesus my friend! in this grand journey where the new will come out of the Old, the New Beginning out of the former things.

What have you got to worry about when the Feast is about to happen.  This is where the action for Easter is, right here and no where else in the way of the new for old, gold for brass with some refining to do.

Actually I spent 10 hours listening to David Ells one of your Pastor Friends but listening in relation to this journey to the ancient places.

The first 2hrs was good and confirmed the journey in many places being you have to be focalised to the ancient places and this journey.
The Second 2hrs was OK and still, I identified key points but you have to be focalised on the ancient places.
The third 2hrs I feel he was lost and confusing where he lost me.

But overall he was identifying this journey, he didn't know what the logistics and physical components where of the end times was so he would justify it as spiritual rapture without physical.  I believe there is a physical and spiritual rapture and its one and the same connected with the ancient cities.  I believe he has the event timing horizon right but doesn't have the tools in what is used for it to happen.  So he would pass it on to the spiritual.  But in this journey we have the instruments and the locations, the city and the goal and reflections of the journey in the books and the out come.

We have EVERYTHING  rejoice in the Lord!  Yea!

Just remember that if I am right and a rapture occurs, this journey to the ancient places is the only record of its type to exist and it wont be on the Net for long after rapture!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 24, 2008, 03:52:06 am
Look you guys, you can get upset with me and grant me eternal life but it will take mighty mountains to swerve my path!

How do you know that you are not submitting to the will of the father for not being open minded??  Eh! EH! especially to the revealing from the books and to the cities and foreseen?  Eh! EH!

These are the instruments of the Father of the original ancient temples of thousands of years ago before Abraham.  The places are being revealed for a purpose and I think I know what it is.

Big time!  Its all to do with religion and unfinished business from these old and long ago places.

Christianity should look at this more deeper, this is where the Father relies on the Body of his Son but we know thats not going to happen unless a realisation occurs after the fact!  But by then rapture has passed!

Ive never had so much fun and enjoyment working through the books of religion to the ancient places!  You know that test of faith, the great leap in the beforehand, the test of our spiritual fibre?  The real Catch 22 situation, like a twilight zone area? 

The clock is ticking but we dont know the time nor the hour but it must be close as we find in the revealed?  The all time mystery! unlocked in religion. Doesn't matter what we think, it has been identified and therefore unlocked by an individual the activator of the process of the end times.

Inhabitants of the Earth I would be on red alert for anything, anytime and everywhere make sure your motives are right towards one another daily.

This is the great dilemma for religion in the End Times, hesitancy and unbending attitude! but What IF!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on March 25, 2008, 09:45:40 am
sevens,

By attaching the same weight to material that God has not sanctioned, you run the risk of offending God, and so, could be one of the many here left behind!  You would be in the company of pornographers, abortionists, liberals and other non-Christians. Surely, you can see that God has designed these rules for all of us to live by for our own good.  By coming up with your own rulings and teachings as you have in the Urantia Book, you run the risk of offending God. Why would God give us the gospels if he did not mean that we should obey them?  Surely, you can see the logic of this. 

Repent, sevens!!  There is only one book that all true believers must believe, and it is the Bible!  Repent before it is too late to save yourself.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 25, 2008, 05:53:32 pm
And why were the apostles given prophecy for the end times because Jesus knew the Church would be distracted with other things.  Why is the Father severe with the church in the end times and why is there a great falling away in the refinement?  in the end times??

I believe the church has some severe lessons to learn in this time, and thats why the church especially will go through refinement in light of truth as prophecied by the Church fathers.

The only way to see if I am right is to verify the ancient places.

If I am wrong then I am wrong I would have to review, if I am right then the church will have something to think about.  I mean something to really think about!!

See you dont know if I am wrong, you have not proved that yet.

The only way to shut me up is to go out there in the Persian Gulf to find truth.

Actually are you sure that you shouldn't be repenting!!  How do you know that I am wrong?

Are you afraid and fearful of new and expanded truth!

One thing for sure I am not the enemy to Christianity nor of the Jewish people, if anything I'm trying to help the people of Christianity and the Jewish people. 

If anything and in real truth,  I should get a medal even though I have a crown given by the Kingdom of Heaven.  But I'm not interested in medals but only the truth.  Because truth is the highest ideal and I do this out of love which does involve team work with the angels.

If all hate the truth, I cant do anything about it, its up to them individually as we are dealing with all things and that includes countries and other connected faiths!

All I can say is what a perplexing journey this is,  that turns every ones spiritual comfort zone upside down to make them think again, a ruffling of the feathers from the Father in Heaven!!

I say ahahahahahahahah this is huge and its only a matter of time where everyones arse is grass if they dont become aware and ignore through judgement of what is happening!

Dont tell me to repent, I suggest you look into your heart and all the evidence and information about the current change and scenario and see how it fits in the end times.

The change is already happening as we speak.

The best thing for you and Christianity is to drop all the judgement and look into the matter properly without reservation and honestly go through the research and honestly share it with the congregation in the sincere way of Jesus. 

No one can be accountable for that high level motive! least of all me!

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 28, 2008, 07:07:23 pm
Hey Calvin, why is it when I reply to your posts promptly a week later you reply, is it that when you feel frustrated you come here, on a whim?

Bit of a kick here and there, see if the thing still moves.  You know! Kick here, have a nosey! give it a jab, a poke in the gut, see if the thing is still alive!

Snap! or Flash! meaning rapture

oh the thing is alive!  OH! but what did we miss??

Here is a post on the endtimes that I thought was applicable and remember if this journey is the truth in the final outcome and you are left behind being presumptuous then you would have to be one of the witness of this information and that will be the test.  I stand by my experience in this whole process as I have delivered some runs on the board.  I to, am bold but I walk in total faith like the Father requires with him through the example of Jesus.

You will simply have to spread the word to your congregation of the witness which may highlight a few things about leadership!

And here we are faced with the truth of all things of all ages in front of our face and look at what people do in religion....run for cover!  and thats where the opportunity is missed in the apprehension and the challenge of the the soul at the end from the beginning.

Oh!! well here is the post.

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Hey Jimmy I liked your post.  Yes I believe that the end is coming soon.  The scriptures you use really tells it all

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Matthew 7: 13 – 14
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

How true in the above if you view it from rapture point of view.  Just looking at this in relation to the submerged cities and the gates on the website leading to its knowledge. "But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."  The Gates of the City on the website is small and few find it eh!  Hard to find and not many people know about it!!  and this ""But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life"  The gates, road and the city, the road being the branches and path leading to the city and research.  The Gates leading to life, the tree of life!  The gates to the city where the tree of life was once kept back in our ancient History.  All the beginning places and the revealment of them over a few years.?!

and this fragment in the bold

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A day of reckoning is coming, but until then the life and work of the Church must grow and mature with weeds in its midst. Jesus summed it up quite bluntly when He told His first followers that not everyone who called Him 'Lord' would He recognize as His own, but only those who did the Will of God through the regeneration of their minds (Matthew 7, verses 15 through 27; Titus, Chapter 3, verses 1 through 11).

Yes I agree that many will say the name of Jesus but Jesus wont recognize them because they rejected the truth in the first place.  Never looked into the matter and when he means regeneration, spiritual regeneration and that must infer a revelation of the Father and a demonstration of the new expanded Gospel when all things come into fruition.  A record of the journey with discovery and a demonstration in tandem,  in parallel to the journey and thoughts in the document.

One thing for sure I now it will be like in the days of Noah, that for sure, undoubtedly!

There is no doubt about that and everyone will under estimate this at the wrong time because it came from a nothing source in their view only to realize after it has occurred.  You know this could happen right now, tonight, at anytime in the spiritual flux on the planet!  I really believe it will happen that way, in a flash and being a few people disappearing, it will get hushed up in the media and whitewashed but the church will know and all kinds of declarations will come out, like closing ranks of all religions.  But even then people wont know the truth only the few and who are they?? 

Yeah!  who are they I wonder and who are the witnesses then?  eh!  if this record is right and things occur in accordance to the Fathers will.  Who is going to spread the message to the rest of the people.

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If by chance this journey is the final out come then who will be here to verify the ancient places.  This where the ancient places could used for wrong purposes and whoever goes there and discovers it be aware thats all I say.  As you know the discover is not intimate with the journey and there is only one record that can be relied upon.  This record is for Jesus and driven by Jesus and the Holy Spirit and is certainly dedicated to the Father in Paradise as a joint effort of man and the Father working together in the witness of itself that brings forth the fruits from the beginning from the cities. 

Is that enough to unify man and religion no! thats why a demonstration has to occur for it to be complete that all witness.  So they know! and witness! then there will be the missing reported but I dont think it will be many. 

I know it will be the reserve Corp of Destiny that will be gone which numbers over 1000 and increasing.  The ones who know the final scenario and go with faith in the beforehand without having to give anything away except wrong motives would be included.  Those left behind where either too busy and rejected the final outcome and this is reason for the verification of the truth of the matter after the rapture process and this is where religion closes ranks and formulates a new strategy??

I feel that rapture will occur like a Flash/Gone event and possibly associated with a loud thunder clap that you have never ever heard before, it envelopes the whole planet.  But I'm sure no one gets hurt!

Hey, I'm willing to for go the physical discovery of the cities of myself if it helps to get to the truth of the matter and completes the end time scenario.  However, Just remember the first record and trail that was created through all the books of religion including a new book that led to the discovery.

and again

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Matthew 7: 13 – 14
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Isn't that so true in relation to the end times scenario, the entry way to the city of life is a real narrow way barely getting through the gates and its paths and branches just like to the submerged cities and where only a few find it in the end times.  In amongst all that is said in the doctrines of man about the end times only a few find it and believe it and have faith in it in the beforehand!

Only few find it, not many like I have always been saying!

Anyway the raptured will be groomed in heaven for the coming back and for the destiny of mankind after the day of the Lord and the day of the Lord can be over a period of time. The Day of the Lord and its beginning would be signified by rapture!

Yeah!  who are they I wonder and who are the witnesses then?  eh!  if this record is right and things occur in accordance to the Fathers will.  Who is going to spread the message to the rest of the people. 



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"The brotherhood of men is founded on the fatherhood of God. The family of God is derived from the love of God—God is love. God the Father divinely loves his children, all of them. The kingdom of heaven, the divine government, is founded on the fact of divine sovereignty—God is spirit. Since God is spirit, this kingdom is spiritual. The kingdom of heaven is neither material nor merely intellectual; it is a spiritual relationship between God and man.


and this fragment that I just happen to, meant to run over...

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If different religions recognize the spirit sovereignty of God the Father, then will all such religions remain at peace. Only when one religion assumes that it is in some way superior to all others, and that it possesses exclusive authority over other religions, will such a religion presume to be intolerant of other religions or dare to persecute other religious believers. Religious peace—brotherhood—can never exist unless all religions are willing to completely divest themselves of all ecclesiastical authority and fully surrender all concept of spiritual sovereignty. God alone is spirit sovereign. You cannot have equality among religions (religious liberty) without having religious wars unless all religions consent to the transfer of all religious sovereignty to some superhuman level, to God himself. The kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men will create religious unity (not necessarily uniformity) because any and all religious groups composed of such religious believers will be free from all notions of ecclesiastical authority—religious sovereignty. God is spirit, and God gives a fragment of his spirit self to dwell in the heart of man.[/color] Spiritually, all men are equal. The kingdom of heaven is free from castes, classes, social levels, and economic groups. You are all brethren. But the moment you lose sight of the spirit sovereignty of God the Father, some one religion will begin to assert its superiority over other religions; and then, instead of peace on earth and good will among men, there will start dissensions, recriminations, even religious wars, at least wars among religionists.Freewill beings who regard themselves as equals, unless they mutually acknowledge themselves as subject to some supersovereignty, some authority over and above themselves, sooner or later are tempted to try out their ability to gain power and authority over other persons and groups. The concept of equality never brings peace except in the mutual recognition of some overcontrolling influence of supersovereignty." The Urantia Book. 134.4.1[/b]

The above was most revealing and true!  In essence it out lines the spiritual Government of Jesus!  The brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of the Father and simply tells us where we go wrong today!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on March 30, 2008, 05:48:47 am
sevens,

You asked,

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Hey Calvin, why is it when I reply to your posts promptly a week later you reply, is it that when you feel frustrated you come here, on a whim?

And here is my answer:

I have tried to lead you in the true ways of the Lord, yet, like your obstinate friend, Absonite, you refuse to see His ways.  So, much like a driver passing by a car wreck, I realize, at last, that there is nothing I can do to alter your current condition.  So, like that driver in the car, I will reluctantly drive away.  I am certain that when you at last meet your maker, you will be made aware of what a great folly it is to follow the words of a false prophet.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on March 30, 2008, 08:13:43 am
I disagree with you utterly and I say let the Lord be the judge.

Least I show facts and discovery.  Also if I where you I would get your church and prepare for the visitation of the Angona System!!!

This will be our demise particularly for those who reject truth.

This is what rapture is for.  Still remember the standard for rapture.

No judgement!  Listen to the Lords words and learn!

Also now that we have a good idea whats install for us, I would suggest drop all the judgement and worry about your congregation with the truth.  I found this the Christian church never did OK.  Thats because I look at everything with an open mind within my focalisation to the places of the Lord from the Past.  OK!

Is that OK Calvin??  ahahahahahah

All our arses are grass if we don't get our spiritual selves in order and that means not to judge! but instead look at yourself and review!  and that's In light of this impending disaster with the visitation of the Angona System. Nibiru or Planet X.

So get ready man and Calvin, this is the call!

There is utterly no deception here its only me getting on with the job in finding and knowing the mind of the Father.  So now is the time to get the act together and start warning people.

The truth is here and this is the demise we have to look forward to and brought to you by other truthseekers and verified in the Urantia Book and which is also in Revelation in case you don't know ahahahahahahahahah.

No time for silly talk pointing the finger, that's a waste of time, its the time for review Calvin or have you become stiffed necked in light of the truth, the great test for you.

This is the great demise looking right at you in the images and this Angona System will destroy the Babylon System as we know it!!

Now we know why the Father has an escape plan such as rapture! for the faithful and those who embrace truth and nothing but!

And here is the great demise for us all coming at you soon! due 2012 apparently.  There are a number of prophecies from all over the place that pin point 2012 the end of the world as we know it.

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/nibiru.jpg)

False prophet...thats rubbish you dont know what you talking about! I'm no false prophet all I am doing is telling the truth.

Thank you My Father for Rapture of the elect and the faithful.  The great escape the gift for being faithful and truthful in light of truth with sincerity in truth.

This planet is in BIG trouble!  I can see this coming a mile away!  Now I can see the why and who will be saved.  Selfish Arse holes will not be saved in this scenario and reality!  That is for sure! now that our demise is front of us.

Calvin, if you dont get it together in truth you are in BIG trouble! man!

We are face to face with the truth and do we run to the hills or do we embrace with spiritual and physical preparation??  EH!  EH!!

Calvin here is a link that you find interesting and may help you understand.

Terrestial Escape UB Search (http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=terrestrial+escape&submit=Submit)



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7. Techniques of terrestrial escape. There is fundamentally only one way in which individual human life can be initiated on the inhabited worlds, and that is through creature procreation and natural birth; but there are numerous techniques whereby man escapes his terrestrial status and gains access to the inward moving stream of Paradise ascenders.

Terrestial Escape (http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper49.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper49.html&line=164#mfs)




Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on April 06, 2008, 12:01:22 am
sevens,

From what I can see, Calvin is simply trying to turn you back to the true ways of the Lord, you should listen to him!  The Bible is not a buffet, we can not choose for ourselves which teachings we like and which teachings we do not prefer, like the Urantia Book does.  All teachings must be given equal measure.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 06, 2008, 01:48:44 am
I am being guided in equal measure throughout all the scriptures I have nothing to fear for I have the Saviour by my side.  He is guiding me throughout all the books of religion.

I am on the true path of truth.

I am very satisfied with my path.

Calvin will not convince me otherwise as he has his own challenges.

I am ahead of Calvin, if anything Calvin should learn from this.  I have been led to the first cities and are a co discoverer and have documented the journey where it leads me

There is no other journey on the planet, no other that leads to judgement and that reveals all the ancient places in the beforehand.

Sevens


Title: The NibiruShock2012 images are hoax's
Post by: sevens on April 15, 2008, 12:27:08 am
By the way the images from NibiruShock2012 are hoax's

Sorry about that.

But in my research I did find strong characteristics of both The Angona System and Nibiru.

In that sense it was a good study.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 18, 2008, 07:01:18 am
Anyway Calvin.

My work is complete, Ive done my job, now it up to the universe.

Whatever happens from this point on just happens.

As far as I'm concerned I dont think I can go any further in this research. Im done!

Its all up to Father now, I let go of this whole journey and release it to the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

This servant cannot go any further.

I reckon we live in a very crappy world with many crappy people who talk crap at the end of the day for there own selfish garbage purpose!

See you later world and you will need all you can get to survive this on coming event and I certainly wont be around to help out because this world deserves everything it bloody gets.

I feel this whole journey to the ancient places has been a complete waste of time as no one gives a shiteee anyway!

And we all know that!  Who cares anyway!  typical man ****!

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Elmer Jessup on April 18, 2008, 04:33:59 pm
Sevens,

Don't you give up!  Humanity is sheep and, like good shepherds, we have to lead them to the path of the straight and narrow.  Sometimes, it's like herding cats, but I have faith that we who are steadfast and true can whip humanity in line.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 19, 2008, 03:34:29 pm
Hey Elmer,  its great to hear from you.

I sorry to you for witnessing my outbursts of anger with bad language, I'm not like Jesus in his perfection in personality.  I truly believe that we are in a real testing time at the moment.  Probably more so on those that explore the truth than those who have no idea.

Its unfortunate that certain people want to shut this work down without them realizing it in there actions.  There attacks on this work indirectly and directly are aimed at vulnerabilities that exist in this work, not so much here but in other places.

Its really on a knife edge and the road is so narrow that I cant move and completely vulnerable and that does include income I suppose.  I'm like a lame duck in the living experience of the Father in the journey to the ancient places.

Honestly this is a battle journey to the first places and it is on all multiple fronts and I sit here scribing in the middle with this.  A battle front over there and this front over here and circumstances everywhere.

Its a test for me for I am no super hero like what they portray in the movies just a normal bloke who loves the Father and wants to do a good job for him in a normal man sense with sincerity.  I have weakness everywhere with only the Lord to rest on.

Elmer I really appreciate your prayers I honestly need help and the Father can provide this.  I rest on his help.

All the best Elmer, it was a blessing to hear from you and thanks for your encouragement.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 20, 2008, 12:43:20 am
Elmer,

We are the Kings men.

I salute and lift up my hand and hail the king! Jesus.

Hail, King Jesus!  Praise the Lord!

With a great shout of the Kings Men we raise our voices in honour to the Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus! YEA! our guide to this massive revealing of the things that are hidden.

There is non other than great Jesus leading us through the Abyss to the end into a new beginning in the destiny of mankind.

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"Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths
Of the Infinite Garden"

and

"Yea, I tell thee truly,
The paths are seven
Through the Infinite Garden"

Jesus
Jesus papers, The Essenes written by the teacher of righteousness.

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 20, 2008, 09:36:55 am
The great confirmation and message from the triangle seal from the great Pyramid.

The great Message from The Ancients coming from the smallest place in the worlds largest monument at onetime.
           (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ancientMan.jpg)

The ancient man pointing to the triangle chevron representative of the great triangle City in the Persian Gulf.

Perhaps Maybe this could be the great mystery of the great Pyramid monument.

Could this be the fulfillment of the texts in the Bible relating to the great Pyramid?

If you follow the arm of the ancient man through his body.  It will shape into a Sun in the background.  If you connect that with the circle in the middle of the triangle and then connect the line to the other circle also in the background of the Pyramid you a have the co planar circles.

The little man seems to be in the background of the small second triangle/circle chevron embossed within the larger primary triangle/circle.

The partial concentric circles appears to be in the background of the man.

Its a real ancient multi dimensional picture full of symbolism that embraces the symbolism that underpins this journey to the ancient beginning places.

ahahahahah

Here is a thumbnail so you can see the ancient man.

 (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ancientMan1.jpg)


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 21, 2008, 01:07:21 am
Here is a very very very interesting calculation of the slope of the great pyramid just found

            http://www.halexandria.org/dward106.htm           
             
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The slope angle is intriguingly similar to   360°/7   = 51.42857142857...°  This similarity is discussed in more detail in Nines.
Some very interesting numbers. 

Remember the universal compass symbol of the triangle and circle symbol and splitting the triangle at each end and then bending inwards by 60 degrees, each 6 ends, then multiply by 60 each end and then you have a 360 degree circle, like a universal compass incorporated in a multi dimensional symbol.

Combine the slope calculation with the triangle and circle chevron symbol(universal compass) and you have a Pyramid.  A fair dinkum pyramid with the correct slope based on the circle divided by 7.

and note the sloping angle of the great pyramid.   "The slope angle is intriguingly similar to    360°/7   = 51.42857142857...°"  Interesting numbers.  Everything about Pyramid could be in symbolism about this journey.  The record in stone revealing itself.

And about the nines.

This is an amazing link and well worth to check out.

    
Nines

           
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vvv The profound implication of all of this is that the Moon is mathematically sized to the Earth,   the choice of 360 degrees in a circle is not arbitrary,  and if we multiply the radius of the Earth (3,960 miles) by 60 (the result of   multiplying the sides of the   3-4-5 triangle, and a nice complement to 360 degrees    ) we obtain 237,600 miles.  Guess how far the Moon is from the Earth!

remember the triangle and circle relationship!
and this

With respect to   the five-pointed star  and internal regular pentagon, one might note that the internal   angles of the pentagon is 108 degrees (3x36), and that 1,080 (3x360) has 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 24, 27, 30, 36, 40, 45, 54, 50, 72,  and many other numbers as factors (i.e. their quotients are integers).  And obviously 1080, 3960, 5040, 7920... all reduce to 9.  Slowly we are beginning to see why geometry means “earth measure”   
http://www.halexandria.org/dward091.htm       

Essentially the great Pyramid is a great big Seven  ahahahahaha.

and this the metal plate found near the shaft

 
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In 1989 it was subjected to scientific analysis. The tests were done by Dr. Jones in the mineral resources engineering department at Imperial College and Dr. El Gayer in the department of petroleum and mining at the Suez University. They utilized both chemical and optical tests. One hypothesis was that the metal may have come from a meteorite. It have been well documented that primitive and stone age peoples have used meteorite iron for implements, etc. They were able to make crude iron implements from the meteorite iron well before the iron age. In fact, wrapped in King Tut's mummy was a dagger made of meteorite iron. How do we know if the iron is from a meteorite or made by man? We can determine this from the iron's nickel content. Meteorite iron has a higher value than the iron found on earth. The analysis of the metal plate yielded the following: "the iron plate from Giza is clearly not of meteoritic origin, since it contains only a trace of nickel". Further analysis revealed that it had traces of gold on its surface, maybe once gold plated. Drs. Jones and Gayer concluded the following:

"It is concluded, on the basis of the present investigation, that the iron plate is very ancient. Furthermore, the metallurgical evidence supports the archeological evidence   which suggests that the plate was incorporated within the pyramid at the time that structure was being built  .
   
http://www.gizapyramid.com/hidden.htm 

and

 
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PRAISE TO THE WHITE CROWN:  Hail to thee, that Eye of Horus, the great one,
Â…  when she rises in the eastern horizon.  Thou art the mistress of glorious appearances."


In the Pyramid Texts the white crown is identified with the mother of the deceased:


"I know my mother, I have not forgotten my Mother the White Crown..."
    - Pyramid Texts, utterance 470. 

 http://www.pyramidofman.com/Mother/
 
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 21, 2008, 02:10:38 am
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ISAIAH 19

 http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjvisa19.htm

19:18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called,   The city of destruction. 

(What city of destruction? and what are the five cities? could it be representative of the 5 discovered cities of our past?  Is the city of destruction the first city that activates an event? in the revealing!)

19:19   In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt  , and   a pillar at the border  thereof to the LORD.

(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)

19:20   And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt:  for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and   he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

(Jesus did visit Egypt and the Iknanton followers did acknowledge Jesus in Egypt for his mission.  And does the above reflect the second coming and is the ancient man pointing to the triangle and circle symbol the great sign with confirmation of the journey?  Symbols that we are completely familiar with in this journey to the ancient places???)

19:21   And the LORD shall be known to Egypt  , and   the Egyptians shall know the LORD in that day,  and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform [it].

Very interesting verses.
   
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:34:34 pm
I was checking out some links and noticed this image of Marduk.

                      (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/mardukCircles.jpg)

         http://www.livius.org/ba-bd/babylon/babylonia.html         

Note the 3 coplanar circles of 1stEden on the dress of Marduk and yet each circle is a concentric circle.  ahahahahah!

And note: Marduk is on the water or is that submerged in the Abyss?  Marduk comes from the Abyss! and his message with symbolism.

Also his headdress is full of circles in which the coplanar arrangement can be seen across his crown.

Here is what the UB says about Marduk.

                     
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PAPER 95 - THE MELCHIZEDEK TEACHINGS IN THE LEVANT, Oct 19 2000

    * line 34: The Salem teachers greatly reduced the number of the gods of Mesopotamia, at one time bringing the   chief deities down to seven:  Bel, Shamash, Nabu, Anu, Ea,   Marduk,  and Sin. At the height of the new teaching they exalted three of these gods to supremacy over all others, the Babylonian triad: Bel, Ea, and Anu, the gods of earth, sea, and sky. Still other triads grew up in different localities,   all reminiscent of the trinity teachings of the Andites and the Sumerians and based on the belief of the Salemites in   Melchizedek's insignia of the three circles.   

    * line 44: It was the Salem missionaries of the period following the rejection of their teaching who wrote many of the Old Testament Psalms, inscribing them on stone, where later-day Hebrew priests found them during the captivity and subsequently incorporated them among the collection of hymns ascribed to Jewish authorship. These beautiful psalms from Babylon were not written in the temples of   Bel-Marduk;  they were the work of the descendants of the earlier Salem missionaries, and they are a striking contrast to the magical conglomerations of the Babylonian priests. The Book of Job is a fairly good reflection of the teachings of the Salem school at Kish and throughout Mesopotamia.

and

PAPER 96 - YAHWEH--GOD OF THE HEBREWS, Oct 19 2000

    * line 27: In conceiving of Deity, man first includes all gods, then subordinates all foreign gods to his tribal deity, and finally excludes all but the one God of final and supreme value. The Jews synthesized all gods into their more sublime concept of the Lord God of Israel. The Hindus likewise combined their multifarious deities into the "one spirituality of the gods" portrayed in the Rig-Veda, while the Mesopotamians reduced their gods to   the more centralized concept of Bel-Marduk  . These ideas of monotheism matured all over the world not long after the appearance of Machiventa Melchizedek at Salem in Palestine. But the Melchizedek concept of Deity was unlike that of the evolutionary philosophy of inclusion, subordination, and exclusion; it was based exclusively on creative power and very soon influenced the highest deity concepts of Mesopotamia, India, and Egypt. 

and this one that Links Marduk to Adam in Legend

PAPER 92 - THE LATER EVOLUTION OF RELIGION, Oct 19 2000

    * line 107: with the Hebrews it was, in general,   Adam's return as a material ruler. In Babylon the god   Marduk was a perpetuation of the Adam legend,    the son-of-God idea, the connecting link between man and God. Following the appearance of Adam on earth, so-called sons of God were common among the world races.
I thought that was absolutely interesting and by design links the 3 co planar circles with Adam/Marduk.

and here is the connection of Marduk to 1stEden in symbolism through the 3 coplanar circles.
                    (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/eden_images/10_outfile1.jpg) 
Its all connected to 1stEden in Symbolism

                 
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Ub
Adam's return as a material ruler. In Babylon the god   Marduk was a perpetuation of the Adam legend
and here is some more data of the co planar circles at the base of the Hill which match the the top of the Acropolis Hill in 1stEden.
               (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/eden_target2.jpg) 

Just simply fascinating and awesome!

Interesting measurements Ishtar

Just a thought

       
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Excerpt from the text:
"Measurements of the base of the etemenanki: here are the length and width to be considered:   3x60 is the length, 3x60 is the width  , measured in standard cubits (1 elbow length = about 50 cm). Its dimensions are therefore: 3x3=9 ; 9x2=18
   
3x60 width and 3x60 length = 360 degrees, a circle.  From a square to a circle.

and then if you divide 360/7 you get the slope angle of the Pyramid.

Then if you get the triangle separate each and bend each end 60 degrees x 6 inwards you get a circle. 360 degrees.

Do I see a relationship of the circle, triangle, square and the Pyramid entwined by 360 degrees, the circle and transmutation into other shapes with precision with the common number being 6, 60 and 360 in multiples of 10.

Its like how do we make a circle out of a square or circle into a triangle and what slope!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:38:11 pm
web page (http://www.louvre.fr/llv/oeuvres/detail_notice.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=10134198673225332&CURRENT_LLV_NOTICE%3C%3Ecnt_id=10134198673225332&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=9852723696500800&baseIndex=53&bmLocale=en)
 
   
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The Greek sources
This tower of Bel-Marduk is also known to us from Greek sources: Diodorus Siculus (Book II, 7-10) records that "The temple of Bel erected in the center of the city ... was extraordinarily high... and the Chaldeans did their astronomical work there." Herodotus (I, 178-182) gives its measurements: "This temple is square, and each side is two stadia in length. In the centre is a massive tower, of one stadium in length and breadth; on this tower stands another tower, and another again upon this, and so on up to eight." The Babylonian text confirms this information.
 
Its interesting that the foundations of first and second Babel submerged in the Persian Gulf is in a circular foundation within a triangle chevron which were canals beside the temple.

In the above description I believe is the place of the 3rd attempt to erect a Babel via the UB and this was called probably called Esagila.

   
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This temple was called Esagila,     "the temple that raises its head"    . The text first gives a double description of   the base of the multi-tiered tower built inside the city walls  or ziggurat, then describes the main temple, and, finally, gives the measurements of the multi-tiered tower,   called Etemenanki,   "House of the Foundation of Heaven and Earth"    - the   "Tower of Bable"  in the Bible (Genesis 11,   
The Italics in the above seems to be quite prophetical

   
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"the temple that raises its head"
"House of the Foundation of Heaven and Earth"
"Tower of Bable"
Even on the following seems to infer another attempt in rebuilding Babel on the same foundations.


 
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  “Mardouk,  IE lord,   ordered to me in connection with Etemenanki, the tower  on floors of Babylon,     which before my time had fallen in ruins,  to ensure its base   in the center of the lower world  and its top, to make it similar to the sky”.
This rebuilding of Babel on the same circular foundations is supported by the UB.

The 12 gates of the middle court could very well be reminiscent of the 12 gates that protected 1stEden at the Isthmus connected to the mainland.

 
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The names and locations of   the twelve gates  of the Middle Court (described in 11QT 39:11-13[4]) were apportioned to each of the   twelve sons of Jacob  ,   a pattern repeated  in the gates of the Outer Court as well.[5]
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:40:43 pm
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[18:102] - The Pythagorean relationship represented by a   3-4-5 right triangle is displayed in the dimensions of the King's Chamber.  The east wall diagonal is 309", the length is 412", and the long central diagonal is 515". However, the Pythagorean relation was not identified until 497 B.C.
http://www.templeofsolomon.org/Pyramids/pyramid_symbolism.htm#condim               

Interesting relationship with the 345 triangle and the Kings chamber.

A 345 triangle.

                (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/345.gif)

Sevens and the Pyramid

             
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SEVENS

The number 7 figures prominently in the Book of Revelation.

[39:88] - The height of the Grand Gallery is 7 times the average height of the other passages.

[39:88] - The Grand Gallery has 7 overlapping courses forming its sides.

[39:88] -   The Jubilee passage is 1/7th  the length of the horizontal passage to the Queen's Chamber.

[39:88] - The Queen's Chamber is a 7 sided room (gable roof is 2 sides)

[39:88] - The volume of the peaked area of the Queen's Chamber above the walls is 1/7th the volume of the rest of the chamber from the floor to a level equal to the ceiling of the passageway which enters the chamber.
Ahh interesting.

Gets more intriguing all the time

           
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[14:37] - The cubic capacity of the coffer = same as Ark of Covenant made by Moses {Exodus 25}

[70:272] - The Ark of the Covenant was 2.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 Sacred Cubits. Guessing the thickness of the sides as 1.8 PI gives a volume of 71,282 cubic pyramid inches vs. the volume of the coffer of 71250 cubic pyramid inches.
and this one

           
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[14:34] - The length of the diagonals of the floor of the Antechamber are 666 PI. {Revelation 13, mark of the Beast}

[14:76] - There were 144,000 casing stones {Revelation 7, servants of God given seals during the apocalypse}
It seems to me that the great pyramid is a story of this time and links to the final Seventh mystery as well.

Its amazing that the great seal was found in the most hidden spot and linked to the ancient places through the same symbols and the ancient man.

The Pyramid is probably all about this journey verified from the smallest and most hidden place that links to a unknown history.  I'm sure its prophecy set in stone by Imhotep.

What a genius!

Moving on

         
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[11:159] - The red granite is fairly rare and identical with that of Mt. Horeb {Mt. Sinai}, the mountain on which Moses is said to have received the Ten Commandments.

[14:36] - The empty coffer in the King's Chamber is made of red granite

[14:43] - The ancient Hebrews used units of measure that were the same length as the pyramid inch and Sacred Cubit.

[14:35] - Red Granite appears in the pyramid apparently to mark special events in conjunction with prophetic events related to the Jews.

[11:159] - The red granite is fairly rare and identical with that of Mt. Horeb {Mt. Sinai}, the mountain on which Moses is said to have received the Ten Commandments.

[14:36] - The empty coffer in the King's Chamber is made of red granite.

[4:251] - A portion of the floor in the Antechamber to the King's Chamber is red granite and corresponds to the "unit dimension" of the King's Chamber.

[14:64] - A red granite stone, triangular in shape, appears on a false door at the intersection of the Ascending and Descending passages. This corresponds to the prophecy year of circa 1486 B.C. (Hebrews depart Egypt under Moses)
and this about the FIVE number, sometimes I wonder whether this relates to the 5 locations of the ancient past.  Dalamatia City, Vans highland headquarters, 1Eden, Dilmun North Eastern Persian gulf, and 1st and lower Susa.

I just wonder about that.

         
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FIVES

[39:45] - There are 5 sides to a pyramid and 5 corners.

[39:45] - There are 5x5 pyramid inches in a Sacred Cubit.

[39:45] - The floor of the Queen's Chamber is on the 25th (5x5) course of blocks.

[39:45] - The floor of the King's Chamber is 5x5 courses higher than the Queen's Chamber.

[39:45] - The niche in the wall of the Queen's Chamber is 5x3 ft. high, it is corbelled with 5 stories, the top is 5x5 inches across, and the inner edge is 5x5 inches from the perpendicular center of the wall containing the niche.

[39:45] - The King's Chamber has 5 courses of stone in each of it's 4 walls, and a total of 5x5x4 total stones in it's walls.

[39:45] - The King's Chamber has 5 chambers above it.

[39:45] - The coffer in the King's Chamber has 5 solid sides.

[39:45] - The King's Chamber is 5x10 times the volume of the coffer.

[39:45] - 5 cubic pyramid inches of earth of average density has the same mass as 1/(50x50) of the coffer's volume of water at a temperature that is 1/5th the difference between freezing and boiling.

[39:45] - The coffer's interior volume is 50*50*50 cubic pyramid inches times 5.7, divided by 10. (5.7 is mean earth density)
Each five locations are all connected to each other and that make a one in truth.  Physically it forms a five sided pyramid.  Each side of the pyramid is a storyboard of each location into the oneness of a presentation.

and looking at these numbers we see a final relationship to the number SEVEN

       
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SIMPSON PROPORTIONS OF KING's CHAMBER

[4:12] - If we use a "unit dimension" for the King's Chamber of 103.03 PI, which is the length of the granite portion of the floor in the Antechamber to the King's Chamber measured north to south and also the theoretical height of the missing capstone, then the dimensions of the King's Chamber exhibit some interesting relationships:


   measure   whose square is
width   UD * 2   4
height   UD * 223607   5
length   UD * 4   16
end diagnonal   UD * 3   9
floor diagonal   UD * 4.472   20
side diagonal   UD * 4.583   21
solid diagnonal   UD * 5   25
sum of squares   .   100

[70:184] - The square of UD = the area of the four external sides of the coffer.

[70:184] - One third of UD = the depth of the coffer.

[70:184] - The square of UD divided by 2 Pi = the height of the coffer squared.

[4:92] - If we use a "unit dimension" for the Queen's Chamber of 92.173077+ PI, then the dimensions of the Queen's Chamber exhibit some interesting relationships:


height = UD * 2   whose square is: 4

width = UD * 2.2360679+  whose square is: 5

length = UD * 2.4494897+  whose square is: 6

end diagonal = UD * 3 whose square is: 9

floor diagonal = UD * 3.1622776+  whose square is: 10

side diagonal = UD * 3.3166247  whose square is: 11

solid diagonal = UD * 3.8729833+  whose square is: 15

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sum of squares of all  7  dimensions =   60 

gable height = UD * 2.6457513+ whose square is:   7 
Gee thats interesting, im not sure what the calculation mean but the fact that we can see a   60  and   7  relationship is outstanding considering the current conversation of the   6,60,360  relationship and the   360/7  relationship to the slope angle of the Pyramid.

An inter dimensional relationship which speaks to me of a spiritual and physical relationship that encompasses the great pyramid.

and

   
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[11:160] -   The only markings in the pyramid are in the Descending Passage at 482 PI inches from the pyramid face.  This represents the last year the Pole Star was aligned with the passage, 2141 B.C.
Except for the great triangle/circle chevron seal on the plug and its associated symbolism and messages the seal contains  thanks to the ancient man.
 
ahahahahahahahahahah!

I have to laugh at that one! Thanks ancient man!

Really speaking its a monument of our earth, the past truth and the future destiny.  Its a story about us and our destiny.

Here is the details locked in the Pyramid of our Earth.

   
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from: McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Astronomy, 1982, ISBN 0-07-045251-2
Aberration of Light = 20.496 seconds of arc
Average Days in Calendar Year = 365.2425 days (400 year leap-year cycle)
Light Year = 5.879 x 10**12 mi
Mass of the Earth = 5.975 x 10**24 kg = 6.586 x 10**21 tons
Mean Distance from Sun = 149,597,870,000 meters = 92,937,200 mi.
Mean Distance to Moon = 238,247 mi
Mean Earth Velocity = 66,600 mi/hr
Mean Earth Density = 5.53 g / cu. cm = 90.620464 grams / cu. inch
Mean Earth Equatorial Radius = 6378.160 km = 3969.96 miles
Mean Earth Polar Radius = 6356.775 km = 3956.65 miles
Mean Sun Radius = 6.960 +/- .001 x 10**5 km = 432,470 mi.
Moon Synodical Month = 29.5305882 days
Precession of Equinox = 25,800 years (approx)
Sidereal Year = 365.25636 days
Tropical Year = 365.24220 days
Velocity of Light = 186,291 mi/sec

from: Science and Technology Desk Reference, 1993, Gale Carnegie Library
Mean Circumference of Moon = 6790 mi
Mean Circumference of Earth = 24902 miles at equator, 24860 miles at poles
Mean Distance to Moon = 238,857 mi
Mean Diameter of Moon = 2159 mi
Mean Diameter of Earth = 7926 miles at equator
Mean Distance from Sun = 92,955,900 mi
Moon Sidereal Month = 27.32166 days
Velocity of Light = 186,282 mi/sec

from: Physics, 1966, D. Halliday & R. Resnick, ISBN 0-471-34524-5
Mean Radius of Earth = 6.37 x 10**6 m = 3960 miles
Mass of earth = 5.98 x 10**24 kg
Density of water (@ 20 deg. Celsius) = 1.00 x 10**3 kg/ cu. meter
Pi = 3.14159 26535 89793 23846+

Derived Values from Reference Constants:
Mean Earth Radius = (3969.96 + 3956.65) / 2 = 3963.305 miles
Earth Surface Area = 4 * Pi * (3963.305 mi)**2 = 197,389,867 sq. mi.
Earth Volume = 4/3 * Pi * (3963.305 mi)**3 = 260.772 x 10**9 cubic miles
Its a truth monument!

and is a witness to this journey to the ancient places in the beginning times as far as I'm concerned! 

and this one note the 3/60th error again the 3s and 6's ahah

 
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[14:72] - Aligned True North: The Great Pyramid is the most accurately aligned structure in existence and faces true north with only   3/60th  of a degree of error. The position of the North Pole moves over time and the pyramid was probably exactly aligned at one time.
sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:43:26 pm
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The Prophet has already asked: "Who is left among you, that saw this house in its first glory? (ii, 4). According to Septuagint he afterwards says:   "The last glory of this house shall be greater than its first glory."

To the Prophet, therefore,   there was but one and the same house of Jehovah from Solomon to the time of Messias, 

  built always in the same place and according to the same plan,  that of the Tabernacle. We may therefore admit three different temples, and this article will describe: I. That of Solomon; II. That of Zorobabel; III. That of Herod.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14499a.htm         

In the bold tells something else

I wonder if the three different temples is about the temples where the tree of life was housed in different periods?

Consider we are on the journey directly to the first temples of the Father. The consummation (discovery) of the knowledge of the temples including locations brings in the oneness of the truth which yields a house or temple greater than the former as in the ancient temples of the tree of life of the past. This journey to the ancient places is part of the action of the Messiah Jesus and Melchizedek and is related directly to the oncoming of the Messiahs!  This has been declared!

I just want to note that the Odes of Solomon and the Mystery of Solomon by St Ephraim speaks specifically and in detail about this journey to the ancient places and this journey is a rebuild of Solomon's temple of Wisdom.  The rebuilding of the temple with the greatest mystery on earth!

On the run

   
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Many writers admit   three temples  materially different. Now as the Prophet Aggeus (Vulgate, ii, 10) says of that of Zorobabel:   "Great shall be the glory of this last house more that of the first"  , because   of the coming of the Messias  (v, 8-9),
How true I can see that positively! occurring in this journey and all related to the Messiah as confirmed.

It appears that Messiah is becoming more obvious in this journey! and as seen in the books and now it makes all sense!

and here is some interesting numbers associated with Solomons Temple.

 
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Priests' Court and House of God

The Court of the Priests formed a rectangle of one hundred and eighty-seven cubits from east to west and one hundred and   thirty-seven  cubits from north to south [Middoth, II, 6 (fig. 3)]. To the west stood the house of Jehovah and to the east the altar of holocausts.   The sanctuary was reached by a stairway of twelve steps  (2), which terminated in a majestic porch   one hundred  cubits high and the same in breadth (3). A door without leaves   twenty  cubits wide and forth high led into a vestibule eleven cubits wide. According to the Mishna this doorway was flanked by two square-shaped pillars each formed of   ten  cubes measuring   four  cubits on the sides. On these two pillars rested a sort of entablature formed of   five  oaken beams, separated from each other by square stones set on a line with the
   
IU thought it was interesting some of thiose numbers.

and this the Holies of Holy.

   
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The richly-decorated chamber contained the altar of perfumes before the entrance to the debir, north of the table of proposition and south of the   seven-branch candlestick  . It was not so well lighted or aired as that of   Solomon. 
YEA!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:44:24 pm
They call this a Babylonian world map but look at the symbols.  What do they mean?

    (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/worldMap.jpg)

and the same sign in the Inca lands, a connection of Babylonian and the Inca lands

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/triangle4.jpg)

I see co planar circles within Concentric circles perhaps the Melchizedek insignia?? in reflection or a Map of our Solar system perhaps.  Its interesting to see the connection of the concentric and co planar circles once again, the duality in symbols both connected.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:47:43 pm
Hi

Here is an interesting crop circle that also appears to have all the same symbolism as the seal on the plug of the shaft in the Queens chamber.
    (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/triangleCircle.jpg)

As I look at the crop circle I can see a triangle circle chevron, 3 co planar circles seen in any 3 points of the triangle intersecting with the middle circle. I can see 3 concentric circles in the image, the outer circle the first, the circle ring  in the inner circle the second and the inner area of the circle is a circle in itself.

Very interesting symbolism which has commonality with the seal image in the Great pyramid.

and the triangle circle chevron in the Great Pyramid for comparison.

 (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ancientMan1.jpg)


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:50:45 pm
very very very interesting


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 07:52:11 pm
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ISAIAH 19

  http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjvisa19.htm 

19:18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called,   The city of destruction. 

(What city of destruction? and what are the five cities? could it be representative of the 5 discovered cities of our past?  Is the city of destruction the first city that activates an event? in the revealing!)

19:19   In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt  , and   a pillar at the border  thereof to the LORD.

(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)

19:20   And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt:  for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and   he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

(Jesus did visit Egypt and the Iknanton followers did acknowledge Jesus in Egypt for his mission.  And does the above reflect the second coming and is the ancient man pointing to the triangle and circle symbol the great sign with confirmation of the journey?  Symbols that we are completely familiar with in this journey to the ancient places???) 

19:21   And the LORD shall be known to Egypt  , and   the Egyptians shall know the LORD in that day,  and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform [it].

   

Very interesting verses.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 22, 2008, 11:41:06 pm
Moses' Vee temple in Mt Horeb, Northern Arabia.

   (http://sevenfoldtruth.com/Moses_Gallery/images/l12_altarSite_jpg.jpg)

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/Moses_Gallery/index.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 23, 2008, 01:30:49 am
Interesting link

    http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/history/barbour%20pyramid.htm   

   
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Again, the passage through which Christ "descends into hell," the natural grotto below the Pyramid, has a lower entrance forming a junction with this long entrance passage of the Pyramid, at a little distance before that entrance passage arrives at the bottomless pit.

Unfortunately also, this "short distance" is not specified. It shows however, that the resurrection is due a little before Satan is bound. And if that "short distance" should prove to be   40  inches, that also would   harmonize with the prophetic period which makes the resurrection  due   40 years before "the times of the Gentiles" end.  At all events, these measures approximate to, and wonderfully harmonize with the prophetic periods. MELCHIZEDEK
   
I found the number 40 interesting!  This journey could be the process of the 40 inches or reflective of the forty day test which extended itself as found written in the path of the journey.

Interesting!

and

Here is another crop circles with all the symbolism and key numbers.

 (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar.jpg) 

from

http://www.youtube.com/v/_KoR2t-iM9k&hl=en

The message and the Author.

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar1.jpg) 

and, the Binary message

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar2.jpg) 

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    Beware of the birds with false presence and broken promises.

Much pain but there is still time.

Believe there is some good out there.

We oppose deceit and the conduit is closing.
 

Sounds like the end times.

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar3.jpg)

I wonder if the following molecule is somehow related to a 3 strand DNA which maybe responsive to the tree of life. 

I just wonder!

continuing with the video

3d face in crop circle
http://www.youtube.com/v/5GAdYwb7AY8&hl=en

Answer from the stars

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar4.jpg)


Crop Circle Spin

http://www.youtube.com/v/KwGaZDeAWqU&hl=en

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar5.jpg) 

Apparently the message is in Hebrew and it says

On the 9th the dragon is Born?? apparently dragon means knowledge, the knowledge of the serpent is born on the 9th...maybe? or the knowledge of the Serpent is BORN on the 9th.

It could mean the 9th month September or 2009...maybe!

or this

or this

# 2012 - 2013: Water Dragon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_(zodiac)

Persons born within these date ranges can be said to have been born in the "year of the Dragon," while also bearing the following elemental sign:

    * 16 February 1904 - 3 February 1905: Wood Dragon
    * 3 February 1916 - 22 January 1917: Fire Dragon
    * 23 January 1928 - 9 February 1929: Earth Dragon
    * 8 February 1940 - 26 January 1941: Metal Dragon
    * 27 January 1952 - 13 February 1953: Water Dragon
    * 13 February 1964 - 1 February 1965: Wood Dragon
    * 31 January 1976 - 17 February 1977: Fire Dragon
    * 17 February 1988 - 5 February 1989: Earth Dragon
    * 5 February 2000 - 23 January 2001: Metal Dragon
   
    * 2024 - 2025: Wood Dragon

  * 2012 - 2013: Water Dragon 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28classical_element%29

  (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Alchemy_water_symbol.svg/64px-Alchemy_water_symbol.svg.png) 




May is the month of the Dragon. The time of the Dragon is from 7:00 a.m. to 8:59 a.m.; their direction of orientation is east-southeast. The Dragon's color is aquamarine.

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from

http://www.youtube.com/v/B8ME51RONEU&hl=en

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 23, 2008, 03:49:34 pm
Hey a sevens UFO formation.

 http://www.youtube.com/v/-ClnC1yfrsQ&hl=en
  (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/sevensUfo.jpg)

ahahahahaha

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 24, 2008, 10:07:11 pm
I just want to come back to this

         
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19:19 In   that day   shall there be   an altar  to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt , and   a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD  .

(Could it be the great pyramid where the great sign is kept?)

19:20 And it shall be   for a sign  and for   a witness  unto   the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt  : for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and  he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
I see so much in this now, in focalisation to the journey, for example "an altar  to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt , and   a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD

In relation to this journey I see the altar as the journey to the ancient places and the truth about cities.  It is a presentation given to the Lord on the altar.  Which appears to be acceptable unto the Lord as the Saviour does come.  This Altar or presentation seems to end at the Great Pyramid in confirmation, in the Midst of Egypt  and the Pillar is the Great Pyramid wherein a symbol was discovered which confirmed the symbolism of the presentation to the Lord, this presentation.  The great Pyramid, the Prophetic monument is at the then border of upper Egypt?  The stone end time story!

and the following really blows me away

"19:20 And it shall be   for a sign  and for   a witness  unto   the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt Exactly in the case of this journey of the ancient cities leading to the great sign in the Pyramid, the triangle/circle seal, the co planar circles, partial concentric circles and the ancient man.  THE SIGN of the Great Pyramid in confirmation and and for a witness, the witness is the witness of the journey to the ancient places and is the witness who discovers the great Triangle/Circle sign and its attached symbolism which confirms his personal journey to the ancient places in connecting symbolism.  The witness is the discoverer.  The fulfillment of the above texts. 

The witness is the witness "unto   the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt"  This journey is the witness to the Lord with all the hidden things revealed.

The best part is yet to come.  For this witness and discoverer of the great Sign seal in the great pyramid, in his message does call upon the Lord for truth of the matter and assistance.  This is the Lords reply "  for they shall cry  unto the LORD   because of the oppressors,(this I know)  and  he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them."

The Lord sends a Saviour and that Saviour is none other than Jesus and Melchizedek.  They respond to the journey, the message and the call for assistance!

I think this is truly an event and the pyramid is a complete record and monument of this time.  NOW!.  This journey in my mind is the fulfillment of the spirit in the message of the great pyramid!  The great physical monument of Mankind with the whole Sevenfold journey contained in design and construction related to the ancient cities in symbolism to the previous Epochs.

This is the Atlantis Rising!

he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them."

Just fabulous this what I expect to come, a great Saviour, our Saviour in truth, knowledge and demonstration! and I believe Jesus and Melchizedek will come to fulfill this beautiful Paradise Sevenfold Journey! 

They will be faithful!  I believe this to be the final outcome of this journey, acceptable to the Lord of Hosts.  Given and presented on the Altar before the Lord in the throne room, the Holy of Holies in spirit and in truth!

Well, Praise ye the Father of Hosts, thats what I reckon!!!  1000%  ahahahahahahahah!

Its a living prophecy in stone!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 06:06:19 am
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DEAD SEA PSALMS
PSALM #6

I give thanks unto Thee, O Lord, for Thou hast freed my soul from the pit,
And drawn me up from the slough of hell to the crest of the world.
So walk I on uplands unbounded and know that there is hope for that which Thou didst mold out of dust to have consort with things eternal.

For lo, Thou hast taken a spirit distorted by sin, and purged it of the taint of much transgression,
And given it a place in the host of holy beings, and brought it into communion with the Sons of Heaven.

Thou hast made a mere man to share the lot of the Spirits of Knowledge,
To praise Thy name in their chorus and rehearseThy wondrous deed before all Thy works.


I, that am molded of clay, what am I?
I, that am kneaded with water, what is my worth?
I, that have taken my stand where wickedness reigns, that have cast my lot with the froward;
Whose soul has lodged like a beggar in a place of wild unrest;

I, whose every step is amid ruin and rout--
On what strength of mine own may I count,
When corruptions snares are laid, and the nets of Wickedness spread,
When far and wide on the waters Frowardness sets her drags,
When the shafts of Corruption fly with none to turn them back,
When they are hurled apace with no hope of escape;
When the hour of judgment strikes,
When the lot of God's anger is cast upon the abandoned,
When his fury is poured forth upon dissemblers,
When the final doom of His rage falls on all worthless things;
When the torrents of Death do swirl, and there is no escape;
When the rivers of Belial burst forth from their banks--
Rivers that are like fire devouring all (. . .),
Rivers whose runnels destroy green tree and dry tree alike,
Rivers that are like fire which sweeps with flaming sparks, devouring all that drink their waters--

A fire which consumes all foundations of clay, every solid bedrock;
When the foundations of the mountains become a raging blaze,
When granite roots are turned to streams of pitch,
When the flame devours down to the deep abyss,
When the roots of Belial burst forth unto hell itself;
When the depths of the abyss are in turmoil and cast up mire in abundance,
When the earth cries out in anguish for the havoc wrought in the world,
When all its depths are aquake, and all that is on it quails and quivers in mighty havoc;
When with His mighty roar God thunders forth,
And His holy welkin trembles, and His glorious truth is revealed,
And the hosts of heaven give forth their voice,
And the world's foundations rock and reel,
When warfare waged by the soldiers of heaven sweeps through the world,
And turns not back until final doom,


— Warfare the like of which has never been.

http://www.world-destiny.org/faith/dss.html

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PSALM #2

I give thanks unto Thee, O Lord, for Thou art my strength and my stronghold,
Thou hast delivered my soul from all works of unrighteousness.
For Thou hast put truth in my heart and righteousness in my spirit,
Along with all gifts of Thy wisdom;
And hast crushed the loins of them that have risen up against me.
Thou bringest me cheer, O Lord, amid the sorrow of mourning,
Words of peace amid havoc, stoutness of heart when I faint,
Fortitude in the face of affliction.



Thou has given free flow of speech to my stammering lips;
Stayed my drooping spirit with vigor and strength;
Made my feet to stand firm when they stood where wickedness reigns.
To transgressors I am a snare, but healing to them that repent,
prudence to the unwary, temperance to the rash.


Thou hast made me a reproach and a derision to them that live by deceit,
But a symbol of truth and understanding to all whose way is straight.

I am become an eyesore unto the wicked, a slander on the lips of the unbridled; scoffers knash their teeth.  hahahahehehe
I am a song unto transgressors, and the hordes of the wicked rage against me;
Like ocean gales they storm which, when their billows rage, cast up mire and dirt.

Yet, Thou hast set me as a banner in the vanguard of Righteousness,
As one who interprets with knowledge deep, mysterious things;
As a touchstone for them that seek the truth,
A standard for them that love correction.


To them that preach misguidance I am but a man of strife;
But to them that see straight, a very symbol of peace.
To them that pursue delusion I am but a gust of zeal;
Men that live by deceit roar against me like the roar of many waters.


Naught is there in their thoughts save mischievous designs.
When opening the fount of knowledge to all that have understanding,
Thou hast set a man's life to rights by the words of Thy mouth,
And hast taught unto him Thy lesson and put understanding in his heart.


But they thrust him back into the pit. In place of these Thy gifts they offer a witless folk stammering lips and barbarous tongue.

Wandering astray, they rush headlong to their doom.


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Col 7: 13-14 [ and all] his [works] You have determined before ever You created him.

Col 9: 7-8   By You[r] wisdom [You have] e[stablish]ed the successive [generations]  and before You created them You knew {all} their works for ever and ever.

Col 9: 23-25 What can I say that is not known and declare that is not told?   Everything is engraved before You with the ink of remembrance for all the times of eternity, for the numbered seasons of eternal years in all their appointed times. 

  Nothing is hidden,  nor does anything exist apart from Your presence.
Just beautiful. 

and this from this

http://www.world-destiny.org/q1/mdssd2.htm

 
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In the renovation of the world God is breaking down those things that were established from of old, and setting up new things that will last forever, Col 5: Line 18.
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What indeed is a mere human that it might have insight . . .,  Col 7: Line 21
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He loves God freely, and with all his heart, Col 7: Line 10.
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Wicked men do not know that the office (service) of this mortal is directed from God, Col 10: Line 22.
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God revealed himself to this servant, Col 12: Line 6. (This does not mean a revelation in vision, but a revelation of understanding.)
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The servant was concealed from the children of men, and God's teaching was hidden in him until the time of salvation, Col 13: Line 11-12.
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The shoot of holiness grew up into a planting of truth. Because it was not known its secret was sealed up, Col 16: Line 10-11.
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God hid this truth until its appointed time, Col 17:24.
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The servant was preserved by God from the time of his conception, and from the womb he was set apart, Col 17: Lines 29-32.
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This protection continued until old age, Col 17: 34.
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His father did not know him, and his mother abandoned him to God, Col 17:Line 35.
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Who will compare to this servant, and who is like him among the heavenly beings, 4Q427, Col i of a fragment, Line 8. His glory is not comparable, and his place is with the heavenly beings, Line 11.
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Created as a pile of dust, so must he return to dust as a vessel of clay: Col 20: Lines 24-28

and this

Thou hast sheltered me, O my God, in the face of all mankind,
And hidden Thy teaching within me, until it be shown unto me that the hour of Thy triumph is come.

 

He has a place among the holy beings of heaven. This function is stated several times, in the fragment from 4Q427 and Column 11 above:

 

There is hope for that which Thou created from the dust for the eternal (secret) council. This staggering spirit Thou hast cleansed from many transgressions so that he might take his stand with the host of the holy beings, and enter in union with the congregation of the sons of heaven. A mere man has everlasting destiny with the Spirits of Knowledge, to praise Thy name in their chorus, and to declare Thy wonders before all Thy works.

As Paul said, Eph 1:9-10 —    For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time,

to   unite all things in him  ,   things in heaven and things on earth. 
   
sevens

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 03:29:14 pm
Just Beautiful,

Ernest Moyers is just spot on and is a prophet for this time and the Father works with him.  No doubt about that!

This man in his work is just beautiful a real man of the Father in the end times.

   http://www.world-destiny.org/faith/elijah.htm   

   
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Mal 3:1-5
3:1 "Behold, I send my messenger to prepare the way before me, and   Yahweh whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple;  the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says Yahweh of hosts. 2 But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?

"For he is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap; 3 he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver,   till they present right offerings to Yahweh.  4 Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to Yahweh   as in the days of old and as in former years. 

5   "Then I will draw near to you for judgment;  I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear falsely,   against those who oppress the hireling in his wages,  the widow and the orphan, against those who thrust aside the sojourner, and do not fear me, says Yahweh of hosts.
   
There is so much in the above that verifies this journey!  Since I read this for the first time so much has occurred and to revisit this work down the timeline is just a beautiful experience.

I say praise the Lord for Ernest Moyers and his work.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 05:08:06 pm
Just look at this one in the confirmation especially in the bold.

 
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At the time of my favor I will answer you; in a day of my salvation I will help you. I have kept you.   I will give you as a covenant for the people, to rouse up the earth, to cause to inherit the forgotten heritages.
 
Saying to the prisoners, 'Come forth,' and to those who are in darkness, 'Show yourselves.' They shall feed along the way; on all the bare heights shall be their pasture.
They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither scorching wind nor sun shall smite them.

For he that has compassion on them (he)
shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.
 
Behold, these shall come from far: and lo, these from the north and from the west; and   these from the land of Sinim. 
 
Sing, for joy, O heavens; and exalt, O earth! Break forth O mountains into singing. For Yahweh has comforted his people, and will have compassion on his afflicted.
   
One confirmation after another!

 http://www.world-destiny.org/faith/ser2.html

And from the Land of Sinim, the great sunburnt country.  YEA!  Where the truth of the Ancient places, the forgotten heritages come from.

Right on! and just look at the advise and the other components.  This is a fulfillment I am positive of that now!

You know   "to cause to inherit the forgotten heritages."  All about the journey to ancient places and those with faith, we will inherit these forgotten ages, the crowns these are our inheritance! 

This is the journey of the End Times and it all comes from Australia, the land of Sinim, the land in the East at the ends of the world and points to this lone outpost of Sevenfold truth.

However, there is another great component to this journey and it lays in the Coastlands another great witness to 1stEden.  I believe the components combined forms the double kingdom that became one reflective of the Kingdom of the Crowns of Semah and Denah!, in type and literal in this time.

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 05:54:51 pm
and

 
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Isaiah 50:4-9

The Lord GOD has given me the tongue of those who are taught, that I may know how to answer the weary.   Morning by morning he wakens me, he wakens my ear to hear as those who are taught. 

  The Lord GOD has opened my ear; I was not rebellious, I did not turn back. 

I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to those   who plucked the beard.  I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
   

  For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore I will not be dishonored. I have set my face like flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. 

  He who vindicates me is near; who will contend with me? Let us stand together.  Who has a charge against me? Let him approach me.

  Behold, the Lord GOD helps me. Who will declare me guilty? Lo, they shall all wear out like a garment; the moth will eat them up.
who plucked the beard.   Wow how annoying ahahahaha

Anyway that was another great confirmation to the journey and the experience as in the witness overtime and what has said daily and discovered!  For years now.

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 06:17:48 pm
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Matt 24:27 ― For as the lightning   comes from the east  and shines as far as the west,   so will be the coming of the Son of man.
and an excerpt from the Damascus document from the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Copied from here

  http://www.world-destiny.org/q1/rescorpscomp.htm 

 
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3:12 . . . Every man doing his own will. Blank But with them that held fast by the commandments of God,

13 [who were left of them], God confirmed the covenant of Israel forever, Revealing unto them

14 the hidden things Wherein all Israel had erred: Blank His holy Sabbaths and His

15 glorious festivals, His righteous testimonies and His true ways, And the desires of His will [the which

16 if a man do, he shall live by them] Blank   He opened before them. And they digged a well of many waters: 

17 And he that despises them shall not live. But they wallowed in the transgression of man, And in the ways of the unclean woman,

18 And they said that it belongs to us. But God wondrously pardoned their sins, And forgave their transgression,

19 And He built them a sure house in Israel [the like of which never arose   from of old   nor until

20 this day]. They who hold fast to him are for the life of eternity,   And all the glory of man (Adam) is for them.  As
   
In above contains fragments relating to this journey!

And this piece about the OFFICE OF THE MESSIAH which is open.

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21 God confirmed it to them through Ezekiel the prophet, saying: (Ezek 44:15) ‘The priests and the Levites and the sons of

4:1   Zadok, that kept the charge of My Sanctuary  when the children of Israel went astray

2 from them, they shall bring near unto Me fat and blood. Blank The priests are the penitents of Israel

3 who went forth out of the land of Judah: and (the Levites are) they who joined them.   And the sons of Zadok are the elect 

4 of Israel called by the name,   that are   holding office   in the end of the days.  Behold the statement

5 of their names according to their generations, and the period of their office, and the number of their afflictions, and the years

6 of their sojournings, and the statement of their works. Blank
   
 

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 06:51:18 pm
From Jane Lead another confirmation

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§ XXVIII. But here it is to be understood, that these do first rise but in the Child-like State, and   so grow up as Christ himself did in Wisdom and Stature  .

  This being as the time of their Minority, they cannot suddenly reach to the full possession of their Inheritance and Kingdom: but as Princely Spirits they will be brought up, and served, according to their high Spiritual Birth-Degree.  As Moses was brought up in all the Learning of the Egyptians, as the Son of Pharaoh’s Daughter,   so shall these Heaven-born Children be taught, disciplin’d and instructed in all the divine Arts in the Royal Court of God their Father, and the new Jerusalem their true Native Mother. 

  From which may be expected the great Deeds and Wonders to be acted forth,  after the manner of Moses, and of the Prophets and Apostles: and that in a degree more eminent and Glorious than all has been heretofore;   because it will be the manifestation of the great Day of Christ’s setting up his Kingdom and Reign here upon Earth, over all Nations and Kingdoms, which yet never has been: but the Prophesies hereof are now at hand to be fulfill’d. 

  Therefore it is foreseen and shewn, that this fiery Horn does forerun the Seventh Angel’s Sounding;  thus to awaken and raise the Dead.

The extent and power of which will be such, and   the Motives so strongly prevailing  as to take hold of the great Potentates, that are in possession of temporal Honours and Riches, Rule and Government.

  All of which they will be convinc’d are much inferiour, and below what the Children of this Kingdom shall come to inherit. 

Where there shall be no Cross  in their Crowns  , no fear of loss or suffering, nor dread of Death. So many are the Prerogatives that do attend this State, that they cannot be number’d.

For they have here   their Pass out  of the Land of Curse, and all Evils and Maladies,   into the Land of all Blessing and Plenty, Peace and Joy.
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their Pass out See they have pass out sin and then into the Kingdom of Heaven.  See there is a path of safety .

http://www.passtheword.org/Jane-Lead/signs.htm

Just beautiful.

and this great little fragment

 
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And   being it is a Matter of that Moment and Concern  ,   wherein God himself requires the clearing up of the deeper, and yet more hidden Reserves of his Good Will and Love  : So by the pure Dictate of his Spirit,   

I shall go on to fix the Pillars and Foundation of the Creation by the Second ADAM, by whom all things are to be renewed
 

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Prerogative
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A Prerogative is an exclusive legal right given from a government or state and invested in an individual or group, the content of which is separate from the body of rights enjoyed under the general law of the normative state. It was a common facet of Feudal law.

In modern popular culture usage, the word prerogative has come to mean the egalitarian condition of the right for anyone's own self-determination, e.g. that it is "one's prerogative" to do as they please.

The state in this foreseen prophecy relates to the realm of Paradise, the submerged countries of the temples of the Father where the Office of the Messiah is located.   In the abyss, its a submerged state newly created and resurrected home of the Universal Fathers.  The crowns are the revealed cites of the 1st and 2nd temples.  The symbol is the circle! beyond number means eternal!

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Where there shall be no Cross in their Crowns  , no fear of loss or suffering, nor dread of Death. So many are the Prerogatives that do attend this State, that they cannot be number’d

I have enjoyed this freedom in the journey! and have declared much.


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 25, 2008, 09:30:18 pm
And here is another book from another Prophets in my View Edmund Roach with good prophecy from the Coastlands, the great land of the USA.

 http://www.inspiredbooks.com/The-Final-Prophet.htm

The link is all about this time and about the journey to the ancient places.

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Isaiah 52:13  "Indeed, My servant shall prosper,
Be exalted and raised to great heights…
Just so he shall startle many nations.
Kings shall be silenced because of him
For they shall see what has not been told them,
Shall behold what they never have heard."
   
 

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Isaiah 52:13  "Indeed, My servant shall prosper,
Be exalted and raised to great heights…
Just so he shall startle many nations.
Kings shall be silenced because of him
For they shall see what has not been told them,
Shall behold what they never have heard."
   
and

 
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Psalm 37

34 Wait on the Lord, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. 35 I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green [8] bay tree. 36 Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.

  37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace  . 38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. 39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the Lord: he is their strength in the time of trouble. 40 And the Lord shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
An here is a link of our great friend and leader Messiah Melchizedek.

 http://www.inspiredbooks.com/Messiah-Melchizedek.htm

I just praise the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven for all these beautiful gifts of truth.

and

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Isaiah 40:3   

A voice rings out:
‘Clear in the desert
A road for the Lord!
Level in the wilderness
A highway for our God…

The Presence of the Lord shall appear
And all flesh shall behold –,
For the Lord Himself has spoken. …
A voice rings out ‘Proclaim!’ …
Ascend a lofty mountain,
O herald of joy to Zion;
Raise your voice to with power, …
Raise it have no fear;
Announce to the cities of Judah Behold your God (Melchizedek)


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Elmer Jessup on April 27, 2008, 02:47:51 pm
Hey Elmer,  its great to hear from you.

I sorry to you for witnessing my outbursts of anger with bad language, I'm not like Jesus in his perfection in personality.  I truly believe that we are in a real testing time at the moment.  Probably more so on those that explore the truth than those who have no idea.

Its unfortunate that certain people want to shut this work down without them realizing it in there actions.  There attacks on this work indirectly and directly are aimed at vulnerabilities that exist in this work, not so much here but in other places.

Its really on a knife edge and the road is so narrow that I cant move and completely vulnerable and that does include income I suppose.  I'm like a lame duck in the living experience of the Father in the journey to the ancient places.

Honestly this is a battle journey to the first places and it is on all multiple fronts and I sit here scribing in the middle with this.  A battle front over there and this front over here and circumstances everywhere.

Its a test for me for I am no super hero like what they portray in the movies just a normal bloke who loves the Father and wants to do a good job for him in a normal man sense with sincerity.  I have weakness everywhere with only the Lord to rest on.

Elmer I really appreciate your prayers I honestly need help and the Father can provide this.  I rest on his help.

All the best Elmer, it was a blessing to hear from you and thanks for your encouragement.

Sevens

sevens,

Don't let any of these jokers discourage you!  The end times are coming, and if they don't want to pay heed of that, they will be deep amidst the suffering when it all happens! 

It's good to see you here, too, just remember, always keep your faith intact! 

Elmer


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 27, 2008, 08:10:37 pm
Praise the Lord Elmer, thank you for your words of encouragement for me in this great almighty journey of truth and discovery of mankind.  I am touched and feel blessed, this is what brotherhood of the body of Jesus is all about and this precise friendship within the body that will be successful in the end times. 

Working for the Father in friendship all together fulfilling roles of soughts with truth, beauty and goodness ever coming closer to the final consummation of truth with all the books opened with there contribution.  From all the prophets of old and to our day having there role. 

Everything else might seem overwhelming but the peace in this journey of truth and discovery is beyond words and to me it is a manifestation of the Father.

I believe all the ancient cities are highways of truth that met there final confirmation in the Great Pyramid built by Imhotep.    We are witness to the linking symbolism with understanding on a journey before the altar of the Lord and of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven. 

There are many preservation schemes being undertaken at this time but the preservation scheme of the Father is a scheme open to all in faith and Jesus provided the answer to success in this, in the beforehand in the journey to great Seventh Mystery in my view, from my personal experience in this documentation.

I believe we are all being lifted into new and great heights supping of the high pastures.  Like in Switzerland ahahahah!

Anyway I think this is a beautiful journey of the highest degree and I feel that many things have been fulfilled scripturally and through extended information throughout out the books related.  I must say The Urantia Book was invaluable to the journey and it did begin with the Urantia Book but in a sense in the first instance it started with the Bible, through proverbs when I used to read it at the age of 8 or 9 and wanted then to be the wisest man on earth and I remember that, those times reading all the proverbs, Psalms and Ecclesiastes  and attempting to apply then in my daily life at school.  OH but then I lost my way somewhere! ahaha but always kept in touch with God throughout the life journey at various times.

And you know what!!  If all being true and correct in the witness of the uncovering the revealing the former ages and if I'm right with the Seventh mystery attached then I would have to be a wise man in this time and mind you Still learning!  ahahah!.  What a journey! and the Father pulled through 100% that all stemmed from those early childhood years of just me the bible and the Father with the angels, already then.  So you see it came and began from the prophets of old from the Great Bible and glory be Eh!  from the Lord in the Bible and the spirit from within.  Later one I went through Bible college at various times keeping in touch with the Melchizedek and Jesus truth of Old and of New.

Only to find the Urantia Book and that explains, from my life experience why I could understand the urantia Book really well, it resonated deep down within me.  I feel my heart click on straight away, I read it without stopping it took me six weeks.  It was one of the greatest times of my life! and that occurred on the Western Pacific on a fishing boat called the M/V Adriatic Sea in the Western Pacific its interesting there is a Dalmatia province in the Adriatic Sea.  How about that for twist!  That year we caught more fish than any year and broke records.  I remember flying, circling around fish thinking about the UB and what I was reading and hearing within me and saying to myself Jesus' words "today a fisherman of fish and tomorrow and fisherman of men" and that is true!  Glory be and great blessing to all the fishermen I worked with, they were all good people.

Its beautiful.  When I come to the part of the ancient places and read about 1stEden in the UB on the boat, I just wanted to discover 1stEden.  Under a full moon light night on the flight deck I wondered about about the ancient places and desired to find the places, already then.  I remember my dedication to find it on that night of realisation and as it happened I got involved over time, another story I provided a service to the journey to 1stEden.  What a blessing!  Glory be to the Father. Praise the Lord for his grandness.

And look where we are! at the end of the great journey in connecting symbolism that lead us to the shaft in the queens chamber to a seal on the plug with understanding in relation to the previous cities of the past.   A journey in the books that began on 2003 thats very same period the Book discovery of Atlantis was released and the first of this record began on the first expedition when simultaneously I was doing a presentation a UB conference linking Plato and the UB and other Books like Enoch to 1stEden.

It was a fine presentation and you know there was something happening in the room, I could feel it while I was talking, simultaneously Robert Sarmast was on the radio presenting himself about the about his book.  It was a simultaneous event about the one place.  I feel the high level representatives of heaven where there in there own way.  Afterwards some people was speking about how to get more readership I mentioned that all will unfold in a mystery, even then.  I didn't know how though as its a journey of faith and faith building!  Thats the demonstration of faith and the Father on the run!  He will reveal on the run causing it to happen through circumstance as seen in the beforehand!

I believe the Victory is ours, today....right now! We have won in truth and found truth! and it led to all the books in understanding with the guidance of the Messiahs of Jesus and the Melchizedek.

The witness of the journey regarding domains and public began around 2005-09 .  I wonder if we are in the  a thousand two hundred and threescore days of the witness??  or if this related to the witnesses?  All I know there is nothing like this on the planet!

Also one of the witnesses must be unto a witness in the midst of Egypt.  As the Great Pyramid involves a witness and and an altar like a dedication.  Could be one and the same witness??  Interesting connection.

According to my calculation based on 2005-09 1230 days takes us to 3rd month 09 around about, but it could be forward to! 

Ah just a thought!

Have we come to the final conclusion to the mystery early? or are we in the right time frame?  The test is in the time to come and its good that we can test these things and see for ourselves in our own perception of truth.

All blessings
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 27, 2008, 09:27:17 pm
What can we find in the bible about witness that might be relevant to this journey to ancient times in truth.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=witness&ver=kjv

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Fragment

Numbers 17

6 And Moses spake unto the children of Israel, and every one of their princes gave him a rod [1] apiece, for each prince one, according to their fathers' houses, even twelve rods: and the rod of Aaron was among their rods. 7 And Moses laid up the rods before the Lord in the tabernacle of witness.

8 And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds. 9 And Moses brought out all the rods from before the Lord unto all the children of Israel: and they looked, and took every man his rod. 10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Bring Aaron's rod again before the testimony, to be kept for a token against the rebels; [2] and thou shalt quite take away their murmurings from me, that they die not. 11 And Moses did so: as the Lord commanded him, so did he. 12 And the children of Israel spake unto Moses, saying, Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish. 13 Whosoever cometh any thing near unto the tabernacle of the Lord shall die: shall we be consumed with dying?

and

Psalm 89:37

It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.

and

Proverbs 12:17

He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.

and

Proverbs 14:5 

A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

and

Proverbs 14:25

A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.

and

Proverbs 21:28

A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.

and

Isaiah 19:20

And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

and

Getting hot

Isaiah 43:9 

Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things?let them bring forth their witnesses,  that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.

and

Isaiah 43:10

Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

and

Isaiah 43:12 

I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God.

and

Isaiah 44:8

Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

and

Isaiah 44:9 

They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses;they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

and

a high honour

Isaiah 55:4

Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

and

Jeremiah 32:10 

And I subscribed the evidence, and sealed it, and took witnesses, and weighed him the money in the balances.

and

Lamentations 2:13

What thing shall I take to witness for thee? what thing shall I liken to thee, O daughter of Jerusalem? what shall I equal to thee, that I may comfort thee, O virgin daughter of Zion? for thy breach is great like the sea: who can heal thee?

and

Micah 1:2 

Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord GOD be witness against you, the Lord from his holy temple.



and

Matthew 18:16   

But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

and

Matthew 23:31   (Read all of Matthew 23)

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

and

John 5:32

There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

and

John 8:18 

I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.


and

John 15:27 

And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

and

John 18:37 

Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

and

Acts 2:32 

This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


and

Acts 26:16   

But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

and

Acts 26:22 

Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

and

Romans 3:21   

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

and

Romans 8:16

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

and

Hebrews 2:4

God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

and

1 John 1:2

(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

and

Revelation 11:3   (Read all of Revelation 11)

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth

Very interesting word search

Remember the outcome of this journey is related to self realisation, a journey that we can all participate in  on the run and is not exclusive.  Its a path that leads to Jesus.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 27, 2008, 11:18:43 pm
Going back to this, Jane Lead

http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,7221.msg78486.html#msg78486

Here is an addition to the post regarding "Perogatives" and completely liberty/freedom in doing what we please in this journey.  This to me shows complete trust in what in how we present this as the Father gives his trust to the elect!

Here is the addition to the above link to the Jane Lead post.

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Prerogative
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A Prerogative is an exclusive legal right given from a government or state and invested in an individual or group, the content of which is separate from the body of rights enjoyed under the general law of the normative state. It was a common facet of Feudal law.

In modern popular culture usage, the word prerogative has come to mean the egalitarian condition of the right for anyone's own self-determination, e.g. that it is "one's prerogative" to do as they please.

and Royal Prerogative
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The Royal Prerogative is a body of customary authority, privilege, and immunity, recognised in common law and, sometimes, in civil law jurisdictions possessing a monarchy as belonging to the King or Queen alone.[1] It is the means by which some of the executive powers of government, possessed by and vested in a monarch with regard to the process of governance of their state, are carried out. Individual prerogatives can be abolished by Parliament, although in the UK a special procedure applies.

In relation to this what the state is relates to the realm of Paradise, the submerged countries of the temples of the Father where the Office of the Messiah is located.   In the abyss, its a submerged state, newly created and the resurrected home of the Universal Fathers on this planet.  In the physical sense!  The crowns are the revealed cites of the 1st and 2nd temples.  The symbol is the circle associated symbols! beyond number means eternal!  The Ream of Paradise is the State of Heaven on Earth in the submerged countries of the Temples!  Where the Lord comes from and confirms!

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Where there shall be no Cross in their Crowns, no fear of loss or suffering, nor dread of Death. So many are the Prerogatives that do attend this State, that they cannot be number’d

The above is about this journey again!  another fulfillment in the action in the beforehand in this individual journey with collaboration from the prophets of the past all people.!

I have enjoyed this freedom in the journey! and have declared much and has blossomed into trees, fruit and Almonds in the witness! so all the murmuring will stop within the body.

The journey could be by Royal prerogatives could be by the Universal Government prerogative, Jesus prerogative.  A universal Revelation by Royal decree, sidestepping the evolutionary way at this time in the consummation of truth. It also means been given the keys of Heaven including its power! 

A big responsibility and given to a mere man as he is risen up to heights of Heaven in revelation in the realms of the Sons of Heaven supping in their pastures. 

Glory be the Lord in the Kingdom of Heaven!  Eh!  How about that trust of the Father in his children guided by his Son Jesus!  The great shepherd!

Its like here you go Son, you take the keys for a time!  Thats whats its like!

I just praise the Lord!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 27, 2008, 11:55:05 pm
You know the key may lay in a 3rd expedition to 1st Eden where the 3 co planar circles can be established on top and at the base of the Acropolis Hill.  That would then point to the 1stTemple in Dalamatia City, Persian Gulf in another great presentation and confirmation.

That would be the ultimate witness wouldn't it!!  That would confirm this journey 1 mile deep of Cyprus.  That maybe the great witness and demonstration of the journey and could very well be the activation in the physical.  The great confirmation.  A witness that stems from the 2nd temple 1stEden and leads to the 1st temple in Dalamatia City and the Great Pyramid through Babel/Dilmun through the Nodite and eventually the Andite culture (Nodite/Adamic admixation) in later Dilmun close to our times and then to the Egypt when Dilmun/Babel was destroyed thus the Great Pyramid and its seal of the ancient times in symbolism parallels as realized.

I suggest the sooner we get out there, the better!

Well, I declare to the Ancients of Days and ask the Arch Angels and all Seraphim's and midwayers of the Sevenfold Mission to open up the path to the 3rd expedition to 1stEden and I pray for assistance for the witnesses in the great confirmation of the ages of mankind, our heritages.  Forthwith, immediately!  please!  Humbly!  This petition has been declared by the Sevens of Urantia/Earth 606 and by the record of his witness to the places of ancient times.

Praise the Lord Father in the Kingdom of Heaven!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 28, 2008, 03:57:11 am
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The Third Heaven
"In the third heaven, he saw the Tree of Life, with four streams, of honey, milk, oil, and wine, flowing from its roots.

The Place of the Righteous is in this heaven and the Terrible Place where the wicked are tortured. There was also the 'place on which God rests when he comes into Paradise'."
     - Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities - Ancient Insights into Modern UFO Phenomena

    It was "a place such as has never been known for the goodliness of its appearance. And I saw all the trees of beautiful colors and their fruits ripe and fragrant, and all kinds of food which they produced, springing up with delightful fragrance. And in the midst (there is) the tree of life, in that place, on which God rests, when He comes into Paradise. And this tree cannot be described for its excellence and sweet odor. And it is beautiful more than any created thing."
         - 2 Enoch

http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/enoch.html

The 4 Streams could be all the cities of importance from ancient times.

Between the times of the 1stTemple Dalamatia City and 1stEden the tree of life was kep in the highland of Iran, Vans highland headquarters.

In the following could be distant reflections of the tree of life in Iranian mythology.  I like to Say the Ahura Mazda is related to Adamson and Ratta.

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/mideast/relzoro2.htm

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The top of high Hara is circled by the stars, moon and sun, from which shower down upon earth both light and life-giving waters. The sun coming out to warm, enlighten and bring day first to the three, and half of the fourth worlds in the west, and then, leaving them as in darkness, it illumines the three and a half on the eastern side of the peak. All the while the 'waters' continuously flow in a wondrous, spiraling sweep through and about the seven karshvars. The Vendidad describes how these cosmic waters and lights periodically issue anew from the peak of Mount Hara, pour down to the sea, Vourukasha, and from there flow forth as two mighty rivers, one to the east and one to the west. These circle the earth and are cleansed, to return first to the Vourukasha sea, and then to the peak of the mountain, again to descend, again reascend, in perpetual motion:

    . . . rising up and going down, up the aerial way and down the earth, down the earth and up the aerial way:
    Thus rise up and roll along! thou in whose rising and growing Ahura Mazda made everything that grows.
    Up! rise up, ye deep Stars, that have in you the seed of waters;
    Rise up above Hara Berezaiti, and produce light for the world (and mayst thou [O man!] rise up there . . ), along the path made by Mazda, along the way made by the gods, the watery way they opened. -- Vendidad, Farg. XXI, iiic

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/Adamsons/13_thumb.jpg)

and

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/Adamsons/12_thumb.jpg)

and

3 co planar circles

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/Adamsons/19_thumb.jpg)

The above description could very well be this location in Iran.  The Kopet Daugh!

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/Adamsons/index.html

and

http://www.artarena.force9.co.uk/cotw.htm

Possible reflection of Vans knowledge through this culture in the highlands of Iran.

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The Persians believed that the world was divided into seven regions or karshvar (keshvar in modern Persian, which means country). These regions were created when rain first fell upon the earth. Humans inhabited the central region (Khvanirath), which was as large as the other six put together. The Bundahishn 1 describes it as follows:

On the nature of the earth, it says in revelation, that there are thirty and three kinds of land. On the day when Tistar [god of rain] produced the rain, when its seas arose therefrom, the whole place, half taken up by water, was converted into seven portions; this portion, as much as one-half, is the middle and six portions are around; those six portions are together as much as Khvaniras. The name keshvar is also applied to them and they existed side by side .... [XI, 1-6]

and this fragment

While Alborz or Mount Hara was the source for both light and water, the Vourukasha Sea is described in the Avesta as the gathering point of water. This important sea occupied 'one third of the earth, to the south, on the skirts of the Harburz' [Vendidad 3 21, 66], and was fed by a huge river, the Harahvaiti. Forming the boundaries of the inhabited world were two great rivers, which flowed out from the sea to the east and the west. The rivers were cleansed as they passed around the earth and, when they returned to the Vourukasha, their clean water was taken back up to the Peak of Hara.

In the middle of the Vourukasha grew the very first tree, the source of all plants, described in the Avesta (Yasht 12, 17) as the Saena Tree, Tree of All Remedies or Tree of All Seeds. This tree held the nest of Saena (Senmurv in Pahlavi, Simurgh in Persian), the legendary bird. Growing nearby was another important plant, the 'mighty Gaokerena', which had healing properties when eaten and gave immortality to the resurrected bodies of the dead.

and this could be a distant reflection of Van and the fall of Adam and Eve.

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The home of the bull was on the bank of the River Veh Daiti (Veh Rod), which flowed to the east from the Vourukasha Sea. On the opposite bank lived Gayomartan (Gayomard in Pahlavi, Kiyumars in the Shahnameh). In Yasht 13, 87 he is described as the first man, as wide as he was tall and as 'bright as the sun'. Gayomartan was slain by Angra Mainyu, but the sun purified his seed and, after forty years, a rhubarb plant grew from it. This plant slowly became Mashya and Mashyanag, the first mortal man and woman. The Evil Spirit, Angra Mainyu, deceived them and they turned to him as the creator, thus committing the first sin. Their world was now filled with corruption and evil, instead of peace and harmony. It was only after fifty years that they were able to produce offspring. However, the first twins were eaten by their parents. After a long period of childlessness another set of twins was finally born, and from these sprang not only the human race, but also specifically the Iranian peoples.


(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansHighland_thumb.jpg)

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansHighland.jpg

Very interesting.

And this river flows to the West into the Caspian Sea if you follow Worldwind, its a literal written clue to the location of Vans highland headquarters and Valley of the Seven division flows into the East /West River identifying the Valley of Van where the tree of life was kept in between time of the destruction of Dalamatia City and 1stEden of Which Van built and identified by the 3 coplanar circles in each location.

Praise the Lord.

Definitely Along the ATREK RIVER in that Narrow valley in the Kopet Daugh! Like Star TREK ahahaha

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2005/04.07/13-irandig.html

Just looking around

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Qajar dynasty

Origins
The Qajar rulers were members of the Quvanlu clan of the Qajars, originally themselves members of the Oghuz branch of the larger Turkmen peoples[4][5][6]. Qajars first settled during the Mongol period in the vicinity of Armenia and were among the seven Qizilbash tribes that supported the Safavids [7]. The Safavids "left Arran (present-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to local Turkish khans" [8], and, "in 1554 Ganja was governed by Shahverdi Soltan Ziyadoglu Qajar, whose family came to govern Karabakh in southern Arran" [9].

Qajars filled a number of diplomatic missions and governorships in the 16-17th centuries for the Safavids. The Qajars were resettled by Shah Abbas I throughout Persia. The great number of them also settled in Astarabad (present-day Gorgan, Iran) near the south-eastern corner of the Caspian Sea[5], and it would be this branch of Qajars that would rise to power. The immediate ancestor of Qajars, Shah Qoli Khan Qajar Qovanlu of the Qovanlus of Ganja, married into the Qovanlu Qajars of Astarabad. His son, Fath Ali Khan Qajar, born circa 1685-1693, was a renowned military commander during the rule of the Safavid shahs Husayn and Tahmasp II. He was killed on the orders of Tahmasp Qoli Khan Afshar (Nader Shah) in 1726. Fath Ali Khan's son Mohammad Hassan Khan Qajar (1722-1758) was killed at the behest of Karim Khan Zand, and was the father of Agha Mohammad Khan and Hossein Qoli Khan (Jahansouz Shah) Qajar (father of "Baba Khan," the future Fath Ali Shah Qajar).

perhaps some distant reflection of Van in names.

Within 126 years between the demise of the Safavid state and the rise of Nasir al-Din Shah, the Qajars evolved from a shepherd-warrior tribe with strongholds in northern Persia into a Persian dynasty with all the trappings of a Perso-Islamic monarchy.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qajar

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansHighland1_thumb.jpg)

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansHighland1.jpg




Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 29, 2008, 02:43:42 am
I thought this was interesting, I dont know what it means but the 3 co planar circles and triangles in threes looks interesting

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/coPlanar6.jpg)

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 29, 2008, 08:28:21 pm
Hey have a laugh

   my google video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8165781160293496516&hl=en) 

I wish I had a better voice ahahahahaha

Thats all my camera card could handle a poultry 29 seconds.

Oh well its a start.

Like they say in the Land of Sinim you never know if you dont have a go!

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 30, 2008, 06:44:18 pm
They call this a Babylonian world map but look at the symbols.  What do they mean?

    (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/worldMap.jpg)

and the same sign in the Inca lands, a connection of the Mesopotamian Babylonian and the Inca lands

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/triangle4.jpg)

The sign of Andite and Inca admixation in symbolism.

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 01, 2008, 07:53:53 am
Vans Highland Temple
(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansHighland1_thumb.jpg)

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansHighland1.jpg

And another close up of the temple area that resembles a circles in a triangular shape.

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vanTemple_thumb.jpg)

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansTemple.jpg (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vansTemple.jpg)

and unmarked

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vanTemple1_thumb.jpg)

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vanTemple1.jpg

Read about Van the steadfast in the UB

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper67.html#6.%20VAN--THE%20STEADFAST

and some fragments of this location.

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PAPER 77 - THE MIDWAY CREATURES, Oct 19 2000

    * line 123: This center of civilization was situated in the region east of the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short way up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range, there successively arose at various periods four diverse cultures respectively fostered by four different groups of Adamson's descendants. It was the second of these groups which migrated westward to Greece and the islands of the Mediterranean. The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated north and west to enter Europe with the blended stock of the last Andite wave coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered among the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.

PAPER 78 - THE VIOLET RACE AFTER THE DAYS OF ADAM, Oct 19 2000

    * line 34: 1. The violet race--Adamites and Adamsonites. The chief center of Adamite culture was in the second garden, located in the triangle of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers; this was indeed the cradle of Occidental and Indian civilizations. The secondary or northern center of the violet race was the Adamsonite headquarters, situated east of the southern shore of the Caspian Sea near the Kopet mountains. From these two centers there went forth to the surrounding lands the culture and life plasm which so immediately quickened all the races.

and

5. ADAMSON AND RATTA

Having delineated the Nodite antecedents of the ancestry of the secondary midwayers, this narrative should now give consideration to the Adamic half of their ancestry, for the secondary midwayers are also the grandchildren of Adamson, the first-born of the violet race of Urantia.

Adamson was among that group of the children of Adam and Eve who elected to remain on earth with their father and mother. Now this eldest son of Adam had often heard from Van and Amadon the story of their highland home in the north, and sometime after the establishment of the second garden he determined to go in search of this land of his youthful dreams.

Adamson was 120 years old at this time and had been the father of thirty-two pure-line children of the first garden. He wanted to remain with his parents and assist them in upbuilding the second garden, but he was greatly disturbed by the loss of his mate and their children, who had all elected to go to Edentia along with those other Adamic children who chose to become wards of the Most Highs.


Here is another view.  I can visualize what the place looked like. Note the circle and the cross with small hills within each quadrant

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/vanTemple2_thumb.jpg)

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In these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range,

You have to read the UB very carefully

There are 2 components in the above fragment.  The highland sites which adjoins a long narrow fertile valley in the Kopet Daugh mountains

The above images confirm this in my opinion.

Looks very prominent in this view and protected from all sides.  There appears to be a wall that seems very straight and symmetrical offering protection in the Northern side.  It appears to be a hidden valley and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some hot springs being a volcanic area.

One would have to go there to verify but it looks very compelling.

and this fragment

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Now this eldest son of Adam had often heard from Van and Amadon the story of their highland home in the north, and sometime after the establishment of the second garden he determined to go in search of this land of his youthful dreams.

another reference to a highland home which the above images confirm being in a hidden highland site, there home and the location of the the tree of life.

I'm absolutely sure that place was designed to reflect some common symbolism that would be recognized. at some stage in the future.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 01, 2008, 07:48:32 pm
Ok Im concentrating on this fragment from the UB especially in bold.

All info outside the UB comes from the Wikipedia


     
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The Urantia Book Fragment

This center of civilization was situated in the region east of the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short way up in the   foothills of Turkestan   are the vestiges of what was onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range,


the wikipedia
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Turkestan (Persian: ترکستان; also spelled Turkistan or Türkistan in Turkish, which literally means "Land of the Turks" in Persian) is a region in Central Asia, which today is largely inhabited by Turkic peoples. It has been referenced in many Turkic and Persian sagas and is an integral part of Turan (though Turan dwarfs Turkestan in area). Oghuz Turks (also known as Turkmens), Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Khazars, Kyrgyz and Uygurs are some of the Turkic inhabitants of the region who, as history progressed, have spread further into Eurasia forming such Turkic nations as Turkey, Azerbaijan and Russian Tatarstan. Tajiks and Russians form sizable non-Turkic minorities.

It is subdivided into Afghan Turkestan,   Russian Turkestan  and Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (also known as Chinese Turkestan, East Turkestan or Uyghuristan) in PR China. The Tian Shan and Pamir ranges form a rough division between the latter two.   

and the history

History

    Further information: History of Central Asia

Turkestan has a rich history, dating back to the third millennium BC. Many artifacts were produced in that period, and much trade was conducted. The region was a focal point for cultural diffusion, as the Silk Road traversed it.

Turkestan covers the area of Central Asia that corresponded to eastern Scythia, Transoxania and   Greater Khorasan in Antiquity  , and acquired its "Turkic" character from the 4th to 6th centuries AD with the incipient Turkic expansion.

Turkic Sagas, such as the Ergenekon, and written sources such as the Orkhon Inscriptions state that Turkic peoples originated in the nearby Altay Mountains, and, through nomadic settlement, started their long journey westwards.

Successive external powers have held the region. Greeks, under Alexander the Great, held the area from 327 BC to 150 BC.

Huns conquered the area after they conquered Kashgaria in the early 2nd century BC. With the dissolution of the Huns' empire, Chinese rulers took over Eastern Turkestan[1].

Arab forces captured it in the 8th century. The Persian Samanid dynasty subsequently conquered it and the area experienced economic success[1].

The entire territory was held at various times by Turkic forces, such as the Göktürks until the conquest by Genghis Khan and the Mongols in 1220. Khan gave the territory to his son, Chagatai and the area became the Chagatai Khanate[1].

Tamerlane took over the area in 1369 and the area became the Timurid Empire[1].
I was interested in this   "Greater Khorasan in Antiquity"   

and Here is information on   Greater Khorasan 

     
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Greater Khorasan (Persian: خراسان بزرگ) (also written Khorasaan, Khurasan and Khurasaan) is a modern term for eastern territories of ancient Persia since the 3. century A.D.. Khorasan is a Pahlavi word which means "the land of sunrise". Greater Khorasan included territories that presently are part of Afghanistan, Iran, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and areas in modern-day Pakistan[1].

Greater Khorasan contained mostly Nishapur and Tus (now in Iran), Herat, Balkh, Kabul and Ghazni (now in Afghanistan), Merv and Sanjan (now in Turkmenistan), Samarqand and Bukhara (both now in Uzbekistan), Khujand and Panjakent (now in Tajikistan) and Balochistan[citation needed] (now in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran).

These days, the adjective greater is partly used to distinguish it from Khorasan province, in modern-day Iran, that forms western parts of these territories, roughly half in area [2]. It is also used to indicate that Greater Khorasan encompasses territories that were perhaps called by some other popular name when they were individually referred to. For example Transoxiana (covered Uzbekistan and Tajikistan), Bactria, Kabulistan [3] , Khwarezm (containing Samarkand and Bukhara) [4] .
   
and look at this in the Wikipedia

     
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  Khurasan in the Hadiths and prophecies of Mohammad 

The prophet of Islam, Muhammad, mentioned the country Khurasan many times concerned to the islamic/devine prophecies over the future.

In the country Khurasan in Taluqan (northern Afghanistan) that at that place are treasures of Allah, but these are not of gold and silver but consist of people who have recognised Allah as they should have. (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman, p.59)

Further: [...] The Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them over." This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away. Their ‘Tawbah’ (Repentance) will never be accepted. One-third will be killed. They will be the best 'Shaheed' (martyrs) near Allah. The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight against Kufr (non-believers). This group will belong to Khurasan. They will be wearing black turbans. People will rise up from the East who will keep on coming forward, trampling the ground under the feet, to the aid of Imam Mahdi to help establish his government. (Ibn Majah) From Khurasan will emerge black flags, whom none will be able to turn back (and they, the flag bearers, will continue moving forward) till they reach Illya (Jerusalem) and embed their flags into its earth. (Tirmizi) In the era preceding Qyamah the Christians will control/govern the whole world. The Christians will reach Khaybar (Place in present day Saudi close to Madina. (Hadith quoted in Bab-al-Qeyamah by Muhaddith Shah Rafee-ud-din)".

Prophet Mohammad: "Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient. Then the Black Banners will appear from the East and they will kill you in a way that has never before been done by a nation." Thawban, a companion said: 'Then he said something that I do not remember by heart' then continued to say that the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, said: "If you see him give him your allegiance, even if you have to crawl over ice, because surely he is the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi. If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan, join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice, for this is the army of the Caliph, the Mahdi and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem."

Related by Abu Hurayrah: Prophet Mohammad said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)

On the authority of Thawbaan, the Messenger of Allah said: "If you see the Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately, even if you must crawl over ice, because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi." [Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim, Ahmad]

Amr ibn Hurayth quoted AbuBakr as-Siddiq as saying that Allah's Messenger told them the Dajjal would come forth from a land in the East called Khurasan, followed by people whose faces resembled shields covered with skin.
 
Here is the Map of Turkestan
        (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Central_Asia_borders4.png) 

Which includes the location of Van and Amadon highland home within the long narrow valley within Turkestan in the province of   "Khurasan" 

Also note the Urantia Book written was recorded in 1934. I think this definitely points to the location including the prophecies attached.  Its all a matches and is consistent.

What about those prophecies!  Eh!  That was interesting! considering the conversation and what we have discovered.  Very, very interesting!

Just say if this journey to the places including the message from "Khurasan" was the message of the real Mahdi, I wonder how they in "Khurasan" would take the this particular journey to God especialy when the things that we/I have established.  Eh!

They would all have to turn from violence on anyone no matter who!  That would be the first message and directive from the office of the Messiah!

But then I wonder if they would have enough intelligence and spirituality to recognize and to obey!!  Another Test for Islam and especially Persia!  Eh!

And for those in Iran to learned the truth here is a link for them and for those in "Khurasan" province.

http://www.starcomone.com.au/farsi

Part of the Office of the Messiah which includes the Mahdi of the Islam religion.  This link is for them and the true path to Paradise for them in fulfillment in truth, beauty and goodness. 

Nothing else is required.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 02, 2008, 02:21:57 am
Whilst the above post may seem a little silly to some or the majority The ancients of Days and the Universal Hierarchy may take it this proclamation very very serious and I wouldn't underestimate anything....nothing!.

The Islam prophecy for the area may appear to aggressive and violent but in real truth in accordance to the way I see it.  I believe its a spiritual army of no violence, it should never be interpreted on the basis of violence.

The Mahdi is the leader of a spiritual army, no different to Zion army that must commit no violence and abandon all forms of destruction.

Only in new truth replacing non truth, non truth in reality is all to do with violence and destruction against any brother.

How the Mahdi Army wins is through the truth of no violence and does run in parallel to the will of the Father and Jesus.  The only way the Mahdi army will ever hope to win anything is through NO Violence.

Paradise does accept violence and the Ancients of Days are absolutely serious about this.  Honestly, if people forsake the truth an continue the road of violence they will be in breach of the will of Paradise/The Father and will not make into Paradise!  This is absolute.

This can be backed up in the Book of Enoch.

I would strongly suggest that the various so called Mahdi Army in Iraq including Al Sadrs groups, Al Queda and others in the surrounding area must desist from Violence and lay down the arms and negotiate a peace settlement.  Every Mahdi army member should go back to there family and relearn the truth from all the books of the prophets in all cultures focalised on the ancient places as discovered including the highland capital in Khorasan where another section of the Planetary truth comes from and will be further established.

I would say this would be a direct command from Paradise.

I can assure you if this occurred then the Western Alliance will also seek for peace and then peace will come into the land.

If this is disobeyed, then one forfeits there own Paradise quest.

Point blank period!

I just want to say that if the true Mahdi Army of non violence arises they will incorporated in the spiritual Office of the Messiah including the spiritual army of Zion of NO VIOLENCE represented by Jesus and Melchizedek and this will destroy Dajjal,  remembering Dajjal works specifically in creating division amoungst man.

Zion is not exclusive club built by one race only, but is a spiritual army of truth that incorporates all man from all cultures, has nothing to do with race as the truth in the End Times. The truth of the End times comes from the so called Gentiles which incorporates all man in definition including the Jews. This is the inquiry of mans souls regardless of race. Race has nothing to with anything in this case but the soul of an individual all related to attitude!

The requirements of the end times is small and narrow!

It is truly the time now to understand our other brothers and its through unity in the truth of the matter that all man should be looking into.

Honestly, we have to learn and especially to understand our fellow brother.  That is the way to destroy terrorism and Dajjal/Caligastia the last rebel.


Regards
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 02, 2008, 02:57:13 am
The requirements of the end times is a small and narrow path but gee its mighty and powerful in Paradise truth and has all backing!

Also I want to add another directive from the Office of the Messiah for the Mahdi Army and for everyone else who breaches this.

"Absolutely no violence what so ever against Women, any interpretation that approves of women beating,  stoning and body castration is strictly forbidden and false.  Utterly!  To do these things to women is an absolute offense to Paradise!

Those who disobey this will be punished! 

Women are mans equal partner and are the Mothers of our children and should be held in the upmost respect, not some slave to be pushed around!

Women are civilisation builders in many aspects that man should appreciate NOW and love her in all ways and unconditionally with the love of Jesus and the Father.

Women is the equal help partner in life, in type of Man and Jesus working together and the relationship should be based on that standard, on the highest standards of the Universe and Paradise!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 02, 2008, 03:48:57 am
Everyone has to take responsibility for there own actions and cannot fore go responsibility in untruth that is unrealistic and cannot be proven nor established in truth.

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 02, 2008, 08:18:50 pm
Im having a crack at some of the prophecies of Khorason as mentioned by Mohammad.

I was interested in this fragment.

   
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In the country Khurasan in Taluqan (northern Afghanistan) that at that place are   treasures of Allah, but these are not of gold and silver but consist of people who have recognised Allah as they should have.  (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman, p.59)   
I tend to feel that is all relates to the great discovery in the images and realisation of Vans/Amadons/Adamsons highland homeland in North Eastern Iran and is part of the journey of the path of the tree of life in past ages.   The discovery is not of material gold but is representative of truth in the highest level as discovered in cooperation of what is written in the new book. 

The source/base information leading to this discovery is from a book written by the angels for mankind's future destiny.  The book and the journey of its words raises a people who has the right relationship with God on the spiritual level and it marks the truth of Paradise with the intent of love one another, the true way that all should of followed in the past.

The Urantia Book is book specifically tailored by the angels for Islam and Christianity alike and designed to compliment, not to replace but to extract the truth out of each book in the demonstration in the oneness and unity of truth in the discovery and verification in each book.

It is the new book of Allah that Islam should investigate in matters. 

The Urantia Book has proven itself in the journey and stands alone from all religion.  It is truly independent and of Paradise authorship and has helped fulfill prophecy in each book.

But compellingly, the Urantia Book extracts the truth fragments out of each book to form a unity of truth in the journey of discovery being led by the book and which incorporates all the books of religion being opened in this time concerning mankind.

Concerning Islam, the Urantia Book is the new uplift of Islam and Christianity alike to form the unity of the One God religion in completion throughout the world with greater definition and wider understanding.

This is the big mystery and the eye opener for man.  The only thing that prevents unity is pride and prejudice and inability to learn in light of the facts.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 02, 2008, 09:44:49 pm
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The Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them over." This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away. Their ‘Tawbah’ (Repentance) will never be accepted. One-third will be killed. They will be the best 'Shaheed' (martyrs) near Allah. The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight against Kufr (non-believers). This group will belong to Khurasan

Well the above appears to reflect the current climate of the war of Islam with Christian based civilizations.  Seems obvious.

I'm discounting the opinions or interpretations within the fragment as I see differently in relation to this journey.  These interpretations have created wars like this where things have  been taken out of context leading death and destruction which is not the way of paradise in the level I see the opinions as erroneous!

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The Christians will demand their wanted people, to which the Muslims will answer: "By Allah! They are our brothers. We will never hand them over."
  This seems reflect the demand for the ring leaders of terrorism sought out by the west in this current climate of war. "They are our brothers. We will never hand them over."  There is resistance to this demand which is understandable!
This will start the war. One-third Muslims will run away The resistance begins a war like this current war, 1/3 will be killed another 1/3 will run from war and will not participate but should not be condemned as they refugees from war.

"The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,they will fight against Kufr (non-believers).  This group will belong to Khurasan." 

The other 1/3 who gets the victory could very well be those who embrace the truth that comes out of "Khurasan."  You know the ancient places.  The truth of the path of the tree of life of NO VIOLENCE, the ones who discover and embrace the truth.  The ones who work for truth, beauty and goodness towards all man as all man are blood brothers, same species.  This the truth, from "Khurasan." that claims the victory in truth!  Now this group from  "Khurasan." of the Highland Capital of Van embraces all man and walks in parallel with other brothers of other religions who are also affected by the great realisation.  This would be the forming of the unity of man and the Father arising. 

"under the leadership of Imam Mehdi,"  Obviously there is an individual who will discover the treasure of "Khurasan." and through his discovery of the real hidden truth he will guide the remaining 1/3 against ignorance and division and will will win and will be in unity with other religions as it should be.  "Khurasan." is the land of the Sunrise where great spiritual treasures will be found and is related to planetary destiny!  The truth will arise from "Khurasan."  like in the discovery and truth of Vans highland home.  "The remaining one-third will gain victory, until, under the leadership of Imam Mehdi, they will fight against Kufr (non-believers)."  This should not be interpreted as fight against Christianity nor against other religions as we both follow the one God in our own way through various religions.  Islam is part by product of Judaism and of Christianity particularly the early Eastern Christian church thats why there is many commonalities that can be shared more than differences in truth.

The real fight is against ignorance and arrogance with truth in a non violent peaceful way that is good witness to any man showing respect and tolerance towards one another.  In truth the Kufr is not Christianity nor other religions.  Not at all, I believe that is a erroneous interpretation  used in wrong justification for war and destruction leading man in the wrong path.

"This group will belong to Khurasan. They will be wearing black turbans. People will rise up from the East who will keep on coming forward, trampling the ground under the feet, to the aid of Imam Mahdi to help establish his government."  The group from Khurasan will have the best truth of all good things.  The black turbans I think is a fashion statement of that time held on to.  In metaphor the Black Turban represents an ensign a symbol.  The Imam has symbols in his advent that can be recognized and that is the symbols of the circles.  The Imam comes from the East in which fulfills this journey coming from the extreme east from the Land of Sinim.  Kangaroo country in cooperation with the coastlands and with the all the prophets and seers of old even in recent times.  The message coming from the east, land of Sinim and attached to "Khurasan" in discovery linked with perfection of oneness.  "People will rise up from the East who will keep on coming forward,"  People, (anyone) will continue to embrace, it will not stop, momentum in truth embrace continues and again comes from the east.  The true Mahdi army will not trample upon man but will instead uplift man in higher realms of thinking with the truth! and nothing but the truth!  In essence trampling on ignorance with truth but not physically trampling man as that is deemed as an offense to Paradise according to the plumb line that has been set by Paradise!  This truth will establish the true spiritual government of the Imahdi or the Paradise government of the Father on earth.  The Mahdi is a representative of Paradise with a non violent government with the ensign of truth as its symbol.

"From Khurasan will emerge black flags, whom none will be able to turn back (and they, the flag bearers, will continue moving forward) till they reach Illya (Jerusalem) and embed their flags into its earth."  Yes, the truth led by the Ensign of truth will reach Jerusalem and plant its emblem in the soil of Jerusalem.  This is NOT due to some war in the physical but in non violent truth where the truth will reach Jerusalem and this case the emblem is the 3 concentric circles, the Melchizedek of Salem.

In metaphor, in this level of the journey, the truth comes from "Khurasan" and ends in Jerusalem the home of the Melchizedek when on earth.  All related with the right symbols and the Melchizedek is the rightful Planetary Prince of this Planet.

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"Prophet Mohammad: "Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient. Then the Black Banners will appear from the East and they will kill you in a way that has never before been done by a nation."

"Before your treasure, three will kill each other -- all of them are sons of a different caliph but none will be the recipient."
  This seems to reflect the groups under different leadership in Islam fighting the war of death and destruction.  To me this points directly to Al Queda, The Taliban and perhaps the current Mahdi army in Iraq and any one supporting terrorism including countries.  This tells me and backed up in the Book of Enoch that there quest will all fail and they will receive nothing for their efforts from Paradise.  If they turn back now and lay down there arms and follow the peace path and relearn the truth then they might come out of it successfully regarding Paradise.  But at the moment they are not within the enclave of Paradise in truth!

It obvious that they wont listen to the message and continue the error of death and destruction and loose everything even there there after life.  3 caliphs means 3 leaders in Islam that are in error using death and destruction with wrong interpretation used as justification for death!  However, whilst this is all happening a new an revitalized resurrected truth comes to pass with the right ensign and with truth as the vanguard representative of the truth of Paradise that will be successful even unto Jerusalem.

And here are some cooperating fragments

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Related by Abu Hurayrah: Prophet Mohammad said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasan (Afghanistan). No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Jerusalem where they will erect their flags." (Tirmidhi)

On the authority of Thawbaan, the Messenger of Allah said: "If you see the Black Banners coming from Khurasan go to them immediately, even if you must crawl over ice, because indeed amongst them is the Caliph, Al Mahdi." [Narrated on authority of Ibn Majah, Al-Hakim, Ahmad]

(Advised to embrace the real truth of Paradise from arises out of "Khurasan"

Amr ibn Hurayth quoted AbuBakr as-Siddiq as saying that Allah's Messenger told them the Dajjal would come forth from a land in the East called Khurasan, followed by people whose faces resembled shields covered with skin.

Dajjal also appears to be present working his confusion in "Khurasan" and related areas currently.  There appears to be 2 powers in the area, the army of confusion, death and destruction based on wrong interpretations with its opposing force and the forces of Paradise that come from the ancient places as the real opposing force to eror in truth from Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven.

Well its all happening in my view!


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 05, 2008, 06:27:38 am
There seems some that agree with rapture and some that dont

I thought this was an interesting view point about rapture

     http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=2126717650962714847&hl=en     

There seems to be mention of a secret rapture, I wonder if this is related to the ancient places since only a very few know about the places?

and here is another viewpoint that disagrees with rapture.

     http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1345977691961557857&hl=en     

All views and points raised are good points but I tend to feel there is a rapture that is very specific like this journey.

Im really wondering about this secret rapture thought, the activation that is not well known. The journey to the former things is a journey where either you believe or dont? and very few people will look into or have faith in it for that matter.

Its one of these journeys, you either believe it or not, maybe associated with the secret rapture so to speak as some/few people are speaking about.

It could be the activation of the secret rapture and appears to make sense to me. real sense but everything has to be tested.

But you have to make up your own mind and that's the beauty about this journey you are free to do so.

Jesus did say what has been hidden shall be revealed. Nothing will be kept hidden and that means the former things, the ancient places.

Here is some rapture thoughts from an Islamic researcher. He raises interesting points that seem contradictory with Bias to in some respects.

     http://www.youtube.com/v/Te3dtyBYlLg&hl=en     

The people who killed Jesus was not whole of Israel or all the Jews but the system of the ruling  Pharisees and the Sanhedrin at the time. I believe the religious adminstrators at that time where in it for self interest in the monoplolisation of religion and the temple currency!  The attitude was simply was an abomination as far as Jesus was concerned.  However, there where many that believed in Jesus' truth in Israel at the time.  The author of the video is generalizing to much and taking things out of prospective about the death of Jesus and who killed him.  It wasnt the whole nation but the religious power brokers at the the time.  In many senses its no different today where currency is monopolised to the point where this monopolisation enslaves man.   Modern slavery as what we have today in this world of the end times through compounding interest.


Many of the Jewish scholars today are beginning to see that Jesus is the Messiah and the Melchizedek is a Messiah as well.  They are both Messiahs where each helps the other in the quest of truth!

To me it clearly highlights that a correction of truth has to occur to correct all perceptions. I think this journey does it and is a stand alone journey but connected to all books. I believe its the demonstration!

It was good to hear the Islamic prospective and we should mindful of all things because there maybe some clues there to.

Note the triangle circle chevron in the last video!!! ahahaha

What a hint that is! Consider, where the author of the last video doesn't not realize the significance of the triangle/circle chevron symbol in this journey of symbolism connected to the submerged cities where truth meets symbol.

It seems to me that some thing new comes in the middle that does connect and makes all sense and touches the heart of all the truth in each religion.

ahahahahah


Now here is an Islamic Video on the Last Mehdi which would be akin to the last messenger before Jesus comes to destroy Dajjal.

You will note that the interpretation of this is seen in a physical war like fashion which you would understand!

However from my prospective, in relation to the ancient former places I see the following interpretation as spiritual of truth uncovering truth. Where the truth from places swallow up in truth, false interpretations through a demonstration for all the countries where the ancient places are and verified.  Actual change comes from these places where people follow the truth in a spiritual sense abandoning war.

In truth the Last Mehdi is not a physical war or army but a truth army from Paradise/Kingdom of heaven and demonstrates itself in truth which does actually conquer in truth!

     http://www.youtube.com/v/VyO_4Gndc-k&hl=en     

I might listen more to these videos as they informs of what other religions see and maybe we can find more clues looking from our prospective of the former places.

Mind you the last battle is around the 1Eden area within the triangle of truth.

I see many commonalities here and its all comes from these countries.

In the following video he speaks of a faction from Christianity that joins the Mehdi army.

To me this may point to this journey where this stand alone truth unites Islamic people and Christianity alike. Ive said this before. But I dont think its a physical battle but a spiritual battle of enlightenment that change the minds of people and circumstance. Where the message of the truth vanquishes false ideas like terrorism and other spiritual and physical illegal acts.

I think the truth is spiritual and physical. Its a battle of truth that comes from an independent source like Paradise in the middle of two religions that forms a unity where Christians and Islamic join the army of truth and do conquer through enlightenment and truth and dont go to war physically.

That's my thought

     http://www.youtube.com/v/6Ea4iz1i3fo&hl=en     

Interesting videos though and many clues that I feel verify the journey!

Personaly, I think the Mehdi is a person who embraces the Urantia Book and all the Books of religion in finding the ultimate truth and Seventh Mystery through discovery and truth.

Thats my view whilst on the journey to the places of the Ancients.

And here is the characteristics of the Last Mehdi

Interesting!

     http://www.youtube.com/v/WoIFeTwUQhs&hl=en     


and another Video which I thought interesting to!

     http://www.youtube.com/v/8tNjI44s1S0&hl=en     

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 05, 2008, 03:03:59 pm
The interesting thing about the above post is that the 2 main religions believe that there is an End Times but I feel the truth will come about the end times and that will be the truth and the right version in the outcome.

I think both religions have the keys to the truth and the keys in the out work will be the correction in the actual reality and that will be the truth for both religions in the unity of truth.

Remember the origins of Islam ultimately comes from Abner with the Seventy of the ex John the Baptist followers.  And Jesus will honor the truth in there books to.  But I feel its a spiritual outwork in reality rather than war, a physical war.

I believe its just the truth displaceing error in the interpretation and I feel the ultimate truth will come from an independent source and is related to both religions and touches the heart of both religions in the spiritual.

About Rome being overcome, I believe the Catholic church through there investigation will recognise the truth.  thats all it is a realisation not war in the sense of a physical war!  I believe its through the truth that the church will be overcome where truth meets symbol.

I believe thats all it is!  Spiritual realisation of the times and places of the ancients of our past world linked to today in discovery.  The demonstration!

regards
sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 06, 2008, 08:16:07 pm
Hey Elmer, my brother

Guess what!

Im excited all of a sudden there maybe a financial backer who is interested in funding an expedition to Dalamatia City.

Praise the Lord.

You know I have creditors that are simply not paying there bill and after a sleepless night tossing and turning thinking about everything I was feeling very stressed, downtrodden and broke. Just no sleep!

This morning I spoke to a friend of mine returning a phone call and explained what I was doing in regards to the ancient places and low and behold interest and who has the funds.

We might very well get there to prove the case of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Praise the Lord, I love the Lord God almighty!

Now the real test of everything that I've been saying begins. Thank the Lord and the beautiful Sevenfold mission.
Praise the Lord!

I cant help praising the Father of Paradise and the Universal Government of the Ancients of Days and especialy Jesus my friend and saviour.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 07, 2008, 09:44:47 pm
I found this timeline thing interesting relating to the word  Iran .

The recording of the Urantia Book as I understand finished in1934 ...right!

Here are references to the word Iran in the Urantia Book.

         http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=iran         

and here is word search on Persia.

         http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=Persia   

and the keyword Persian

 http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=persia&submit=Submit       

and here is the Date when the name Iran was adopted  one year later  after the recording of the Urantia Book.

         
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The country has always been known to its own people as Iran (land of the Aryans),  although for centuries it was referred to as Persia  (Pars or Fars, a province in southern Iran) by the Europeans, mainly due to the writings of Greek historians.  In 1935 the Government specified that it should be called Iran; however, in 1949 they allowed both names to be used.

      http://www.artarena.force9.co.uk/history.html
       
Dont you find it curious that after the urantia book was recorded the Nation of Persian one year later officialy called themselves Iran.

I find that an interesting demonstration also the Urantia book uses both words Persian and Iran.

and look at this interesting Iranian proverb in relation to the journey to the ancient places.

   
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"History is a mirror of the past
(A Persian Proverb) [/size]
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 07, 2008, 09:47:27 pm
(http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/05/05/westminster460x276.jpg)

                    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/05/archaeology.art                   

How fascinating Ishtar.

The symbol appears to be a diamond with a central circle and 4 circles surrounding within the diamond.

Anyway that you look at it, it forms the familiar co planar circles.

Unreal to me has all the features of this journey! Maybe the queen is reading these posts ahahahahahah!

I tell you what, it would be interesting for her if she did and became involved personally! and it would be so intriguing for her that I feel she would be inspired actually.

They were amazing links. Pity there wasn't a top view! so we could see the whole symbol from above.

Thanks Ishtar and thanks for the support in your wisdom about not worrying.

Right on!!!!

Oh by the way, the circles seem concentric as well.

Each circle in metaphor is like the 5 ancient places of truth within the triangle of truth.  Like a the 5 sided pyramid where each side is the story of each city that forms a oneness in truth, discovery and verification.

Extending outside the triangle are more circles on each side. Again, anyway that you look at it the circles again forms the 3 co planar circles which are also concentric as same as the inner triangle circles.

The tree of Life symbol.

Amazing!

Its a real truth carpet!

The symbols of Universal Government in the halls of Power in England. Incredible! 

That people walked over ahahahah! That would be right! ahaha Now the truth arises and respect is given to the symbols, like a preparation?? without realizing it perhaps or perhaps in knowledge of this journey?? Who knows!

Hey all comes from the Land of Brittany, the Younger, Victor the younger from The land of Britiany which can mean the former colony of Britian or the Land of Sinim! or the Land of Sevens.

More goals for the Paradise Sevens scoreboard!

Yeah!!!!! ahahahahaha

Note the face of the Altar, the 3 co planar circles well almost circles but still 3 co planar!

Sinim: means South country  but the message comes from the far East from the Sons of Israel, the spirit Israel of brotherhood and unity of all man.  That's what the true Israel is.

Here is an interesting link to Sinim, the land of Sinim connected to Australia and the Bible codes.  Wow!!

     http://www.britam.org/Tribesman/CodesAustralia.htm   
   
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a fragment

Then we have intersecting the name AUSTRALIA the expression  "BY WHOM SHALL JACOB ARISE? FOR HE IS SMALL"  (Amos 7:5).

and another fragment

 http://www.britam.org/Questions/QuesAustralia.html
Australia was the first nation in the world to vote in the UN in recognition of the State of Israel. Australia is the Land of Sinim from which a portion of the Lost Ten Tribes will return (Isaiah 49:12). Did the Ancient Egyptians and Phoenicians Visit Australia? Did Australia Help Liberate the Holy Land of Israel?
   
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 12, 2008, 05:21:46 am
I just found this browsing the Seventh Mystery on the web.

I think below chapter is a complete description of the Journey to the ancient places.  I believe it related to this journey.

I just found this.

I am amazed and I think its an excellent confirmation.

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http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/index.htm

   PISTIS SOPHIA
tr. by G.R.S. Mead
[1921]

   http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ps/ps091.htm   

This is G.R.S. Mead's translation of  the Pistis Sophia, the most extensive Gnostic scripture  available until the discovery of Nag Hammadi texts in 1945.Any way I found this fragment from a Seventh Mystery keyword search.

     CHAPTER 86
And Jesus answered and said unto Mary: "Finely indeed dost thou question concerning all with precision and certainty. But hearken, Mary, that  I may speak with thee about the consummation of the æon and the ascension of the universe.  It will not yet take place; but I have said unto you:  'If I lead you into the region of the inheritances of those who shall receive the mystery of the Light,  |189. then will the  Treasury of the Light, the region of the emanations, count for you as a speck of dust only and as the light of the sun by day.'

"I have therefore said: 'This will take place

p. 160

Of the twelve saviours and their regions in the Inheritance.at the time of the consummation [and] of the ascension of the universe.'  The twelve saviours of the Treasury and the twelve orders of every one of them, which are the emanations of the seven Voices and of the five Trees, they will be with me in the region of the inheritances of the Light; being kings with me in my kingdom, and every one of them being king over his emanations, and moreover every one of them being king according to his glory, the great according to his greatness and the little according to his littleness.

"And the saviour of the emanations of the first Voice will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the first mystery of the First Mystery in my kingdom.

"And the saviour of the emanations of the second Voice will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the second mystery of the First Mystery.

"In like manner also will the saviour of the emanations of the third Voice be in the region of the souls of those who have received the third mystery of the First Mystery in the E inheritances of the Light.

"And the saviour of the emanations of the fourth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the fourth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the fifth saviour of the fifth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the fifth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

p. 161

"And the sixth saviour of the emanations of the sixth Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the sixth mystery of the First Mystery.

"And the seventh saviour of the emanations of the seventh Voice of the Treasury of the Light will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the seventh mystery of the First Mystery in the Treasury [sic] of the Light.

  "And the eighth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the first Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the I eighth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.


"And the ninth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the second Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the ninth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the tenth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the third Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the tenth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"In like manner also the eleventh saviour, that is the saviour of the fourth Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the eleventh mystery of  the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the twelfth saviour, that is the saviour of the emanations of the fifth Tree of the Treasury of the Light, will be in the region of the souls of those who have received the twelfth mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

p. 162

 Of the ascension of those of the Treasury into the Inheritance." And the seven |192. Amēns and  the five Trees  and the three Amēns will be on my right, being kings in the inheritances of the Light.  And the Twin-saviours, that is the Child of the Child,  and the nine guards will bide also at my left,  being kings in the inheritances of the Light. 

 "And the nine guards of the Treasury of the Light will be superior to the saviours in the inheritances of the Light. Of their respective ranks in the kingdom."And every one of the saviours will rule over the orders of his emanations in the inheritances of the Light as they did also in the Treasury of the Light.


"And the nine guards of the Treasury of the Light will be superior to the saviours in the inheritances of the Light. And the Twin-saviours will be superior to the nine guards in the kingdom. And the three Amēns will be superior to the Twin-saviours in the kingdom. And the five Trees will be superior to the three Amēns in the inheritances of the Light.

Of the powers of the Right, and their emanation and ascension ."And Yew and the guard of the veil of the Great Light, and the receiver of Light and the two great guides and the great Sabaōth, the Good, will be kings in the first saviour of the first Voice of the Treasury of the Light,   [the saviour] who will be in |193. the region of those who have received the first mystery of the First Mystery. For in sooth Yew and the guard of the region of those of the Right and  Melchisedec,  the great receiver of the Light, and the two great guides have come forth out of the purified and utterly pure light of the first Tree up to the fifth.

"Yew in sooth is the overseer of the Light, who hath come forth first out of the pure light of the first Tree; on the other hand the guard of the veil of those of the Right hath come forth out of the second Tree; and the two guides again

p. 163

have come forth out of the pure and utterly purified light of the third and fourth Trees of the Treasury of the Light;  Melchisedec again hath come forth out of the fifth Tree ; on the other hand Sabaōth, the Good, whom I have called my father, hath come forth out of Yew, the overseer of the Light.


Of the powers of the Midst and their ascension ."And the Virgin of Light and the great guide of the Midst, whom the rulers of the æons are wont to call the Great Yew after the name of a great ruler who is in their region ,--he and the Virgin of Light and his twelve ministers, from whom ye have received your shape and from whom ye have received the power,  they all will be kings with the first saviour of the first Voice in the region of the souls of those who will receive the first mystery of the First Mystery in the inheritances of the Light.

"And the fifteen helpers of  the  seven  virgins  of the Light who are in the Midst, they will expand themselves in the regions of the twelve saviours,

p. 164

and the rest of the angels of the Midst, every one of them according to his glory, will rule with me in the inheritances of the Light. And I shall rule over them all in the inheritances of the Light.

But this shall not take place  till the consummation of the æon ."All this then which I have said unto you, will not take place at this time,  but it will take place at the consummation of the æon, that is at the ascension of the universe; that is at the dissolution of the universe and at the total ascension of the numbering  |195. of the perfect souls of the inheritances of the Light.

 "Before the consummation, therefore, this which I have said unto you, will not take place, but every one will be in his own region, into which he hath been set  from the beginning,  until the numbering of the ingathering of the perfect souls is completed.

 "The seven Voices and the five Trees and the three Amēns and the Twin-saviours and the nine guards and the twelve saviours  and those of the region of the Right and those of the region of the Midst,  , until the numbering of the  perfect souls of the inheritances of the Light shall be raised up all together. 

"And also all the rulers who have repented, they also will abide in the region into which they have been set, until the numbering of the souls of the Light shall be raised up all together.

Of the ascension of the souls of the perfect."[The souls]  will all come, every one at the time when he will receive the mysteries; and all the rulers who have repented, will pass through and come into the region of the Midst.  seals of their mysteries. And they will pass through those of all the regions of the Midst, and they will pass through the region of the Right and the interior of the region of the nine guards and the interior of the region of the Twin-saviours and the interior of the region of the   And those of the Midst will baptize them and give unto them the spiritual unction and seal them with the

p. 165

three |196. Amens and of the twelve saviours and the interior of the five Trees and of  the seven Voices. Every one giveth unto them his seal of his mystery, and they pass into the interior of them all and go to the region of the inheritances of the Light; and every one bideth in the region up to which he hath received mysteries in the inheritances of the Light.
Of the rank of the souls of the perfect."In a word, all the souls of men who shall receive the mysteries of the Light, will precede all the rulers who have repented, and they will precede all those of the region of the Midst and those of the whole region of the Right, and they will precede those of the whole region of the Treasury of the Light.  In a word, they will precede all those of the region [of the Treasury], and they will precede all those of the regions of the first Commandment, and they will pass into the interior of them all and go into the Inheritance of the Light up to the region of their mystery; and every one abideth in the region up to which he hath received mysteries. And those of the region of the Midst and of the Right and those of the whole region of the Treasury, every one abideth in the region of the order into which he hath been set from the beginning on, until the universe shall be raised up. And every one of them accomplisheth his economy to which he hath been set, in respect of the ingathering of the souls who
p. 166

have received the mysteries, in respect of this economy, so that they may seal |197. all the souls who will receive the mysteries and who will pass through their interior towards the Inheritance of the Light.


"Now, therefore, Mary, this is the word concerning which thou dost que stion me with precision and certainty.  For the rest now then, who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

Incredible find I am so impressed and everything seem reflected.  Its all about this journey. 

However, it seems quite different to the Bible but there may be many clues to the end times in this book.  I thought chapter 86 was totaly interesting and relevant to this journey.

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/ps.pdf

Here are some more fragments in the book looking at the keyword mysteries.

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"For this cause therefore, have I said unto you aforetime: 'He who doth not abandon
father and mother and come and follow after me, is not worthy of me.' I have, therefore,
said  at that time : Ye are to abandon your parents the rulers,  that I may make you sons of the First Mystery for ever."
   


Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistis_Sophia

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Pistis Sophia includes quotes from five of the Odes of Solomon, found in chapters between 58 and 71. Pistis Sophia was the only known source for the actual wording of any of the Odes until the discovery of a nearly-complete Syriac text of the Odes in 1909. Because the first part of this text is missing, Pistis Sophia is still the only source for Ode 1.


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Elmer Jessup on May 16, 2008, 10:33:07 am
More fine work, sevens!  We have to warn these atheists and non-believers that they better shape up because judgment is near! 


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 17, 2008, 11:41:45 pm
Hi Elmer how are you?  good to hear from you and thanks for the encouragement.

Yesterday I felt was another great breakthrough.

A friend of Mine sent me a link to the Aquarian Gospel, apparently it was written in the 1800's by

Levi H. Dowling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_H._Dowling
http://spiritlight.com:80/jesus/aquarian1.htm

I hadn't heard of this book and was quite happy to have a look at it.  I started scanning the book using the page search and generally speed reading to see if I could recognize some details of commonalities which I feel I did.

Here is the link
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000162&p=14

As I was a few posts down in the book I noticed this verse in amoungst a few with the word Tao.

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25) And Tao Great was One; the One became the Two; the Two became the Three, the Three evolved the Seven, which filled the universe with manifests.

Here is the post

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000162&p=14

When I read this word Tao I knew I recognized this before through the Urantia Book as it related to Lao Tze.

I then switched to research into the direction of Tao and its evolution and during the study I found some very interesting connections and parallels that would of not been known in 1934 in the UB record.

Anyway, during all the posts of connecting Lao Tse with the Melchizedeks in the past, I found some interesting information that may lay a path for the Chinese people back to their origins in religion making connection with the Melchizedek truth which makes connection with the Urantia Book and The Bible and all the other books which uplifts the people into the truth filled destiny and which links to Jesus' teachings.

It now becomes more important to go Dalamatia City and verify the place and including all the other places as this could benefit all man, knowing the paths and branches that would help him within his own culture as the truth is embedded in their early books of truth.  All its needs is the right circumstance to prove the matter as we do have the information that create the branches.

Feel free to go through all those posts from yesterday, Im sure you will find them interesting.  It was a wonderful day of just research and being inspired with what I found and came across.  Many lead thoughts would occur to me where I would follow them and find the connection straightaway.  However, Im still looking for the place See Fuch as there was a temple there for 1000 years and it was the headquarters of the Melchizedek missionaries in that time in China around 2500 BC

Its amazing that when you are inspired with finding things of the Lord how much energy you receive in the journey of discovery and confirmation, with a book in one hand and the evidence found on the net.  Truly an inspiring experience!

Its like this Elmer, you get this forethought on a track of a connection, you already know it will be confirmed and know what to look for, for some reason I might do a search when I might see a statement that I resonate to.  Following the voice within, you feel it in your heart and in your mind.  You see the connection in the search and you know it confirms the first thought and then you feel this feeling of love and rejoicing in the Lord!

Its just beautiful journey! and at the end of the day you and the Lord have laid down the seeds that are growing and creating branches and the fruit comes at the verification and the seeds and branches are growing with every post and with every discovery.

That's how I truly see it and it is beyond anything the world can offer, this glorious journey to the ancient places of laying seeds and growing branches with leaves and eventually fruit ready for the harvest.  I believe this journey is the new seed from the storehouses from the treasury of Paradise Sevenfold!


All the best Elmer
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 26, 2008, 05:37:28 am
Here is a link about the Melchizedek and his office which is no different to the office of the Messiah as in the DSC.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/107/1-3#1

I thought it was interesting!

and here is see through of the Work of John Gill Preacher 1697-1772

The below highlighted precisely points to Dalamatia City, Persian Gulf where the truth comes from and from the 1stEden, Mediterranean Sea the other place where the truth will emanate following the path of the tree of Life in former ages of the wasted places in order to heal the breach.  Also all the components of the current journey to the ancient places is completely reflected in the below.  Excellent discovery! this is a great confirmation of the work of the Office of the Messiah!

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12:4): this will be the time, even in the Philadelphian state, when there will be an open door set, which no man can shut (Rev. 3:8); an opportunity of preaching the gospel every where, and which will be taken and used; a wonderful door of utterance will be given to ministers of the word, who will open their mouth freely, and boldly, and with great success. The doctrines of the gospel are the living waters, so called for their refreshing and quickening nature, both to dead sinners and drooping saints, that at this time shall go out of Jerusalem, the church of God; half of them towards the former sea, or the eastern sea, as the Targum; the Persian sea, which lay east of Jerusalem, and so before it: and half of them towards the hinder sea, or the western sea, as the paraphrase; the Mediterranean sea, which lies to the west of Jerusalem, and so behind it; and both denoting the spread of the gospel in the latter day, east and west, for the conversion of the eastern nations in China, Tartary, Persia, &c., and for the conversion of the western nations in Europe; in summer and in winter shall it be (Zech. 14:8). These waters will be ever flowing, these doctrines will be constantly preaching; nor will the ministry of the word be hindered by any heat of persecution, or by any coldness or indifference to it.


The above is a small fragment of a great study from John Gill.  I also have been reading his Messiah papers and I am very impressed.  Very accurate to this time.

study
http://sevenfoldtruth.com/urantia-clues18.htm#Gill

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on June 09, 2008, 11:25:44 pm
sevens,

How fare your recent discoveries?  Have you made any revelations that have yet turned you back into the path of the one true God?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on June 10, 2008, 04:27:24 am
Hi 12 Apostles

No worries thanks for the email, the research is going very well and I feel happy with it I think I have reached an end to research which led me the isle of Patmos and the well seals which maybe the thing John was looking at when he was writing about the Seventh Seal, like well seal of everliving waters of truth in metaphor related to the seventh mystery revealed at the end days.

In the same moment I found symbols used in the Seventh book of Moses and a few other symbols in other related books that completely confirmed all the symbolism found in the path of the journey.

I think it felt like a conclusion to the on the run research but Im not sure as you never know what you find everyday.  But coming to the symbols in harmony to the journey was like a finale.  Now its time to go out there so at the moment Im getting prices and see what it takes to do an expedition.

Hey thanks for your enquiry 12 Apostles, I believe this is the path of the One God of Paradise/The Kingdom of Heaven and so far in this journey of faith I have not been disappointed with the research.   Actually I feel enthusiastic, the attitude the Father likes to see by the Sons of the Father happily doing the will the Father in the way see in their life.

All the best

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on July 24, 2008, 08:47:52 pm
Well Im in the battlefield of the Athiest

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51090&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

if you interested

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on August 19, 2008, 04:10:47 pm
Sevens, have you turned away from the false prophecies and back towards the Bible again?

If not, what's stopping you..?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on September 30, 2008, 07:25:47 am
I can only hope that my good friend sevens has now turned away from the false prophets and now sees the light.  Hallelujah.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on November 04, 2008, 03:27:22 pm
Ive been here finding all kinds of things.

I believe we are just about at the doors of judgment

http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/urantia-clues22.htm#script

I love the Bible, its a great book.  I appreciate the Bible more so than ever before, due to the Urantia Book

Praise the Lord.

Sevens



Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on December 26, 2008, 01:15:57 am
Do you Urantia Book followers celebrate Christmas like the rest of us, sevens, or do you have a different holiday?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 02, 2009, 03:07:41 am
I believe the birth of Jesus was August 21st 07BC

He is the master of

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With Active Links
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre8.htm

and master of this

(http://sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre9.jpg)
With Active Links
http://sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre9.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 02, 2009, 03:31:36 am
(http://sevenfoldtruth.com/lightNoHeat.jpg)
With Active Links
http://sevenfoldtruth.com/lightNoHeat.htm

and

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre11.jpg)
With Active Links
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre11.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 02, 2009, 04:21:22 am

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With Active Links
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre12.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 02, 2009, 07:32:32 am
I just saw on the news a huge story that Australian Scientist have just received ...I think another Gamma ray outburst unless its the same Magnetar that Im speaking about.

But it was on the Late News Channel 10, 2nd January 09.

That apparently Australian Scientist just received today an outburst of "Light without Heat" gamma ray from 11 billion light years away. It seems quite a big deal from what I could gather in the news article.

They even used the image that I used on the tablets.

They linked it to a black hole or the formation of a Black Hole but they seemed to be vague on that.  But we know it linked to Dark island of Space and its attendant spheres.

Here is an article which is related.

Ok it appears to be something different from the Magnetar I have been speaking about.  But in any case it a very interesting event.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/02/2458382.htm?section=australia
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Quick thinking helps WA team capture death of star
Posted 4 hours 37 minutes ago
Updated 3 hours 7 minutes ago
 
The Zadko Telescope captured an image of a explosion that occurred about 11 billion years ago. (Supplied)


(http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200901/r327652_1471819.jpg)
Audio: Dr David Coward speaks to David Weber about the Zadko telescope's sighting (ABC News)
Map: Gingin 6503

An Australian team has marked the beginning of the International Year of Astronomy by revealing its discovery of the death of a star and the birth of a black hole.

The huge gamma ray burst was the most distant event ever seen from Western Australia, and one of the most distant seen from the nation as a whole.

The Australian team was the first in the world to see it, but then disaster struck when a computer crash meant the team's sophisticated astronomy camera stopped working.

The Zadko telescope, north of Perth, captured an image of a explosion that occurred about 11 billion years ago.

Dr David Coward told ABC Radio's AM the explosion resulted from the explosion of a massive star about 100 times bigger than our sun.

"This star exploded 11  billion years in our pastand it's taken that long for the photons of light or the messengers from this event to reach us," he said.

"This is quite a spectacular event in the universe that this telescope has managed to capture."
The University of Western Australia team saw the event in November, but they could not confirm it until recently when images were finally enhanced.

A computer crash at the time meant they were lucky to get a recorded image of the event at all.

Dr Coward says the team had to use a video camera.


"We had a catastrophic failure of the CCD camera ... essentially, the computer that runs the camera," he said.

"We had a video camera that was much much cheaper and ... a colleague of ours, Timo Vaalsta, managed to quickly get this video camera onto the telescope and start imaging this event.

"What's interesting is these events are transient, they occur over a matter of hours so you can't go back to the same spot and image this event, it's gone forever, these are one-off things."

He said the team was the first in the world to see it, despite only capturing evidence through a simple video camera.

"That's the irony is that the images that were obtained hours later by the biggest telescopes in the world had state of the art CCD cameras worth hundreds of thousands of dollars," he said.
"We were able to image this event with a simple video camera, which is under $1,000 compared to hundreds of thousands."


He says the team believes this is the first time an optical afterglow from a gamma ray burst has been observed from Western Australia.

"It's good for WA to know that we're participating in a globalised science because this sort of science is really about having telescopes all over the world performing these sorts of observations," he said.

"Our observation was reported to NASA and this information was distributed to about 190 observatories all over the world."

He says the CCD camera is being tested again so it can be ready for next time.
"We're also quite encouraged by the fact that this video camera can also do some pretty good science so we're definitely going to have the video camera as a backup," he said.

"The CCD camera is working and we're starting to do our first tests again.

"We're hoping that another gamma ray burst will go off in the next few months [and] that we can image that as well."

As told to David Weber for AM, January 2.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 02, 2009, 08:28:44 pm
To understand more about Gamma rays we go to the Urantia Book

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line 148: 5. Gamma rays--those emanations which characterize the spontaneous dissociation of atomic matter. The best illustration of this form of electronic activity is in the phenomena associated with radium disintegration.

So in order  to find out more we find out more about Radium disintegration

we find this

Note: how they associated the ultimaton to a solar system giving us an understanding of dimension and what is occurring, in fact 11 Billion years ago and what is causing it.

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Within the atom the electrons revolve about the central proton with about the same comparative room the planets have as they revolve about the sun in the space of the solar system. There is the same relative distance, in comparison with actual size, between the atomic nucleus and the inner electronic circuit as exists between the inner planet, Mercury, and your sun.


The electronic axial revolutions and their orbital velocities about the atomic nucleus are both beyond the human imagination, not to mention the velocities of their component ultimatons. The positive particles of radium fly off into space at the rate of ten thousand miles a second, while the negative particles attain a velocity approximating that of light .


http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=radium&submit=Submit

So what we are seeing in a Gamma Ray shower is "spontaneous dissociation of atomic matter." we are probably observing the Negative particle of disrupted matter which travels at the speed of light, the optical "light without heat" without the positive particle.

Perhaps the positive particle being slower(20,000 miles per second) is left behind and pulled back into the resultant hot and condensed Black Hole.  You have mass, heat and gravity. The negative particle escaping at the speed of light towards us is the negative particle without mass nor heat only "Light without Heat" gamma ray!

This explains the Dark Island of Space as described in the Urantia Book.  Mass, Heat, highly charged and great gravity pull.  A Black hole is dissasociated mass.  The Positive particle in the case of a Black Hole.

All these architectural spheres that we cant see except if they send us flashes are drawing from the energies expressed in these virtual elliptical dark island Suns. 

I believe in the case of the Architectural worlds the hidden worlds, they simply reconstitute this dark energy from the dark island of space through directionalised circuits and as the dark light enters through the upper surface of the atmosphere, like a one way filter, the positive dark light is reconstituted with its negative particle to shed a very luminous pleasant, all encompassing light on the hidden sphere basking in the light of Heaven.  The Architectural spheres seem to have the ability to emit controlled Gamma Ray "light without Heat"

Just brings me to this further mystery of "Light without Heat", these Dark island of Space, its attendant spheres and  the Gamma Ray  Emanations they emit.

  (http://sevenfoldtruth.com/lightNoHeat.jpg)
 http://sevenfoldtruth.com/lightNoHeat.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Dark Goddess on January 04, 2009, 01:02:04 am
Interesting information, sevens.  Are you sure you can trust the Urantia Book when it comes to gamma ray explanations, though?  I thought the science was something like one hundred years old in it.  We know so much more than we did then.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 07, 2009, 05:37:10 am
Dark Goddess check out the book man and go through the science,  I know it will intruige you.

All the best
Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 07, 2009, 05:37:41 am
Here is a little something I developed on Burachs (assistant of Jeremiah) end time prophecy. Its been on my mind for a while since Dec 3rd 08.

     http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre13.htm     
     (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/UniverseCentre13.jpg)

   
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15 For knowledge He hath appointed as its way, hath widened it and extended it; and brought to all perfection;  16  And set over it the traces of His light, and I walked therein from the beginning even to the end.   17  For by Him it was wrought, and He was resting in the Son,  and  for its salvation He will take hold of everything .  18  And the Most High shall be known in His Saints, to announce to those that have songs of  the coming of the Lord : 19 That they may go forth to meet Him, and may sing to Him with joy and with the harp of many tones:  20 The seers shall come before Him and they shall be seen before Him, 21 And they shall praise the Lord for His love:  because He is near and beholdeth. 22 And hatred shall be taken from the earth, and along with jealousy it shall be drowned: 23 For ignorance hath been destroyed,  because the knowledge of the Lord hath arrived . 24 They who make songs shall sing the grace of the Lord Most High; 25 And they shall bring their songs, and their heart shall be like the day: and like the excellent beauty of the Lord their pleasant song; 26  And there shall neither be anything that breathes without knowledge nor any that is dumb:  27  For He hath given a mouth to His creation, to open the voice of the mouth towards Him, to praise Him : 28 Confess ye His power, and show forth His grace. Hallelujah.

Praise the Father and thanks Burach for your help in the last times of this age.

and

The reference to the sealed document sent by God is one of the great mysteries of the collection.

 
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1 Joy is of the saints! and who shall put it on, but they alone? 2 Grace is of the elect! and who shall receive it except those who trust in  it from the beginning ? 3 Love is of the elect? And who shall put it on except those who have possessed it from the beginning?  4 Walk ye in the knowledge of the Most High without grudging: to His exultation and to the perfection of His knowledge. 5 And His thought was like a letter; His will descended from on high, and it was sent like an arrow which is violently from the bow: 6 And many hands rushed to the letter to seize it and to take and read it: 7 And it escaped their fingers and they were affrighted at it and at the seal that was upon it. 8 Because it was not permitted to them to loose its seal: for the power that was over the seal was greater than they . 9 But those who saw it went after the letter that they might know where it would alight, and who should read it and who should hear it. 10 But a wheel (magnetar) received it and came over it:  11 And there was with it a sign of the Kingdom and of the Government:   12 And everything which tried to move the wheel it mowed and cut down: 13 And it gathered the multitude of adversaries, and bridged the rivers and crossed over and rooted up many forests and made a broad path. 14 The head went down to the feet for down to the feet ran the wheel, and  that which was a sign upon it . 15 The letter was one of command, for there were included in it all districts; 16 And there was seen at its head, the head which was revealed even the Son of Truth from the Most High Father, 17 And He inherited and took possession of everything. And the thought of many was brought to nought. 18 And all the apostates hasted and fled away. And those who persecuted and were enraged became extinct, 19 And the letter was a great volume, which was wholly written by the finger of God:  20 And  the name of the Father was on it and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, to rule for ever and ever.  Hallelujah. 
the whole journey!


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 09, 2009, 08:58:15 pm
Its interesting that Light without Heat Magnetar was realized on  Dec 3rd 09  and understood more fully along the journey since then.

Again one of the first I thought was Burach and the 40 days, I did mention this and off course there is another calculation date involved.  Which to me, upon realisation Dec 3rd 08 plus forty days brings me to Jan 12th 09.

I did mention this date but felt low key I was even reluctant to speak about it but you never know something else maybe discovered that may lead on to the next path of this journey now that we have ventured into Space to the System Capital.

Now note: On  Dec 3rd 08  we hade Light without Heat Directionalised light signal realized.
 
 40 Flashes in 3 days 11 days later a infra red episode. right!

Now on  Friday, January 09, 2009, 37 days  later a article is published  "Mystery Roar Detected From Faraway Space"  this is published 3 days before  12th Jan 09  the  40th day  of Burach Calculation.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477880,00.html

 Jan 10th 09  I am sent a news article via a forum some 38 days later.  We read that there is a Sound boom in Space that is not understood by man.  Just comes out of no where.

Back to Magnetar Sevenfold

40 flashes, 40  being symbolic to the ark or a time of safety and contemplation and  3 days before the time the 40th day another signalis realized the  Sound compliment  to the "Light without Heat" directionalised signal.

Could it be Jan 12th 09 that both the Light and the Sounds come together in the a final compliment.

The Crescendo??  Can we expect some beginning on  Jan 12th 08 ?? that may go for 3 days or 11 days where things happen or do we discover something that leads us to the next path.  Note at the end of the 11th day another infrared episode which is all to do with Heat??

You will know on the  Jan 12th 09

I will away for 8 days for work and seeing my Mother, if something was to occur physically I would be her which would be fitting!.  I will not be around to write. 

We then have to have faith in what is written before this time date calculation but see what happens but be on red alert.

You just never what will occur and this would have to be the greatest call in the Universe understanding the Signs and the timing of the Father and I dont have any idea of the actual judgment time.  I just look and try to understand the signs.  I just go by my Seven Senses or Seven thunders within me and by my adjutants and all my being in relation to the Father.  The Broadcast circuits are related to Seven Adjutants of the whole universe and I think one must be spiritually attuned to that in receiving and understanding and the spirit of the broadcast from the Seat of Rule through the flashes of truth along with the interpretation and understand that could only come religion and spirituality!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Calvin Noble on January 18, 2009, 05:22:13 pm
sevens, I take it from your postings that you are eagerly anticipating the end of the  world, much referencing to dates and things like that.  Am I wrong in that assumption, or do yearn for the world to end?  And, if you do believe it shall end, on  what date do you believe it shall end on?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on January 19, 2009, 12:38:06 pm
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I believe the birth of Jesus was August 21st 07BC

sevens, how do you figure this date for the birth of Christ?  Even proponents of a date that differs with Christmas put his birthdate in the spring, at best.

Don't you feel that you might be committing a sacrilege by celebrating a different date?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 22, 2009, 02:44:05 am
sevens, I take it from your postings that you are eagerly anticipating the end of the  world, much referencing to dates and things like that.  Am I wrong in that assumption, or do yearn for the world to end?  And, if you do believe it shall end, on  what date do you believe it shall end on?

Calvin, it wont be the end of the world, planet Earth, but I feel that things we see today will pass into a new world of which those of faith and love for one another based on the truth of Jesus will live to rebuild.

I believe a judgment will come to mankind through a judgment broadcast that will emanate from the Judgment Seat from the system headquarters where the 24 elders live and who are seated around the Judgment Seat.

The judgment of the Last Rebel will come followed by his children.

When the judgment broadcast comes the Earth will shake and the mountains will move.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 22, 2009, 02:51:15 am
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I believe the birth of Jesus was August 21st 07BC

sevens, how do you figure this date for the birth of Christ?  Even proponents of a date that differs with Christmas put his birthdate in the spring, at best.

Don't you feel that you might be committing a sacrilege by celebrating a different date?

25th Dec.... Jesus' so called birthday comes from the Mithraic religions before Jesus was born.  Mithra was born on this date.

The Catholic church just switched Mithra's Birthdate to the birth of Jesus when it became Christian.  St Peters Basilica was a Mithra temple before it became Christian.

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The Urantia Book

The adherents of this cult worshiped in caves and other secret places, chanting hymns, mumbling magic, eating the flesh of the sacrificial animals, and drinking the blood. Three times a day they worshiped, with special weekly ceremonials on the day of the sun-god and with the most elaborate observance of all on the annual festival of Mithras, December twenty-fifth. It was believed that the partaking of the sacrament ensured eternal life, the immediate passing, after death, to the bosom of Mithras, there to tarry in bliss until the judgment day. On the judgment day the Mithraic keys of heaven would unlock the gates of Paradise for the reception of the faithful; whereupon all the unbaptized of the living and the dead would be annihilated upon the return of Mithras to earth. It was taught that, when a man died, he went before Mithras for judgment, and that at the end of the world Mithras would summon all the dead from their graves to face the last judgment. The wicked would be destroyed by fire, and the righteous would reign with Mithras forever

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper98.html

Sounds like the Doctrine and Dogma of Christianity would you say.  Emanating out of Mithra.

Christianity should really review itself and its origins of its Doctrines and Dogmas. I can see where the compromises of Paul lay in his making of his brand of Christianity more acceptable to the Mithra congregation. The same things that Christianity has inherited to day in there presentation today.

This is precisely why much Christian Doctrine and Dogma thoughts can be wrong.  Because it, in truth came from Mithra and the Mithra thought is a degeneration of the truth....ultimately, going back in time. "This sun-god, or Sol Invictus, was a degeneration of the Ahura-Mazda deity concept of Zoroastrianism"  Christianity in theology have big roots in Zoroastrianism going back 600BC.  Now you know where the notion of Hell came from and Good and Evil and the doctrine of Judgment and the Saviour!  The intercessor and so forth!


7. THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION
http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper98.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper98.html&line=119#mfs

and this

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3. The Zoroastrian conception of the struggle between cosmic good and evil, which had already left its imprint on both Judaism and Mithraism. Through prolonged contact attendant upon the struggles between Mithraism and Christianity, the doctrines of the Iranian prophet became a potent factor in determining the theologic and philosophic cast and structure of the dogmas, tenets, and cosmology of the Hellenized and Latinized versions of the teachings of Jesus.

and this

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4. The mystery cults, especially Mithraism but also the worship of the Great Mother in the Phrygian cult. Even the legends of the birth of Jesus on Urantia became tainted with the Roman version of the miraculous birth of the Iranian savior-hero, Mithras, whose advent on earth was supposed to have been witnessed by only a handful of gift-bearing shepherds who had been informed of this impending event by angels.

All food for thought and reflection for Chrsitianity to know the truth of there Origins of Faith and time for correction.

And this

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6.The personal viewpoint of Paul of Tarsus. And it should be recorded that Mithraism was the dominant religion of Tarsus during his adolescence. Paul little dreamed that his well-intentioned letters to his converts would someday be regarded by still later Christians as the "word of God."    Such well-meaning teachers must not be held accountable  for the use made of their writings by later-day successors .

There is no escape from this post except for denial.  But would that be denying the Holy Spirit in light of the truth???

Like I said there is no escape from truth in this post regarding much of the Doctrine and Dogmas of Christianity!! including all there wild, wayward doctrines upon doctrine upon Dogma institutions including all there evolutionary rituals and so forth.

This is the plummet line of truth!  being layed down!

And the real hard truth about the religion of Christianity today in its portrayal

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As the original teachings of Jesus penetrated the Occident, they became Occidentalized, and as they became Occidentalized, they began to lose their potentially universal appeal to all races and kinds of men. Christianity, today, has become a religion well adapted to the social, economic, and political mores of the white races. It has long since ceased to be the religion of Jesus, although it still valiantly portrays a beautiful religion about Jesus to such individuals as sincerely seek to follow in the way of its teaching. It has glorified Jesus as the Christ, the Messianic anointed one from God, but has largely forgotten the Master's personal gospel: the Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men

It has long since ceased to be the religion of Jesus,

but has largely forgotten the Master's personal gospel: the Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men

Gee Christianity should be in full humbled repentance right now!!

But there to arrogant to look at themselves.  To self blinded and self absorbed with there Mithra Dogma and Christmas Presents.

In this case who is doing the sacrilege

Not me but those of the Christian/Mithra Faith!!!!! in actual truth!!!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 22, 2009, 02:57:07 am
Calvin and 12 Apostles.

There is much going and much progress has been made.

Just be aware because I think Judgment is close.

Im not going by dates anymore but on each date Ive always mentioned I have always discovered something very significant in the journey to the ancient places.

all the best

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 22, 2009, 06:25:49 am
Jesus confirms a day of judgment.

Its definitely in the cards and it will come.  Its written and confirmed by Jesus himself, he will do the judgment of Mankind.

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line 125: Then, speaking to all the disciples, he said: "You have heard how many cities and villages have received the good news of the kingdom, and how my ministers and teachers have been received by both the Jew and the gentile. And blessed indeed are these communities which have elected to believe the gospel of the kingdom. But woe upon the light-rejecting inhabitants of Chorazin, Bethsaida-Julias, and Capernaum, the cities which did not well receive these messengers. I declare that, if the mighty works done in these places had been done in Tyre and Sidon, the people of these so-called heathen cities would have long since repented in sackcloth and ashes. It shall indeed be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment."

line 96: To another standing near by who asked Jesus how the wealthy would stand in the day of judgment, he replied: "I have come to judge neither the rich nor the poor, but the lives men live will sit in judgment on all. Whatever else may concern the wealthy in the judgment, at least three questions must be answered by all who acquire great wealth, and these questions are:

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" 1. How much wealth did you accumulate?

"2. How did you get this wealth?

"3. How did you use your wealth?"
 

In other words how selfish where you???

Be very prepared and question yourself about the things that may be in deliberate willful error.

and

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# line 379: 2. Sleeping Survivors. All mortals of survival status, in the custody of personal guardians of destiny, pass through the portals of natural death and, on the third period, personalize on the mansion worlds. Those accredited beings who have, for any reason, been unable to attain that level of intelligence mastery and endowment of spirituality which would entitle them to personal guardians, cannot thus immediately and directly go to the mansion worlds. Such surviving souls must rest in unconscious sleep until the judgment day of a new epoch, a new dispensation, the coming of a Son of God to call the rolls of the age and adjudicate the realm, and this is the general practice throughout all Nebadon. It was said of Christ Michael that, when he ascended on high at the conclusion of his work on earth, "He led a great multitude of captives." And these captives were the sleeping survivors from the days of Adam to the day of the Master's resurrection on Urantia.

Judgment is on because Jesus my friend says so!!!!!

So everyone better get ready and no mucking around.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 23, 2009, 12:38:14 pm
Whilst everything is suddenly all quite on this thread while 12 Apostles and Calvin Noble are picking themselves of the floor.  Thinking how can I respond to all of the above.

I suppose Christianity and its individuals who make profit out of the religion about Jesus, have to ask themselves.  How they accumulated there wealth? and was it through using the Religion itself used as a cash cow!!!!!!!! spreading fear and anxiety to fear people through doctrine.  What was the ultimate motive deep in the heart?? Was it for survival or profit or was it out of a genuine interest to spread the word?

All these questions are things that a Christian who profits from the religion about Jesus have to ask themselves.

This includes you Calvin, you make money out of religion using the doctrines of the Church upon others with superiority and dominance.

These 3 questions alone asked by Jesus when he comes to judge will be the reckoning of the current Christian religion about Jesus and it will purge Christianity in truth from the heart.

Christianity is not safe for those who indulge in it by using religion as a weapon and then to fill the coffers.

This will be the very hard truth for many Christians who use the religion about Jesus as a cash cow spreading false doctrine through the compromises of the past and who avoid this truth like the plague!

Because it is true and we all know this.

All the social programs of religion are all of sudden shallow and does not explore the real truth of the religion of Jesus, the one he portrayed and lived in truth and in action.

I suppose I face this delimma to regarding this journey.  I dont make money out it but I know it will take money to explore these places along with a presentation.  This is why I gave out all the information freely as it happened not to be tempted to keep this knowledge away from man for a few lousy rotten bucks.  But anyway all Im saying is that we all have to review our motives in money and Christianity.

Personaly I have needs and this project has real needs to but how do you do it without the money thing??

Wait for judgment while this journey continues but meanwhile it struggles.

I dont know, the money thing has always been a dilemma for me because I want this journey to be pure and not tainted with the money/profit motivation in its ugliness.  Besides that its a personal project of Jesus, the Sovereign which should have the ultimate respect and fidelity.

Believe me, this project in full flight would well exceed more than a billion dollars in the box office. Easily! without a doubt! But its that money profit motivation thing that rears its head and the origins of the project that has to be considered being a Universal/Planetary project. 

Regarding the purity of this project I would hate it to be tainted by the money power hungry hands of Hollywood and all the BS that occurs being a constant money chase, always for reward and profit which includes all false smiles, insincerity and falsity knowing there thoughts are quite different and apart always seeking the strategic advantage. Nothing else matters except profit and advantage over others!!  That place Hollywood is rotten to the core in all their motives!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on January 23, 2009, 03:18:11 pm
Well Ive been thinking about this project and where to go.

It could be that judgment is with us soon or maybe Judgment is postponed as Father wants me and a crew to go and do a expedition/s to Dalamatia City to prove the matter in the verification. Perhaps he wants me to verify all I have said on these threads in the demonstration.

Maybe the Father wants me to go through this experience as a learning experience of faith and trust in him and his guidance. To go out in the physical experience and see for myself, to live what I have been saying.   We know we have discovered the location of the first city spiritually and in the research but now the father wants to take us there....himself and with all the Angels.

Well if that is to happen, funds have to be raised for a project like this. This fundraising exercise would have to provide an opportunity for all to become part of the project.

Like the raising funds in the production of the UB, funds received by the project have to encompass all man in the opportunity of faith and not by one entity funding it. Its a Jesus/mankind project.

The fund could run by an association but there will be one person signing the cheques as I have seen to many accountants rip off companies to its death knell and I dont trust very many people with money as they dont have Jesus in their hearts and are susceptible to temptation of theft and all the other ugly things that come with it.

I suppose the fund would have to accumulate funds until its ready to fully finance a 2 week expedition with all the facilities available including the production and with all the permissions.

The fund would have certain investment levels to cater for the larger and smaller investor offering a standard return which would be based on scale dependant on the receipts in the Box office.  Equal return, equal opportunity.

I was thinking the highest return would be 100% return on a scale, why not. Double the investment in the best circumstances.

I was thinking that the project would have 3 main components.

The current project, future expeditions and a social program.

The current project would involve current production and expedition to Dalamatia City and an 3rd expedition to 1stEden to firm up the other anomalies that can be seen and do match to what is written in the Urantia Book. The production and presentation would be a joint presentation of 2 cities running down through the timeline in truth and the presenting the evidence. The Van highland can also be included and much information has already been gifted to the brothers of Shirvan to go and have look in the initial phase to see if the anomalies to actually exist.

Really speaking the presentation will about the Journey of the Tree of life through 3 locations, 2 submerged and one above water. In effect it could be about the adventures of Van and Amadon throughout the ages walking through the location of the ages.

Why Robert Sarmast could go to 1stEden in a 3rd expedition and I myself to Dalamatia City virtualy simultaneously and both to Van highland...maybe perhaps!!  Any combination could work.  The pres would be about the past, present and future destiny.

The presentation in Hindu prophecy would be the Tipura where the 3 cities of truth become one in the presentation and as we walk through these cities.

I would say that would be the main presentation, the presentation of the 3 cities and the journey to them knowing that the on the run document of the journey is available for all to read for free at all times.  Seeing it in the manifestation as it happened!

I believe the receipt from this in the Box office would be massive which would provide funds for the 2 other component funds.

Once all is fulfilled with the investors and associated production companies the rest of the receipts can be channeled into the future expeditions fund where monies are accumulated for future expeditions and presentations such as a 2 week expedition to Dilmun and the Tower of Babel and perhaps an expedition to 1stSusa and highlight the ancient Andite paths even to South America and through to the Great Pyramid  to the ancient man on the plug following the symbols.

Simultaneously, monies can be channeled to fund a social program such as the Free School idea where the poor are taught the basics of civilisation for free and where the older teach the younger throughout the world raising the spirit of Dalamatia City in its original function.  Also I would like open an Sevenfold institute of learning and research where all the books of religion are blended together in research and study and guided by the UB information, a place where individual religionists can study freely in an open environment and seek out the truth of the matter.  Also I would finance all the translations of the UB book.

In all the while investment can also be made to produce free energy devices for poor civilizations in order to create food, have clean water and have shelter with free energy.

As for me I want to pay of debt, secure the bunker, continue the on the run research and go to all these places through expeditions and verify the truth before the advent of judgment, if it comes to pass in our day.

It is a good experience to live by faith without any security relying on the Father.  It is a good thing for any to man at least once on his life to go through an experience like that, to live by faith and with the Angels in faith.  However, in this journey things will have to change in order to fulfill the ultimate goal of this journey in the physical as I am unable to do anything at this stage.

If judgment is to be postponed or put back until this journey is fully fulfilled then things have to move rapidly in this direction of fulfilling in the physical. 

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Dark Goddess on January 27, 2009, 12:44:38 am
sevens, does 2012 mean anything in the dates of the Urantia Book as it does everywhere else? The Mayans, the Bible Code and Nostradamus all seem to place much significance on December 21st, 2012 as the end of the world!   :)


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 10, 2009, 09:37:54 pm
Hi I havent seen anything in the Urantia Book regarding 2012. 

But Im sure something is close

Here is the 50 day view at the apexs of the timeline of the Magnetars

A platform for demomstration of truth.

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarBurach2.jpg)

With links
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarBurach2.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 13, 2009, 04:28:27 am
Here is an expansion of the Shabbes Sevenfold timeline in accordance to the adventures of Magnetar!

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarSabbath.jpg)

With links
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 13, 2009, 04:29:11 am
A further evolution

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarBurach3Thumb.jpg)

with links
Enlargement
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Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 14, 2009, 03:49:39 am
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Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 14, 2009, 07:32:50 am
This whole chapter has many reoccurances of BADE

I think Jesus is speaking about right NOW being one of the messages through Magnetar.

Remember pre the coming is a journey of Faith.

4 reoccurances of the word BADE and 6 reoccurances of BIDDEN all from Jesus in one sitting.  He was describing precisely the junction I believe we are in now!  Hint!

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Jesus Heals the Man Who Had Dropsy
14And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him. 2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy. 3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day? 4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go; 5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? 6 And they could not answer him again to these things.

A Lesson to Guests and a Host
7 And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them, 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. 12 Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee. 13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: 14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.

The Parable of the Great Supper
15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God. 16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: 17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. 18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. 19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. 20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. 21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind. 22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. 23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

The Cost of Discipleship
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. 31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. 33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. 34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned? 35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Luke+14&ver=kjv (http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Luke+14&ver=kjv)


Completely relevant to our times in this instant.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 14, 2009, 08:25:34 pm
Now BADEand Bidden counted 11 times in the feast chapter is related to another message that came through related to Bade and Bidden is AB

Ab is related to "From the beginning"

Here is a study about the the beginning and how it relates to today and how it fits in to this current journey.

BADE, BIDDEN and from the BEGINNINGare all related like a glove.

Here in the following are references of "the end from the beginning" in the Urantia Book and who its related to.

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=end+from+the+beginning

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Results for query "end from the beginning"


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PAPER 6 - THE ETERNAL SON, Oct 19 2000

line 80: The Original Son is universally and spiritually self-conscious. In wisdom the Son is the full equal of the Father. In the realms of knowledge, omniscience, we cannot distinguish between the First and Second Sources; like the Father, the Son knows all; he is never surprised by any universe event; he comprehends the end from the beginning.


PAPER 2 - THE NATURE OF GOD, Oct 19 2000

line 40:           The Father constantly and unfailingly meets the need of the differential of demand for himself as it changes from time to time in various sections of his master universe. The great God knows and understands himself; he is infinitely self-conscious of all his primal attributes of perfection. God is not a cosmic accident; neither is he a universe experimenter. The Universe Sovereigns may engage in adventure; the Constellation Fathers may experiment; the system heads may practice; but the Universal Father sees the end from the beginning, and his divine plan and eternal purpose actually embrace and comprehend all the experiments and all the adventures of all his subordinates in every world, system, and constellation in every universe of his vast domains.


line 55:           Even your olden prophets understood the eternal, never-beginning, never-ending, circular nature of the Universal Father. God is literally and eternally present in his universe of universes. He inhabits the present moment with all his absolute majesty and eternal greatness. "The Father has life in himself, and this life is eternal life." Throughout the eternal ages it has been the Father who "gives to all life." There is infinite perfection in the divine integrity. "I am the Lord; I change not." Our knowledge of the universe of universes discloses not only that he is the Father of lights, but also that in his conduct of interplanetary affairs there "is no variableness neither shadow of changing." He "declares the end from the beginning." He says: "My counsel shall stand; I will do all my pleasures" "according to the eternal purpose which I purposed in my Son." Thus are the plans and purposes of the First Source and Center like himself: eternal, perfect, and forever changeless.

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PAPER 141 - BEGINNING THE PUBLIC WORK, Oct 19 2000

line 124: James was astonished at how Jesus seemed to see the end from the beginning. The Master rarely appeared to be surprised. He was never excited, vexed, or disconcerted. He never apologized to any man. He was at times saddened, but never discouraged.

This journey to the ancient places is about the End from the Beginning, Dalamatia City City is about the Beginning, the first place where the first desolation occurred and I believe its about the End from the Beginning, Truth victorious over untruth from the beginning which means the end of the last rebel and judgment before the 1000 year reign before we receive our first translation temple.

Praise the Lord!

The End from the Beginning!

I believe this journey is part of the ministry of the Jesus and Melchizedek because its an exploration into the beginning of everything on this planet in parallel with prophecy relating to wasted cities and the correction of truth in verification.

In the bible there are references to "the End from the Beginning"

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=the+end+from+the+beginning&ver=kjv

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the end from the beginning   (King James Version)

Deuteronomy 11:12   
A land which the Lord thy God careth for: the eyes of the Lord thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year.


Psalm 119:160 
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.


Ecclesiastes 3:11
He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.


Isaiah 46:10

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

(like in this journey back to ancient times declaring "the end from the beginning" which brings us to the present in prophecy
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Now outside the Bible and the Urantia Book there are also additional references to the end from the beginning.

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GThom 1
And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."
(implies rapture)

and here is another intersecting parallel from the Book of Thomas.

"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end?  For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death,
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Again reflections of this journey to the ancient places with all the characteristics of the end from the beginning.

You find the same reference in the Mormon Book of Abraham

http://scriptures.lds.org/abr/2/8#8

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7 For I am the Lord thy God; I dwell in heaven; the earth is my footstool; I stretch my hand over the sea, and it obeys my voice; I cause the wind and the fire to be my chariot; I say to the mountains—Depart hence—and behold, they are taken away by a whirlwind, in an instant, suddenly.

  8 My name is Jehovah, and I know the end from the beginning; therefore my hand shall be over thee.

  9 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee above measure, and make thy name great among all nations, and thou shalt be a blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear this ministry and Priesthood unto all nations
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The End from the Beginning is everywhere.

Here is an additional search "from the beginning"

Here are some prophetical verses of Isaiah.  "from the beginning"

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=from+the+beginning+&ver=kjv

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Isaiah 18:2
That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled!

Isaiah 18:7 
In that time shall the present be brought unto the Lord of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the Lord of hosts, the mount Zion.

Isaiah 40:21
Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

Isaiah 41:4
Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 41:26   
Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.

Isaiah 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Isaiah 48:3
I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass.

Isaiah 48:5
I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.

Isaiah 48:7 
They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.

Isaiah 48:16
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me
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Much comes from the beginning in prophecy.

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the UB
When a Son of the Eternal Son appeared on Urantia, those who fraternized with this divine being in human form alluded to him as "He who was from the beginning, whom we have heard, whom we have seen with our eyes, whom we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, even the Word of life."

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 14, 2009, 09:09:01 pm
Here is a video that speaks of the near economic term and I believe
all this revealing come for a reason!!

Things dont look good for the world in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJ7LM3iyNg&eurl=http://robertsarmast.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 15, 2009, 02:55:57 pm
Hey Calvin, 12 Apostles

Where are you guys?

Whats happening?

Im getting ready for the ascension of the elect to be presented to Jesus to learn and your nowhere to be seen.

What going on?

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on February 15, 2009, 07:14:58 pm
sevens,

Sunday is a day for worship, not for undermining Gods works. Your information comes from a source other than the Bible.  To trust it may well not just be a most grievous error, but a deep blasphemy!


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on February 15, 2009, 07:15:58 pm
Here is a video that speaks of the near economic term and I believe
all this revealing come for a reason!!

Things dont look good for the world in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJ7LM3iyNg&eurl=http://robertsarmast.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded

Sevens

Yes, but that is because we are in the end times, it has nothing to do with the Urantia Book, friend sevens.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 16, 2009, 08:51:49 pm
All the books of religion are involved in the end times.

Each book has its own contribution.

Even DSC, have you tried reading those.  In some books its about the last teacher of righteousness in the end times.

You know Jesus only lived a few miles from an Essene outpost!  I often wonder if there was interaction between them.  Actualy there is a record of one of Jesus' sermons called the Sevenfold Sermon as recorded by the essenes during the ministry of Jesus.

Have you read that?  or you dont read those things because its not in the bible?? or is it the one book only policy.

Concerning Rapture I dont think all the churches are going because there is much refining for them to go through and more self realisation.  I tend to think that rapture concerns the elect and those who actualy do the will of the Father.

Essentialy, the new Government of the world is being plucked from the planet soon according to my research.


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 16, 2009, 09:01:08 pm
sevens,

Sunday is a day for worship, not for undermining Gods works. Your information comes from a source other than the Bible.  To trust it may well not just be a most grievous error, but a deep blasphemy!

Hold on a minute Isnt Friday worshipped as a Shabbes by the Jewish people?

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Shabbat or Shabbos (Hebrew: שַׁבָּת, shabbāt, shabbes, "rest/inactivity"), is the weekly Sabbath or day of rest in Judaism, Seventh-day Adventism, or Seventh Day Baptism, starting at sundown on Friday till sundown on Saturday, symbolizing the seventh day in Genesis, after the six days of creation. Though it is commonly said to be the Saturday of each week, it is observed from sundown on Friday until the appearance of three stars in the sky on Saturday night. The exact time therefore differs from week to week and from place to place, depending on the time of the sunset.


Does Christianity follow the Jewish Feasts particulary in the end times??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbes

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 17, 2009, 02:13:49 am
http://www.officialdisclosure.com/vatican-disclosure.htm (http://www.officialdisclosure.com/vatican-disclosure.htm)

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Is the Vatican easing humanity toward alien disclosure?
Church astronomer latest to speak of "space brothers"

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Posted: May 18, 2008
8:35 pm Eastern

© 2008 RaidersNewsNetwork
Thomas Horn

May 18, 2008 – (Raiders News Network) Vatican chief astronomer Father Jose Gabriel Funes in a long interview with the L'Osservatore Romano newspaper this week made news by saying there is a certain possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, and that such notion "doesn't contradict our faith." 

"How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere? Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation," he said.

The statements by Funes are the latest in a string of recent comments by Vatican astronomers confirming a belief that discovery may be made in the near future of alien life, including intelligent life, and that this discovery would not unhinge the doctrine of Christ.

In 2005, another Vatican astronomer, Guy Consolmagno tackled this subject in a 50-page booklet, Intelligent Life in the Universe, in which he concluded that chances are better than not that mankind is facing a future discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence.

Approximately 7 years ago Monsignor Corrado Balducci made similar news when he said ETs were actually already interacting with earth and that some of the Vatican's leaders were aware of it.

Before his death in 1999, maverick Catholic theologian Father Malachi Martin hinted at such more than once. In 1997, while on Coast to Coast AM radio, Art Bell asked him why the Vatican was heavily invested in the study of deep space at Mt Graham Observatory in southeastern Arizona. As a retired professor of the Pontifical Biblical Institute, Father Martin was uniquely qualified to hold in secret, information pertaining to the Vatican's Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) project at the Mount Graham International Observatory (MGIO). Martin's answer ignited a firestorm of interest among Christian and secular UFOlogists when he said, "Because the mentality... amongst those who [are] at the... highest levels of Vatican administration and geopolitics, know that, now, knowledge of what's going on in space, and what's approaching us, could be of great import in the next five years, ten years."

Those cryptic words "...what's approaching us, could be of great import in the next five years, ten years," was followed in subsequent interviews with discussion of a mysterious "sign in the sky" that Malachi believed was approaching from the North. People familiar with Malachi believe he may have been referring to a near-future arrival of alien intelligence.

If ET life is something Vatican officials have privately considered for some time, why speak of it so openly now, in what some perceive as a careful doctrinal unveiling over the last 24 months? Is this a deliberate effort by church officials to "warm-up" the laity to ET Disclosure? Are official church publications on the subject an attempt to soften the blow before disclosure arrives, in order to help the faithful retain their orthodoxy in light of unprecedented forthcoming knowledge?

There might be a more mundane explanation for the Vatican's recent interest in all things spacey.

Writing on Thursday, May 15th for Newsweek (The Vatican and Little Green Men), Sharon Begley noted that "[this] might be part of a push to demonstrate the Vatican’s embrace of science (in 1992 it apologized for that whole unfortunate Galileo mess, after all)... Interestingly, the Vatican has plans to host a conference in Rome next spring to mark the 150th anniversary of the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin’s seminal work on the theory of evolution. Conference organizers say it will look beyond entrenched ideological positions—  including misconstrued creationism. The Vatican says it wants to reconsider the problem of evolution  'with a broader perspective' and says an 'appropriate consideration is needed more than ever before.'"
 
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The 'appropriate consideration' Begley mentions may have been alluded to by Guy Consolmagno two years ago in an interview with the Sunday Herald. That article pointed out how Consolmagno's job included reconciling "the wildest reaches of science fiction with the flint-eyed dogma of the Holy See" and that his latest mental meander was about "the Jesus Seed" - "a brain-warping theory which speculates that, perhaps, every planet that harbours intelligent, self-aware life may also have had a Christ walk across its methane seas, just as Jesus... did here on Earth in Galilee. The salvation of the Betelguesians may have happened simultaneously with the salvation of the Earthlings," the article said. This sounds a bit like holy panspermia to me -- the idea that life on earth was "seeded" by something such as an asteroid impact -- but in this case "the seed" was divinely appointed and reconciled to Jesus / God.

Do other religions agree with the Vatican on ET brethren?

Following L'Osservatore Romano's interview with Jose Funes, Muslim and Jewish leaders joined to say their religion could accommodate an ET reality, while a scholar for the Russian Orthodoxy excluded the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence.

The question of how the world's political and religious communities would respond if suddenly faced with visitors from beyond is something world religions and even the US Government has studied. Paul Davies of The Atlantic Monthly wrote in 2003 that the discovery of even a single bacterium somewhere beyond Earth could force mankind to revise its understanding of who we are and where we fit into the cosmic scheme of things. Davies speculated that such a find could throw the human race into a spiritual identity crisis that could leave some gasping for faith in God.

In contrast, the Alexander UFO Religious Crisis Survey of ministers indicated that a majority of people--both religious and non-religious--not only believe in but could accept an ET reality without throwing God out with the bathwater.

Davies hopes this is true. As a cosmologist he sees order in the universe, including the anthropic balances that make life possible elsewhere. This has led to a deep personal interest in the subject of God and ET in which his response to either an ET discovery or visitation would be compatible to his religious ideas. He says the discovery of extraterrestrial life might actually substantiate biblical creation, not challenge it, if mankind is--as the Alexander UFO Religious Crisis Survey suggests--ready for it.
 
A fresco located above the altar at the Visoki Decani Monestary in Kosovo, Yugoslavia shows "The Crucifixion," a painting made in 1350. Two flying objects with beings inside them are visible in the top left and right of the fresco.
 
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Professor Anthony Tambasco of Georgetown University not only believes the world--including its religious people--is ready for ET, but responding to NASA's recent press releases about life potentially existing on Mars, he said that if the discovery of life is substantiated, "it will not unravel traditional biblical convictions, but rather provide an opportunity to enlarge or broaden them."

In a related CCN article, Sayyid Syeed of the Islamic Society of North America said, "Most Muslims would also welcome the discovery of life off of Earth." The Koran refers to Allah as the God of 'worlds,' he said, not just one world.

Rabbi James Ruden of the American Jewish Committee says most Jews also leave open the possibility of life on other planets in their interpretation of Genesis.

But What If ET Is Already Here, And He's the Devil?

Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) are historically connected to the idea of extraterrestrial life. In some cases, behavior of these strange sightings have left witnesses feeling as if they had observed something alive, not mechanical. "I have become thoroughly convinced that UFOs are real," popular Christian writer Hal Lindsey once wrote. "I believe these beings are not only extraterrestrial but supernatural in origin. To be blunt, I think they are demons."

In Angels Dark and Light, Gary Kinnaman accepts UFO sightings as the manifestations of angels of darkness. "My main reason for thinking this is that UFO sightings have never, at least to my knowledge, led a person closer to God. In fact, most UFO experiences have just the opposite effect."

Associate professor of psychology Elizabeth L. Hillstrom points out in her book Testing the Spirits that a growing number of scholars support similar conclusions of UFOnauts being synonymous with historical demons:

From a Christian perspective, Vallee’s explanation of UFOs is the most striking because of its parallels with demonic activity. UFO investigators have noticed these similarities. Vallee himself, drawing from extrabiblical literature on demonic activities, establishes a number of parallels between UFOnauts and demons....Pierre Guerin, a UFO researcher and a scientist associated with the French National Council for Scientific Research, is not so cautious: "The modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably identical." Veteran researcher John Keel, who wrote UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse and other books on the subject, comes to the same conclusion: "The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon."

Other theologians caution against connecting UFOs with demonology. They say if UFOs represent anything supernatural at all, the unidentified objects could be manifestations of good angels, while phenomenon such as so-called alien abduction is more in line with manifestations of demons. In other words, good "Watchers" observe earth from UFOs (using what one evangelical theologian recently referred to as "celestial conveyances") while fallen Watchers such as those spoken of in the apocryphal Book of Enoch do evil.

 
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Whatever intelligence is behind much of this mysterious heavenly activity, one thing is for sure, a long history of UFO sightings in connection to momentous or major religious historical events exists, as illustrated in the images included in this article.

Regardless of the position one takes on UFOs specifically, the possibility of open contact with intelligent extraterrestrial life has never been better according to those who study deep space for the Vatican.
  Looks like the Catholic Church are considering many things which is Good, least there is a mainline religion prepared to look at these things and face the truth head on and speak about it.

Least the Catholic Church are taking the lead in the truth of everything. It appears that they are reviewing the whole truth, from top to bottom and they should and if they are bold, they will be blessed for being honest and sincere in this case and I would encourage them further in the update of religion. There are Doctrines which are not correct and now would be a good time to review.

I wish them well in there review of things and I hope they are considering the Urantia truth, actually Im sure they are reviewing the whole thing and blending it with all the books to bring a higher understand in a more expanded field.

Obviously the Local System Headquarters would support that and compliment there direction of review by there own response in space. If I am right in this hunch well I bless the Pope in his review and I think the Pope is not to bad to look at things with a honest heart in this case and I hope its the same in all future cases no matter how challenging it is. I encourage him further for sure and perhaps the Catholic Church can take the lead in this great review for other religions.

That's all that is required a good non violent review of all things with truth leading the pathway and being honest about it. Man would respect that more than anything regardless of all the conspiratorial BS.

If the Catholic Church continues in this good path of review it will not be that bad in the winnowing and actually they might be quite successfull in pathway of change for the future. Its is a far better step than going back to the past things which are obsolete now.

Like with individuals and other corporate bodies if they dont review and widen there viewpoint and continue to resist the evolution of progress then they will desist as the truth will pass them by.
 
sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 17, 2009, 02:15:31 am
Here is a link to some videos that I really enjoyed.

I think you will enjoy them to.

http://www.tangle.com/uvideos?UID=328029&type=public (http://www.tangle.com/uvideos?UID=328029&type=public)

The prophets of old were very good in describing the current events.

Essentially, Islam will make peace but then will use the peace to make war. Simple as that as that has been there method in all there warfare.

I can see clearly how the pres of Iran is trying to pave the way for Mahdi which I think is the Anti Christ considering the aggressive tone of death and destruction.

I just so glad that Jesus lives and he his hand on the situation and I'm so glad there is an escape clause through the rapture avoiding the experience of this this awful Anti christ figure that the pres of Iran is trying to set up thinking he is some Messiah! who destroys things and imposes his ideas over people!

Obviously the Seven year will be under the rule of some religious deceptive figure but his reign is cut short through is own mistakes and he does get destroyed including his friends and that means countries.

Honestly speaking the system in Iran will only last Seven years of rule after the rapture and then will be get destroyed including the current regime and its manipulators.

Obviously Jesus comes and that is it.....the end!

Islam you will not be successful in your ultimate goal if you tread the path of death and destruction under the deception of peace. Also countries that support satellite states and use them for political purposes no matter of the loss of life through war used in a diversion will be destroyed ultimately and will not reach there goal. And those who disobey the Lord will not pass to Paradise and perhaps suffer personality extinction.

The Father of all things will intervene and will protect his people Israel and beside that Islam will not last into the new world with Jesus at the head of Governance!

If Islam maintains its current path it will be destoyed! inlcuding all those who use peace to decieve and make war, they will be destroyed and will never make it into Paradise.

That is the hard truth for Islam from the Local System Headquarters! 

If you have a complaint I suggest you pray to the Ancient Days and put up a petition in the Universal courts of Justice buddy!  That can be done by an induvidual!

From Paradises view War is illegal, its wrong, it should never happen as we have a mind and you will not pass to Paradise in the spiritual motivation of war and inflicting pain using the name of Paradise in order to decieve people in throwing there life away.

Thats the Law!

Only Jesus can fix this up, He is the only one.  I complain about it but it is Jesus the only one that can remedy this problem.

You know this is a real product of the Crusade period, this hatred and it takes intelligence and spirituality with the truth of everything to arise from this.  This is why these past wounds still bare with us today, it really comes from that fatal mistake of the Church going to war in Jesus' name in the 1st Crusade.

I know it was a matter of survival then but it was a mistake in hindsight and off course we are heading for it again by the looks of it.

It would be an utter Sin to import a Nuclear Device into Jerusalem, the Capital of the Melchizedek, Sage of Salem and blow the place up. I pray to the Father from this Sevenfold outpost that the Father in Heaven safeguard Israel from this act and this never happens.


Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on February 17, 2009, 02:17:18 am
It just ocurred to me like on the Videos but from a spiritual perspective

That the plan of the Last Rebel is to blow up the Capital of the Melchizedek as a going away symbolic gesture of his ultimate hatred towards the Father, Jesus and Melchizedek.  The last Rebel is truly gone insane including his physical children.  Thats the intention to blow the Meclhizedek capital and has no care for the humans there which includes all humanity in the area.  Thats his goal!  Its has all to do with the Melchizedek and physical children!  He going to blow Jerusalem up if he can.  That would be his ultimate goal in this case and he will do it as the video suggests through peace as written in the Bible.  That would tie in everything found regarding this end time event.  I think the Pastor is right on the mark.  Good on him!

But dont Iran understand that they will come under the same plight by a response.  And then Russia will respond and USA will respond.  Total world annihilation!  Jerusalem would be the starting pointing in order to create a world wide holocaust and therefore wipe out the species!

Thats his only thought and current motivation.  If you want to save the world, Jerusalem must be saved at all costs.

Worldwide annihilation would begin Jerusalem Wow! I can see the construct and the importance of its protection.

He the Last Rebel is trying to wipe us out and thats why rapture comes and perhaps another rapture at the end.  I dont know but that would be logical as there would be a remnant on the planet that are salvable.  That would mean that whole planet is emptied by a series of rapture processes.

Now think about this fragment

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PAPER 51 - THE PLANETARY ADAMS, Oct 19 2000

    * line 55: While there is this dematerializing technique for preparing the Adams for transit from Jerusem to the evolutionary worlds, there is no equivalent method for taking them away from such worlds unless the entire planet is to be emptied, in which event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for the entire salvable population

and furthe Check this out

If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all survivors, and by seraphic transport these beings would be carried away to the new world prepared for their continuing existence[/b]. The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a world of space,  must proceed quite independently of the physical survival of that planet, but during the evolutionary ages it is not otherwise intended that a Planetary Adam or Eve shall leave their chosen world
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...............................
unless the entire planet is to be emptied,
event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique
some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all survivors,
The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a world of space,
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You piece all the above fragments and compare that to the desires of the Last Rebel working through Human agents who, in their delusion are helping to the Last Rebel to annihilate the Human race through Nuclear Holocaust.

A nuclear Holocaust would be 

some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all survivors,

where the whole planet has to be emptied

unless the entire planet is to be emptied,

through an event, an emergency event like a Manmade event perhaps not from space like Meteor but through a Nuclear Holocaust!

event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique

The "dematerialization technique"  is all about Rapture.

The Urantia Book Confirms RAPTURE and we are heading for Ground Zero Human Race through Nuclear ground Zero which would mean a staged rapture process because its based on faith and many people still have to learn the truth, that's why its a staged rapture process so it gives people time to know everything about everything and then make the decision based on faith! That's the mercy of the Father and of Jesus to organize this in this way, to save as many people as possible from Nuclear Holocaust. Dont hold onto material things! or say III check back with you or some time later or try some stupid delay or even being full of prejudice, this is about survival, we either evolve quickly or we simply desist!

Obviously many people will spurn, scorn and so forth and they are the ones that will perish because they have no faith or faith in the wrong things and fail any rapture process.

The Melchizedeks organize the rapture and those who make rapture are the children of the Melchizedek and therefore Jesus children.....US praise the Lord!.

That's the faith we have in Jesus! hooray I celebrate already!

The first fruits rapture of the elect will be the ones who do this work on any level I suppose and who are out warning people and watching. I presume.

The ones that ignored or whatever in the first rapture will learn from the recent rapture experience and from the information left behind. Then comes a real quickening and then perhaps Seven years later, a second coming coming occurs for the remnant before planet Earth blows up and becomes inhabitable or perhaps we all come back again in Seven years. Im thinking about it.

If we are taken to another planet I figure the life carriers and other agents will rehabilitate the planet from a waste land to a garden of Eden and then we come back to a renovated earth.

I think the salvable have to be off planet when the Justice broadcast comes. It will be like a huge roar where the sound vibration melts the mountains and those mad men remaining will not be found in there places, they will disappear perhaps in molten lava.

Like a pit of fire literally as described in the bible.

This is why the Magnetars have been flashing us because they are signals, the signs in Heaven that we can interpret. See what happens eh!

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: Dark Goddess on March 10, 2009, 12:37:20 am
No WAY can we empty the planet, sevens.  As for a nuclear holocaust, how is one supposed to start?  We aren't at war with anyone, how is one supposed to statt, with China?


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on April 07, 2009, 11:47:59 pm
I get the feeling that sevens has deserted us.  Could it be that he has finally seen the error of his ways in following the Urantia Book and gone off to pray for forgiveness?

One can only hope.


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 09, 2009, 09:10:35 pm
Nup, no way 12 apostles

There is much happening.

Dark Godess

The Universal administraton will evacuate the planet if it requires.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 13, 2009, 01:17:20 am
Actualy 12 Apostles

Since your post, here is the work I have been doing for mankind and his success in Jesus our Lord and Master.

http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=950&p=59270#p59270

What have you been doing??

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 13, 2009, 01:20:18 am
Here is a link about the reserve corp of destiny as reflected in the Damascus Document  DSC.

It is completely reflective to what we see today.

http://www.world-destiny.org/bbg/Cosmic%20Reserve%20Corps.aspx

"all the glory of Adam",

It has to be about the expeditions to 1stEden of Cyprus and the complete journey which includes, precisely this journey.  This is about the "the Glory of Adam"....1stEden, The all in the verse in my mind means all the other ancient cities including Dalamatia City and Vans highland place.  This journey is a direct extension of the journey of Eden where every man in this journey do things according to his will which happens to be the Fathers will concerning 1stEden.

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19 And He built them a sure house in Israel [the like of which never arose from of old nor until

20 this day]. They who hold fast to him are for the life of eternity, And all the glory of man (Adam) is for them. As

It means that the final message comes from the Beginning which precisely means 1stEden.

Its the journey everyone. 

I think it has been identified with precision in the DSC.

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I Enoch 39:1 — And it shall come to pass in those days that elect and holy children will descend from the high heaven, and their seed will become one with the children of men.

Just beautiful

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I Enoch 39:1 — And it shall come to pass in those days that elect and holy children will descend from the high heaven, and their seed will become one with the children of men.

The Father is revealing the former glories of the past.

Here is a glimpse of the Reserve Destiny Corp.



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I offer Gaster's version because I feel it better captures the nature of these people:

those elect of Israel that have been designated by name and that shall go on functioning in the last days.

Behold, their names have been specified,

the families into which they are to be born,


the epochs in which they are to function,

the full tale of their tribulations,

the length of their sojourn in exile,

and the precise nature of their deeds
.



Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on April 13, 2009, 05:43:50 pm
Here is an update on the shabbes timeline, a thought I had.

(http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarSabbath.jpg)
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm (http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm)
sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on May 30, 2009, 05:06:18 am
Here is something that fulfills prophecy

(http://www.dalamatiacity.com/sevenCircle.jpg)

Synchronicity with the Shabbes/Seventh timeline and of the Universal Government through the Crop Circles. It could be the effect of the broadcast circuits ready to fully open. The first broadcast with the Executionary broadcast of the Last Rebel who still remains on this planet.

I think this is getting very serious beyond all the crap and should be fully investigated. Forget about all the doctrine and dogma this would be the path of Safety through the shadow of the valley of Death from Space! Perhaps through an Magnetar blast coupled with a EMP shock to the system.

Jesus from the Sevenfold Peace of the Essenes papers.

Thou shalt travel the Seven Paths
Of the Infinite Garden

and

The paths are seven
Through the Infinite Garden

The Infinite Garden is Space.

By the way this post wiped out an Christian End Time board where the controllers wanted the board taken down.  This post was the very last straw that broke the back of the coward controllers.  This last post was one of the most intriguing things I have seen in the journey to the beginnings.

sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on July 31, 2009, 11:20:47 pm
The Shabbes Timeline

(http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath1.jpg)

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath1.htm (http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath1.htm)

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: sevens on October 07, 2009, 06:50:11 pm
Here is the latest time line and perhaps the last calculation.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath3.htm (with links)

(http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath3.jpg)


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath4.htm (for links)

(http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath4.jpg)

I have brought Enoch, Daniel and Baruch together and the Last crop circle for 2009 so far and it all matches.  I even have connection to Jesus dying words reciting within himself verses out of Psalm 20, 21,22.  I believe he sent us an encrypted message as to the possible time.  Its has strong metaphor to the point in time that appears to have perfect oneness.

In summary here are the main points of this calculation than unites many things in a blend.

For example:

  • Light without Heat Magnetar from deep space a as reference point.
    The "S" crop circle set in 8 foot maize and its physical replication of the Seventh Part of the Shabbes timeline to orecision to the hour.
  • Daniel, Enoch and Baruch description of the physical Seventh timeline with precision thus unifying the timeline prophecies all coming together with perfection and unity in the timeline.
  • The uncanny nature of the dates numbers in the Gregorian and Jewish calendar being the same but oppposite numbers at either end thus resembling a circle. A never ending cycle or circle at the beginning and End of the Seventh Part of the Shabbes.  A eternal signature in time, the never ending.
  • The timeline encompasses all feasts and in the last feast 15 Shvat is equidistant 7 days from the central Midwayer focus point, and 14 days from the beginning of the Shvat month.
  • There appears to be reflections of Sevens in the central circle tied in with the Jewish date of the 12th circle and I think has common seven links to a birthdate.

and many more things.

I'm sure this is the final calculation, I've never seen perfection in Time/Space forming a oneness from so many so called independent sources coupled with other phoenomena.

I reckon, I have cracked Daniels mystery including Enoch but then we have to wait and see if this is right as we head towards the 1335th day.

Sevens


Title: Re: Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book
Post by: 12 Apostles on March 18, 2010, 01:53:14 am
sevens, lovely graphics!  However, you are still on a false path by not following the one true book.  You must repent  and change course before it is too late!