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Title: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 21, 2013, 12:16:02 pm
 :)

Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
It's been a long time since I have kicked off a new topic.

It's a question that scientists, thinkers, and dreamers have pondered. Now, let's place ourselves on an interstellar space station..
We are traversing the cosmos at millions of miles an hour to finally arrive in orbit around a new planet.
Now, I won't go in to how our world is here. It's merely a matter of opinion as we have seen in past conversations.
Yet, if I was going to create a fresh start on a new planet. What kind of life could we have by establishing new ideas and systems?

When replying to this, consider the outcome of what you would want.
It's definitely an interesting thing to think about.  ;)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 21, 2013, 12:26:13 pm
P.s.... I'm on Facebook too.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on August 22, 2013, 12:29:20 am
Hiya Harry,

I would start it out like this - no marriage, no religion, no laws of any kind other than one: people can't go around hurting each other! That takes care of war, murder, all that stuff. And no marriage cause then people could screw whoever they want with no guilt!  ;)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 22, 2013, 01:48:17 pm
lol



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on August 22, 2013, 02:15:56 pm
Hiya Harry,

I would start it out like this - no marriage, no religion, no laws of any kind other than one: people can't go around hurting each other! That takes care of war, murder, all that stuff. And no marriage cause then people could screw whoever they want with no guilt!  ;)

Oh that's brilliant !!!!!    ::)  Soon you have a nation of bastard children that no one will claim responsibility for.... then what.... you'll be repeating what goes on in the ghettos on Earth.... crime, poverty, welfare, and eventually a collapsed civilization.

What would be the name of this planet....  ?   Feministia

No thanks....

I'd bring a Bible and the US Constitition for starters then all the 27 Amendments.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 22, 2013, 05:51:50 pm
One of the fist things I would suggest in a debate like this is having a system in place for all the decision making.
We have seen so many other systems of government and politics become corrupt from democracies, to communism.
I see a future population of a newly colonized planet being relatively small, so ideas brought to public attention could be decided on by the whole population...
A poll would present the idea, and goal behind it. Then people could use a communication device of any style to vote, and even offer an opinion about it.

My personal ideas would be things like;
 No killing, No Raping or abuse, and No damage will be done to the planet/ecology whatsoever.
This in turn would be voted on by the population and if elected, would be the law.
Once these three fundamental things were put into place, think of the outcome.  :)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 22, 2013, 05:57:48 pm
Hiya Harry,

I would start it out like this - no marriage, no religion, no laws of any kind other than one: people can't go around hurting each other! That takes care of war, murder, all that stuff. And no marriage cause then people could screw whoever they want with no guilt!  ;)

Oh that's brilliant !!!!!    ::)  Soon you have a nation of bastard children that no one will claim responsibility for.... then what.... you'll be repeating what goes on in the ghettos on Earth.... crime, poverty, welfare, and eventually a collapsed civilization.

What would be the name of this planet....  ?   Feministia

No thanks....

I'd bring a Bible and the US Constitition for starters then all the 27 Amendments.

Rebel, I'm sure Rachel ment no pun brother.... Settle down man. I mean if you really get down to it, the idea has a small amount of real merit here.
Sure there would be an increase of births. However, if the consenting individuals involved understand the consequence of these acts and agree to act responsibly.
The increase of population would certainly help in ensuring the survival of the human race.  ;)  Besides, random partners exist all through nature. Humans are the only species to adopt marriage in to it's social order.

I do like the concept of creating our life philosophies around what the bible and free masons have established here. Yet it's the basis of those things and there outcomes that must be more carefully thought out.
Just saying. May I also add- with no government in place, money might for once be replaced by contribution to building resources that everyone benefits from.....Your social merit is based on what you contribute to the good of all.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 22, 2013, 06:10:40 pm
I am seeing tons of hits from guests viewing this topic....
One thought about this is, replying without registation... Give them a number and allow the guests to comment?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on August 24, 2013, 03:04:18 pm
Gee Rebeletarian, I thought we were starting from scratch on the new world, not carrying over the values of the old one.

First off, the reason you refer to illegitimate children as "bastards" is because of religion, which has these 2,000 years of teachings that sexual urges should be repressed and that you are supposed to be married first.

Who cares? Seems to me that people should stick together as long as they are in love, leave when they are not. Also, sex is not wrong, people's sex lives are nobody's business!

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I'd bring a Bible and the US Constitition for starters then all the 27 Amendments.

Then what is the point of even going to a new world in the first place? We have all the Bible thumpers you could ever want, not to mention more laws than you would know what to do with! You call this freedom..?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on August 24, 2013, 03:07:58 pm
I am seeing tons of hits from guests viewing this topic....
One thought about this is, replying without registation... Give them a number and allow the guests to comment?


Harry, I don't think you can reply without registration, on the other hand, people can register if they want!

Rachel


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Volitzer on August 24, 2013, 03:34:19 pm
Hiya Harry,

I would start it out like this - no marriage, no religion, no laws of any kind other than one: people can't go around hurting each other! That takes care of war, murder, all that stuff. And no marriage cause then people could screw whoever they want with no guilt!  ;)

Oh that's brilliant !!!!!    ::)  Soon you have a nation of bastard children that no one will claim responsibility for.... then what.... you'll be repeating what goes on in the ghettos on Earth.... crime, poverty, welfare, and eventually a collapsed civilization.

What would be the name of this planet....  ?   Feministia

No thanks....

I'd bring a Bible and the US Constitition for starters then all the 27 Amendments.

Rebel, I'm sure Rachel ment no pun brother.... Settle down man. I mean if you really get down to it, the idea has a small amount of real merit here.
Sure there would be an increase of births. However, if the consenting individuals involved understand the consequence of these acts and agree to act responsibly.
The increase of population would certainly help in ensuring the survival of the human race.  ;)  Besides, random partners exist all through nature. Humans are the only species to adopt marriage in to it's social order.

I do like the concept of creating our life philosophies around what the bible and free masons have established here. Yet it's the basis of those things and there outcomes that must be more carefully thought out.
Just saying. May I also add- with no government in place, money might for once be replaced by contribution to building resources that everyone benefits from.....Your social merit is based on what you contribute to the good of all.


Rebel is right, just cuz you go to a new planet doesn't mean you forget human history.  There are many planets out there that used to be just like Earth but finding GOD, as a being who sits between the nuosphere and the vacuusphere (out space) and living with his directives in mind has allowed for many a technologically advanced and prosperous civilization.   Stuff like Star Wars and Star Trek is made for people on Earth to show that human behaviors do carry over and the lessons learned from history and science need to be transferred over.  Many ET civilizations are just fine with us staying confined to our planet until we marry spirituality and technological development.  Would you want any Jerry Springer yay-hoo or Globalist sicko in control of a Starship ?  Neither would any other Lyran (human) civilization living on other worlds around Orion, Andromeda, Lyrae Star System, the Pleadies etc.

The reason we don't have a nuclear World War 3 on Earth is cuz Mercury and Mars had civilizations on them that had nuclear wars and made their planet surfaces uninhabitable.  UFOs are sent to this planet to act as a kill switch to all the nuclear nations on Earth to keep a nuclear tragedy from happening here.  No matter how out of control the Russians, Chi-Coms and the Globalists get.

You have to be as spiritual as well as technical before any Lyran shares any info with any Earth being.  Until Earth people adopt a Roddenberry/Adamski mindset we will mire in our own corruption for eons more.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 24, 2013, 04:11:36 pm
I am seeing tons of hits from guests viewing this topic....
One thought about this is, replying without registation... Give them a number and allow the guests to comment?


Harry, I don't think you can reply without registration, on the other hand, people can register if they want!

Rachel

:) Which is my preference as well.... It was more to spur the horse sort of speak.
Please, continue... lol


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 24, 2013, 04:17:38 pm
Zolitzer, hello... Long time Bud.

In regard to what you are expressing. New ideas and well habits could teach us more about being spiritual in nature.
In a sense, we limit our own imaginations by preoccupying this perception of reality.
To experience something out of the popular way to think about everything, we must live outside the box we have collectively invented.
I believe that sums up what we are both saying?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Volitzer on August 24, 2013, 04:25:39 pm
Yeah in class taking up airframe and powerplant mechanics.

Finally done being unemployed.     :D


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 24, 2013, 04:32:11 pm
Nice! That is awesome. Still in NY?



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 24, 2013, 04:44:05 pm
For the sake of this conversation, may I create an image to work with....

It's been 12 years since we left Earth. Now we have established an orbit around a more geologically stable and totally alive new planet.
Greens and browns, with turquoise waters. Equal if not even more beautiful then the Earth we left behind. Untouched paradise.
 Repeating the negative ways of our existence is not an option.

With that in mind, what would you contribute to the human experience for it's benefit?

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080325130040/memoryalpha/en/images/d/dd/Omicron_Ceti_III_remastered.jpg)(http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/cavatars/atlantisonline/avatar_132.png)


Welcome to the planet Eden.
;)




Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Sarah on August 26, 2013, 12:39:45 am
No investment banking, in fact no banks!  We'd work on the barter system, a big field where vegetables are planted. Only natural drugs, herbs and weed allowed. People wouldn't be allowed to be rich, nor would they be allowed to be poor. No masters and no slaves. No workers and no employers.  All would work together for the common good, and when a child is born, the entire community would see it as its responsibility to raise it, not just the parents.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 26, 2013, 05:52:58 am
 :D Wish we had a "like" Button..... Thanks Sarah.
Ideally a new system would emerge, that would not involve the reward of monetary exchange.
 Accreditation‎ for all needed resources produced would entitle you to all you want and need.
Your Merit is how much you earn. Power, water, food, shelter, flight, and so on is all yours.
And it's up to you to provide and you will receive.

Philosophically, worthy of voting in as a part of the plan for establishing new systems.
Agree or disagree?




Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 26, 2013, 03:42:15 pm
For fun, we could pretend we are all still aboard our interplanetary space station. (The Exodus)
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,2564.0.html

We hold an open think tank online station wide to vote for ideas about how we are going to care for the planet below.
How we are going to care for one another. What kinds of things could we do to ensure that our ideas will be implemented, and so on.

What types of things would you all suggest, and in what catagory would you place your ideas in?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Warhammer on August 26, 2013, 09:56:51 pm
I like the idea of no banking and no marriages. What I would also suggest is, no money! We'd plant seeds and eat off the land. The Atlanteans were said to have a large rectangular plain that was said to feed the whole place, we'd have the same!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 26, 2013, 10:05:48 pm
We could vote on the name of the first colony, and call it Atlantis Prime?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HEX on August 26, 2013, 11:49:08 pm
No technology - cell phones, TVs, internet, computers, all banned.  They haven't brought the world closer together, made us drift all the further apart.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 27, 2013, 05:48:57 am
No technology - cell phones, TVs, internet, computers, all banned.  They haven't brought the world closer together, made us drift all the further apart.


I don't completely disagree. From a spiritual sense, we aren't as connected as we were when the world was full with hunters and gatherers.

I guess to discover what would be better we would need to ask volunteers to participate in an experiment lasting 2 years.
One small colony living with technology and one small colony living completely without cell phones, TVs, internet, computers.
From this, what do you think we would learn?
 :)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 27, 2013, 04:27:16 pm
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 :)

Imagine this coming up on your television, and you were asked to vote using your remote control.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Desiree on August 27, 2013, 10:32:14 pm
I would hate the no tech thing. Do people really believe we'd be better off without phones? How would we contact someone far away? If we had no TV or internet, how would we know what was going on in the rest of the world?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 28, 2013, 08:33:39 am
 :) I have something that a friend of mine wrote on facebook that I want to show all of you.
 It is spot on with what we are discussing in terms of a philosophy/moral that complements this thread.

Earth will be fully established, and will take a few more years after that to rebuild many new Earth communities.

After we move to New Earth. We will still have animals, forest, rivers and lakes, grass and birds. However, the Sun will be more bright, yet it will not feel so hot. Everything around us will have more colors and things will look sharper, fresh, and brighter. Not very many people will be here, because many will choose to go to their original home world.

New Earth will not have religions, nor church systems. There will be no political parties, policymakers, rulers, or leaders. We will have universal rights and there will not be strict laws or regulations on living. The new social system will function on the Universal Law of One.

The most important thing about new Earth is how humanity will live. Presently on our planet, we have many disadvantaged groups like people who are homeless, sick, cannot afford a house or have enough food to eat. We have many types of religions around the world and every country has their own laws and rules. We have bad countries that like to hurt people, and there are people that do horrible things to other people. Those behaviors or actions will not exist on new Earth.

All the established careers currently in place such as in governmental, military/police, celebrities, tabloids, legal/taxation systems, banking/financial sector, and various other institutions, will not exist on new Earth in any way, shape or form.

When we move into new Earth, everyone will be treated equally. It will be a world of love, peace, and mutual respect. Everyone will be kind and loving towards each other. Every single person will have the same quality of life. On new Earth, every person will have the same luxuries and we all look after the welfare of each other. Every person will receive free food, cloths, housing, and education. Everyone will have abundance. There will be jobs to contribute to the new Earth projects, working together as a united world, but you will no longer have to focus on survival and struggle to exist, because there will be no monetary system.

On the material level, you will see that on the new Earth, people will be more satisfied with simple means. They will be more respectful towards Earth and have a lifestyle that is more in harmony with nature. Instead of nourishing themselves with material things they will satisfy themselves with spiritual ‘food’. They will feel nourished by the relationships they have with themselves, with nature and with other people.

Living on new Earth means, every single person will be united and equal, without any competition. In our current world, some people think they are more important than other people, and some people have more things than others. All living things that reside on the planet will be respected. New Earth will operate as one large united world, meaning you can live anywhere on the planet, without any passports or restrictions.

Everyone will follow the universal principles of of Unconditional Love, Unity, and our faith in the Creator. The Creator is the Life Force Energy that exists everywhere and within everything in the universe. All of us are connected to the Creator and this is the reason we will live by the simple law of love and unity.

Our new world will be more relaxed, stress free and you will have a healthier lifestyle, which means you will live much longer on new Earth.

THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN EVERYONE UNITES AS ONE. LOVING SELF AND OTHERS AS ONE ♥ ♥ ♥


Question:  Are you starting to notice New Earth is forming already?
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posted by:
Gordana Carich


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 28, 2013, 08:50:23 am
I would hate the no tech thing. Do people really believe we'd be better off without phones? How would we contact someone far away? If we had no TV or internet, how would we know what was going on in the rest of the world?

To get to a new planet, raising the bars on new technologies is kind of a must....
Once we got to a new world, we could probably place less interest in technologies and more interest in the resulting peace and understandings that make us human.
Loving our lives has never been more important then it is today. Love is a fundamental law of human nature.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 29, 2013, 04:37:21 pm
We place a lot of worry into everything these days. In my feeds I see threats of ww3, economic failure, and so many other things that suggest that people are fearful.
I can't offer a solution to the situations our world governments create. I can say though, that fear is what has set us all apart from the beginning. It is one of two root emotions we experience. Fear and Love, are what all other emotions come from. Externally, we live in a world that our internal energies create. The illusion is what is going on around us. Whats real is the energy we emit. With that in mind, what would you rather create with your individual energy? This is what manifests the future we will know tomarrow.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 30, 2013, 09:15:45 pm
 :)

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’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone - if possible - Jew, Gentile - black man - white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness - not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost....

!/images/photos/0000/0874/Great_Dictator_Pub_140-6_normal.jpg! The plane, and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men - cries out for universal brotherhood - for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world - millions of despairing men, women, and little children - victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.

To those who can hear me, I say - do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed - the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish. .....

Soldiers! don’t give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your lives - tell you what to do - what to think and what to feel! Who drill you - diet you - treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural! Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!

In the 17th Chapter of St Luke it is written: “the Kingdom of God is within man” - not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people have the power - the power to create machines. The power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure.

Then - in the name of democracy - let us use that power - let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world - a decent world that will give men a chance to work - that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill that promise. They never will!

Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world - to do away with national barriers - to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all happiness. Soldiers! in the name of democracy, let us all unite!
Charlie Chapman*

I would vote to make this the constitution of a new world.... I have always love this.
We would not be solders who murder and pillage. We would be fighting the war within our very natures to love instead of fear.
http://youtu.be/5IvPIWzQcUY


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Sandra on August 31, 2013, 03:46:51 pm
A bit off topic, but have you done anymore investigations into the paranormal, Herefornow? I was thinking along the lines of investigating supernatural events.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 31, 2013, 04:22:46 pm
A lot of what I've been into lately is historical research for investigations... As for any field work, I've been following UFO activity more then anything.
 :) I feel less burdened by it emotionally. Why did you want to team up? Or were you looking to compare notes?
Sandra Taylor? lol


P.S...


https://www.facebook.com/harry.erie 
You can contact me here on my E-mail...
Check profile here at AO...  ;)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 31, 2013, 10:57:01 pm
Back on topic; Sorta


I did something that probably won't change the world, but it shows a try.
I wrote a letter to Russian president, Vlad Putin.
It started with me explaining that we the American people have protested The acts our all Government
action in recent history and our president will not hear us.
I asked him to speak on behalf of the American people to stop the attack on Syria.
 ;D
For real.. I did that.

http://eng.letters.kremlin.ru/send

This is what I tried;


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 31, 2013, 11:19:16 pm
 ;D

Another friend of mine writes: posted on face book.
GET. THIS. ****. It has *everything* to do with morals at this point- our morals. How do we make this stop??? Every man and woman who serves in any branch of the US mIlitary needs back the **** out. NOW. You can't use "I was just following orders" at this point. You know the difference between right and wrong. And there are no two ways about this. This is SO wrong.

You are being USED for a means that has nothing to do with your safety nor that of "your country". And you are giving your consent freely. The men you work for would have you murder for their means. Your country- these United States of America and their NATO allies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO ) are backing Syrian rebels and framing a government that they (US and the controlling elite) would like very much to acquire. Regardless of the means.

That's all it is- Divide. Conquer. Acquire. You are collateral damage. You are one of many expendable pawns in a plan that is far bigger than you can possibly fathom and if you continue to give your consent in these false flag wars that are more about the elite taking over the world RISK style (this isn't a game anymore) it will only continue to get worse. The people you work for are untouchable because YOU are *their* first line of defense. You do their dirty work for them and therefore they don't have to be held accountable. Who would they have to send if every one just stopped following orders? Are you really worried about the unemployment rate going up? Is that why you're willing to participate? If it's all about the money I don't see any difference whatsoever between you and them.

To be quite honest, I think humanity is SO MUCH **** BETTER THAN THIS. If everyone in the military stopped following orders, we would have to rely on one another. Is that so bad? Human beings *really* helping one another?? Feeding and clothing one another? I just can't see family and friends leaving these folks out in the cold with no place to turn. We would have to give our sense of empathy quite the work out because we'd be implementing the "Love your neighbor as yourself/Treat others as you would like to be treated" standard. We'd be setting a pretty bold example of how it could really work. All of the information is there. All of the resources *are there*. The model simply needs to change. We simply have to choose life. Really, spending trillions of our taxes on the perpetuation of war when we should be caring for one another. When are we going to learn from History and *choose* to take another path?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?? Do you get it yet? Nothing *good* will come of this war. STOP THE MADNESS!
GET. THIS. ****. It has *everything* to do with morals at this point- our morals. How do we make this stop??? Every man and woman who serves in any branch of the US mIlitary needs back the **** out. NOW. You can't use "I was just following orders" at this point. You know the difference between right and wrong. And there are no two ways about this. This is SO wrong.



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on August 31, 2013, 11:31:25 pm
This point is; This is about actively attempt to make a difference here.

On another world, these are the things we could avoid by not repeating the mistakes we have made here.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 01, 2013, 09:58:57 pm
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video science journal; Exodus 1132 geology Dept. Level 1 entry

I sit here unable to stop my thoughts of an Eden from preoccupying my imagination. We deployed our orbiter class star ships, and established an orbit 6 AUs from the newly discovered paradise. The planet is rich with life and it's sub tropical conditions are just right for human colonization. Finally after 5 long years we are almost ready to set foot on our new world.

Staffing will begin in hours and the first humans from planet Earth will be boarding the first orbiters. Science teams are rallying now to be first to board. (smiles Docking alert sounds) Na na na na. I got here first.
I am accompanied by some of our greatest minds. Charles Walcott, Nicolas Stino, Giuseppe Mercalli which makes up our geology department. I will be working under Stino.
In the physics dept. head staffing we have Leonard Susskind, B.L. Theraja, Sol M. Gruner, and James P. Sethna. Aboard the other supply ships are some of humanities greatest engineers, biologists, oceanographers, and name it. I must admit, it is indeed an honor to be among the first of my species to be setting foot on a rock I have never touched before...
Being a geologist was my first and best choice. (End video)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 03, 2013, 11:53:54 am
 :)

Facebook me on this... I see feeds on this like crazy and trust me, it's a popular choice....
Aside from all of this planets problems, What would you contribute to a new planet philosophically?
Or even any new ideas? Wants?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 03, 2013, 09:29:50 pm
To raise the bars on the future of philosophy. Lets take fundamental things like our emotions, and see what we can build more stable foundations upon.

First we have to be honest with ourselves about what and who we are.
One thing that I am still struggling to answer entirely for myself is;
I think that the one thing that expresses LOVE the most isn't found in a word, or discreet gesture. It's in the acts of one's entire being. You will never be perfect. Yet, you don't have to be. The people around you know who you are by what you do and have done. With that in mind; What have you done to SHOW love in your ways?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 05, 2013, 03:30:05 pm
I like the idea of no banking and no marriages. What I would also suggest is, no money! We'd plant seeds and eat off the land. The Atlanteans were said to have a large rectangular plain that was said to feed the whole place, we'd have the same!

Aside from domestic plants we would also have the plants and animals of our new planet to eat.  ;D


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on September 06, 2013, 12:41:01 am
No eating the animals on the new world! If we can do so much with technology, we can also create synthetic meat, like they did in that movie the Fly!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 06, 2013, 02:51:01 pm
Realistically, we would probably pack live stock on something the size of the Exodus.... But, the mineral and vitamin content of alien substances may prove to be extremely beneficial.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Lars Worthington III on September 06, 2013, 11:12:32 pm
Sorry, in a Republican paradise, we would eat nothing but red meat, slaughter as many animals as we could find and feast on as much other artery clogging goodness as we could get our hands on.  Take that, bleeding heart liberals!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 06, 2013, 11:20:24 pm
 ;D *n*a*z*i
These guys are so much fun...


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 06, 2013, 11:34:09 pm
In a republican paradise? Just stay here on Earth and hurry up with clogging your arteries, Please.
 ;)


 ::)
I would vote for an initial screening of participants for boarding the Exodus in the first place.
LOL


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 07, 2013, 10:15:29 am
No eating the animals on the new world! If we can do so much with technology, we can also create synthetic meat, like they did in that movie the Fly!

I think many in both science and animal rights groups would feel like you do about this Rachel. :)
TVP (Textured vegetable protein) is the closest thing we have to a by-product for meat that I am aware of at this point in time and it stores well.
Yet, it offers only vegetable proteins. If we were to make synthetic meats, the materials will have to be completely natural so that we aren't giving ourselves and our children potential toxins.
Maybe naturally occuring proteins found in different meats could be synthetically produced and designed to taste like beef or chicken?  :D

Your point is valid. Scores of different sciences would not support the destruction of alien plant and animals without being given the chance to further study the creatures of another planet. In the quest for human knowledge it is more productive to not eat what we haven't studied first. LOL

:x






Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 07, 2013, 10:26:00 am
 :) As for the people who would be selected to leave Earth, What type of person would be the best choice?
Hypothetically speaking, the average working man and woman who has struggled and knows the hardships of this way of life is the most productive choice.
They will be the most likely to succeed because they are the most adaptable. As history has shown, it is the most adaptable of creatures who have survived all along.
Smarter and stronger is not always more productive when it comes to evolution.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Amon Ra on September 08, 2013, 01:42:10 am
I think one would need to start with a few scientists, botanists and general laborers to get the ball rolling. We wouldn't need any military people, police or politicians, they can stay at home.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Ascendent Angel on September 08, 2013, 03:42:16 am
We need to build something different than we have here, not the emphasis on money, for one thing, which would mean no debt.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 08, 2013, 11:52:21 am
I think one would need to start with a few scientists, botanists and general laborers to get the ball rolling. We wouldn't need any military people, police or politicians, they can stay at home.
Agreed.  ;D


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 08, 2013, 11:52:44 am
We need to build something different than we have here, not the emphasis on money, for one thing, which would mean no debt.

 The Exodus....
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,2564.165.html

I have detailed thoughts posted all through this thread, however it's difficult to follow unless you are willing to put some time into reading through it.
So, to sum up the idea;
 we establish a complete sat/com system
 Launched a robotic mining system to mine asteroids for resources
 build a death star sized space station (The Exodus)
 And finally detect an Earth like planet and set sail.

I know a lot of people say NOPE it will never happen.
But, if anyone will spend the time to read in to what I've discovered about our current level of technology and how it is all put together.
I know it can be done. And just like you Ascendant Angel, I also know that the only way we can progress is to just put our best foot forward and do it because it should be done.



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 08, 2013, 12:19:04 pm
Our collective thoughts here, may in some way mold a future yet to come.
If we are ever going to grow beyond what we've become. We need to begin to work together.
There are NO borders, No ethic differences. We are human beings.

The only thing preventing us from moving forward are those individuals who would lose out if we all woke up and decided we aren't going to play this game any more.
Here is were we need some external help from those who aren't from here.  :)
And that will be happening sooner then most are prepared for.
Steven Greer, is the next to expose the banking system as the real enemy.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Vernon Guilley on September 08, 2013, 04:30:49 pm
I think one would need to start with a few scientists, botanists and general laborers to get the ball rolling. We wouldn't need any military people, police or politicians, they can stay at home.

No military?? What are you going to do if guys from Venus or Jupiter come to attack us, like Volitzer always says, whatcha going to fight them off with, harsh language?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 08, 2013, 05:50:26 pm
If the event we were attacked... We would be weaponized already...
We all agree though that a military is a bad Idea, because they are unable to think for themselves...
Slaves are like that.
 When fighting for something like the preservation of humanity against a more evasive species.
That is something I'm willing to do. When fighting for the profit of another human being so that they can live like kings?
NO! I just won't support it.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 09, 2013, 02:06:41 pm
 :) However, I sincerely believe that if we could change what we are in our emotional nature enough to accept life from another planet.
They would embrace us and show us how a more universal culture thrives.
Which is actually the point of this thread.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 10, 2013, 06:45:35 pm
Today is a good day to smile...  ;D


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on September 14, 2013, 04:34:24 pm
:) However, I sincerely believe that if we could change what we are in our emotional nature enough to accept life from another planet.
They would embrace us and show us how a more universal culture thrives.
Which is actually the point of this thread.

On the other hand, Harry, I have seen too many nasty alien movies to think they would all want to help us, Harry.  Remember that show V? They started off nice and were secretly nasty!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on September 14, 2013, 07:37:33 pm
:) However, I sincerely believe that if we could change what we are in our emotional nature enough to accept life from another planet.
They would embrace us and show us how a more universal culture thrives.
Which is actually the point of this thread.

On the other hand, Harry, I have seen too many nasty alien movies to think they would all want to help us, Harry.  Remember that show V? They started off nice and were secretly nasty!

Well?   :) As much as I dislike war... If something was going to attack, Defending ourselves is a part of colonizing a new world. Once we knew what their intentions were for sure.
I can't imagine that, it would be the popular choice to attack without probable cause or definitive evidence that they want us dead. However, if I went all those light years from Earth for a new and hopeful beginning just to be attacked by an alien civilization. I would fight to the death to defend the innocent men, women and children who colonized this world with me. Without killing any unarmed member of their race.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on October 26, 2013, 12:23:06 am
I think we should get back to philosophies, no marriages and lots of free love!  :D


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on October 26, 2013, 10:17:44 am
 :) FREE-love... Yes I'm in.

In addition I would also vote for NO WAR, No Killing, No abuse, or No ****.
Any found guilty would be Exiled off the planet and sent somewhere they would not like to be.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on October 26, 2013, 07:14:03 pm
We need to build something different than we have here, not the emphasis on money, for one thing, which would mean no debt.
   ;D

An Exodus class space station maybe?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on October 29, 2013, 02:56:57 pm
I think we should get back to philosophies, no marriages and lots of free love!  :D

What happens when the women get pregnant ?

They still honor marriages in Starfleet !!!    ;)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on October 29, 2013, 04:03:37 pm
Marriage? Hmmm Well I would imagine that people can be joined or consider a life partner. Sure. But I see less constraints involved to be happier as a race. I mean let's take marriages as they are. You commit solely to that one individual and suddenly you have 5 or 6 potential mates that you find way more interesting. Then what? :) And then think of the potential outcomes, no matter how cool or mean the other becomes or is for that matter. Just from a male perspective, I would not encourage marriage unless you find a soul-mate that is totally not interested in others and your not the least bit interested in others as well. Then? Go for it.
 :) If I wasn't already married, I personally would be like, No Way.... lol
Just keeping it real.
To answer pregnant, Parents are responsible for the care of children period....
I have 5 kids and I love them all so much I will a new world into existence every moment of everyday for them and all the children.
Even though I haven't been a model husband, I for sure, will always be there for my babies no matter what, where, and how it has to be.
If I ever brought another life into this world, I will be the same way for them as well.
No doubt in my mind on that. Society, I'm sure would agree with me on this.
;) I am a man who is nurturing and loving enough to do so....  As for the marriage part, No I don't hoe around. But yes, I always wonder what life with someone different would be like and I rarely see the same girl in my mind in these fleeting thoughts. And No, my hands are not on my ____ when this happen. lol Just being honest.



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on October 29, 2013, 04:59:57 pm
 :) pist..... Come and See.

http://youtu.be/bsbrQCqHRjE

Enchanting yes? (nods agreeably)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on November 01, 2013, 03:32:49 pm
Going into space you are not going to be free to do as you please.

There is a Federation of Planets already out there to keep the "Tattooine" type planets in check already.

So for those thinking that you'll have a nice slave or prostitution market on a new world think again.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 01, 2013, 05:39:07 pm
 :)   I just want to find a planet that is like Earth used to be before the industrial age. As for what philosophies we would use to establish a utopian existence, there is literally eons of preconditioning we would have to sift though. Besides, slaves are people who have to work. Contributors are those who work because they want to. I'm a slave here on Earth and this is why I'm looking for ways to contribute to something more productive.  ;)


Quote
"There is a Federation of Planets already out there to keep the "Tattooine" type planets in check already.
So for those thinking that you'll have a nice slave or prostitution market on a new world think again."

So why haven't they put this one in check yet? lol
This is as tattooinish as they come. Think about that for a moment.




Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 02, 2013, 09:54:48 am
Love thy neighbor as thy brother....



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 02, 2013, 10:14:59 am
As an experiment, I thought I could base some fundamental laws that could govern a new world.
Based on some of the ideas we've expressed so far. Each of us represent 10,000 people who now will be the first to colonize the planet Eden.

To vote; Simply type agree or disagree.

1. All Edenians will be asked to vote for ideas and not presidents.

2. No killing, No war.
3. No sexual harassment, and/or ****.
4. No Stealing or unlawful taking of personal properties claimed and owned by others.
5. We will not hurt any part of our planet and it's eco-systems. No polluting, or unauthorized harvesting of forestation.
6. Disputes and disagreements must NOT be handled with violence and should be made known to council members.
7. No killing of life form native to Eden. (except if it is self defense) Self Defense claims will be fully investigated.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 03, 2013, 10:23:11 am
I have something here for you all to watch, if you will.
I would hear a world leader say this today, and if he was sincere.
I would support him 100%......

It was made 70+ years ago and the situation that we see in this shot video is so on point with what we know today.
http://youtu.be/dX25PDBb708


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Volitzer on November 03, 2013, 02:38:41 pm
:)   I just want to find a planet that is like Earth used to be before the industrial age. As for what philosophies we would use to establish a utopian existence, there is literally eons of preconditioning we would have to sift though. Besides, slaves are people who have to work. Contributors are those who work because they want to. I'm a slave here on Earth and this is why I'm looking for ways to contribute to something more productive.  ;)


Quote
"There is a Federation of Planets already out there to keep the "Tattooine" type planets in check already.
So for those thinking that you'll have a nice slave or prostitution market on a new world think again."

So why haven't they put this one in check yet? lol
This is as tattooinish as they come. Think about that for a moment.

What do you think the thousands of UFO sightings are every year ?

You have a mainly Lyran (exo-human) Federation monitoring us.  They have  their outposts in the most inaccessible areas of the Earth so no Earth human can accidentally stumble upon them.  The High Altitude of the Andes Moutains, Shangrila in Asia, many underwater sea bases.

The have a Prime Directive of non-interference, however they also have a Prime Directive 2.0 in which they will interfere if kakistocratic governments threaten planet-wide survival... nuclear weapons, viral weapons, neutron bombs - where the structures stay intact but the radiation kills all surrounding organisms.

They will not have Earth ending up like Mars and Mercury... now uninhabitable due to past nuclear wars.

We would have to go to Venus or Saturn and learn all about Mars' and Mercury's pasts so if we do venture out into space we Earth people don't start up another Tattooine type planet that ends up like Mars and Mercury.





Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 03, 2013, 05:38:02 pm
 :) Lyrans approve of my thinking.... I have met them and we share philosophical ideas often.
In fact the Exodus is inspired by what I've witnessed in a telepathic conversation with an individual.

Volitzer, they want us to acknowledge what is wrong for ourselves and choose between programming and instinct.
This became the focas of this thread for me. However the threat to most human life at the moment that concerns me is;
Over population of this planet. This is one of the other reasons the exodus space station should be considered.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on November 04, 2013, 12:27:14 am
Who are the Lyrans and why are they monitoring us? Don't you think that any alien race would already be in cahoots with the government and deciding the course for humankind?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 04, 2013, 03:59:11 pm
The angels of Heaven, and the fallen angels. These are the zetas, and Lyrans... And several other species who are involved.... There is a war in Heaven and they are fighting for and against us.
Our government has a treaty but it's been violated and this war has raged since. If it wasn't for the Lyrans we would already be dead.
However, the powers that are in control of the world's resources, (within the power of their infinite wealth) are indeed the greatest threat to mankind at the moment.
 ::) As the story of all this goes anyways.

As for philosophies, the one thing I envision more then anything else is a type 1 civilization that doesn't exchange currency.
It works together for the good of all. Every act is a matter of either needs like clear fresh water, and whole foods to things like technology and science.
Every contribution to further human progress is what matters to the collective survival of our species.
Despite what the truth is about mankind's place at the moment, we have a free will.
With that said, why are we still continuing on the way we are?
We CAN do anything, and loving one another as brothers and sisters in it's truest sense is what it will eventually take to overcome our programming.

The word Slaves was mentioned. Ironic that we hardly notice that as we are living day to day that it isn't obvious that we are slaves to mere men who care about nothing but fortune and power.
Yet if we can free our mind from this prison and envision something, anything together. The chains of our bonds will break, and a new world will be created.
One that is not governed by fast talking devils with no souls. But a world filled with people who understand hardships and want better for themselves and each other.
That is what being a human means. It means to be created to love and create. Why would we wish to surrender this freedom a second longer to the filthy ways of the greedy, and weak-minded who care nothing for life? I am proud to be human because I can love, and because I see something greater then myself at work all around me. Philosophically, I am a slave who is free spirited and I am ready to choose freedom.
Help me reject their orders and let us decide the future we want for once in human history. If it's their world you want, fine. Do nothing.
However, consider this... You can share the responsibility for the destruction they thrive on. The wars. Deaths of innocent women and children. Global depletion of fertile Earth and so on.
 ??? For me, there is only one choice for becoming a better more responsible race.

We must starve the beast by doing all we can out of love and the sake of our survival. We have to do what must be done with no expectations like money, or the things they use for rewarding deeds.
Somehow, we need to organize a global labor strike. Don't spend any money. Don't go to work, and don't cash checks. Withdraw all your money and sit on it and don't give it to any businesses.
If you need food, pay a poor farmer. Water? We can use what we know about purification methods for drinking water. These won't answer all the questions some of you will ask. However, consider how long the human race has been here. Before money, PEOPLE survived. And now, if we can have those gifted individuals who will apply their genius for free... We can undo what has been done and do something else to reinvent the world as a better place that isn't ran by the choices of the few. It can be reinvented with the ideas of people like you and me.





Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on November 10, 2013, 04:41:16 pm
So how are the Lyrans and fallen angels the same thing, Harry? First time I heard that. Seems to me they are two separate species.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 13, 2013, 04:18:46 pm
Well according to Ancient Alien theorist.... Ancient man was having visits from other- worldly beings and could have easily mistaken their technology as being something more divine.
Hence, aliens were the angels and demons we have all been told about for thousands of years.....
Now, as an experiment substitute the word Angel for Alien when reading the bible. It will make you think differently about whats there.



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on November 17, 2013, 07:08:27 pm
Did you ever hear the story about the Watchers and the daughters of Cain? The angels mated with the earth women cause they thought they were hot and produced a whole race of giants! I don't know how we go from there to aliens with their sex experiments and their constant probing but we'll get there.  ;)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 18, 2013, 03:50:05 am
lol


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on November 18, 2013, 02:10:22 pm
Did you ever hear the story about the Watchers and the daughters of Cain? The angels mated with the earth women cause they thought they were hot and produced a whole race of giants! I don't know how we go from there to aliens with their sex experiments and their constant probing but we'll get there.  ;)

The term Anunnaki was translated as "those who came down from heaven".  Since archeologists figured there were no aircraft in antiquity they just assumed it was giants.

The tallest a human can get is 8 feet and in Earth's gravity that would cause all kinds of calves and foot problems with just weight issues.  Now the Nords are a race of Lyrans who get 8 feet tall but aboard a spacecraft you don't have Earth's gravity causing you leg problems.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 20, 2013, 03:20:19 pm
Sumerians called them the Anunnaki....
It's an interesting thing because from the Sumerians, were born the religion and the whole of middle eastern culture.
Including Egyptians.... India has tons of references to this story of the "Gods", descending down and interacting with humans. Even a war is depicted in Ancient India between the gods and man.
That takes place in the sky.

I mean literally every culture on the planet did several of the same things.
Made pyramids, found all over the planet as were discovering.
Beings were seen in the skies and were called Gods by man by every culture on the planet.
And so many other anomalies to even speak of are all right there....

Is there a war in heaven?
Yes, just like always and it will continue until........
The veil is lifted.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on November 21, 2013, 11:18:05 pm
Did you ever hear the story about the Watchers and the daughters of Cain? The angels mated with the earth women cause they thought they were hot and produced a whole race of giants! I don't know how we go from there to aliens with their sex experiments and their constant probing but we'll get there.  ;)

The term Anunnaki was translated as "those who came down from heaven".  Since archeologists figured there were no aircraft in antiquity they just assumed it was giants.

The tallest a human can get is 8 feet and in Earth's gravity that would cause all kinds of calves and foot problems with just weight issues.  Now the Nords are a race of Lyrans who get 8 feet tall but aboard a spacecraft you don't have Earth's gravity causing you leg problems.

Hmm, I seem to recall giants unearthed in the west of about thirteen feet tall, so I am not sure that your eight foot hypothesis is correct. They have a website someplace on giants that details all the 'giant' findings.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on November 23, 2013, 12:51:49 pm
Show me a link, they would have to have elephant calves and thighs then to support that amount of weight.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 23, 2013, 02:01:20 pm
Show me a link, they would have to have elephant calves and thighs then to support that amount of weight.

 :)
http://youtu.be/FC8wWsBKc88


Not sure how hoaxed the material is or isn't. Can never be sure of that.
However I see a huge difference in bone densities in the skeletal remains.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on November 23, 2013, 02:05:27 pm
http://www.bibleprobe.com/nephilim.htm



Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on November 24, 2013, 01:03:18 pm
Show me a link, they would have to have elephant calves and thighs then to support that amount of weight.

 :)
http://youtu.be/FC8wWsBKc88


Not sure how hoaxed the material is or isn't. Can never be sure of that.
However I see a huge difference in bone densities in the skeletal remains.

Lot of those photos look photoshopped.

If there were humanoids that were taler than 8 feet, 1) they weren't from Earth, 2) there was some kind of Nord genetics involved.  I am not saying it is impossible but with just the Anunnaki and human genome anything more than 8 feet the body mass collapses in on itself.

Maybe with Nord physiology there is an element in the bones that allows for it to support greater mass, like an iron bar could support more weight than a wooden one.

What we have to realize is that even in Anunnaki time there were thriving human civilizations in Andromeda, Lyrae, Orion, Pleadies, Sirius and other Star Systems.  Nords could have been part of some Lyran crews that did make it too Earth.

If we ever get out of our ignorance and meet our space neighbors, then once again this Federation will once again be open to Earth humanity.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on November 24, 2013, 07:35:21 pm
Here is the website I was talking about!  This guy has been documenting the existence of giants for years. You'll notice that most are well over eight feet!


http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=30

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
- Genesis 6:4

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Stretch your mind back to childhood. What giants do you remember? Jack and the Beanstalk? Hercules? Paul Bunyan? Goliath? What were you told and what did you read? With the exception of Goliath and an occasional ornery cyclops, legends emphasized their innate goodness, eye-popping feats accomplished with unparalleled strength, victories over the bad guys and all performed by "gentle giants". What if it were all a lie? What if the truth were something much MUCH more sinister?

I have invested over 30 years researching the vast history of giants. It has, for the most part, been kept from the public. Proof of giants' existence - their skeletal remains - has been quickly secreted away in obscure museums, when not destroyed. Additionally, time has cloaked and sugar-coated these creatures' true perverse nature, the majority too vile, too demonic for bedtime stories. However, history is replete with their tales of unimaginable cruelty, sexual perversity, cannibalism and pagan rituals. This is only the beginning. Some things are best forgotten. . . or are they?

Where did these giants come from and what was their connection with ordinary humans? Just who were they? What happened to these extraordinary creatures? Is it possible they could ever return? The last question I will answer right now - YES, they most definitely could return! And they have something much worse in mind for mankind.

(http://www.stevequayle.com/imgs/femur.jpg)

    Present day modern man which averages about 6-feet tall + or - several inches or more.
    15-foot human skeleton found in southeast Turkey in late 1950's in the Euphrates valley during road construction. Many tombs containing giants were uncovered here. This pertains to the picture of the giant human femur and myself above.
    Maximinus Thrax Ceaser of Rome 235-238 A.D. This was an 8' 6" skeleton.
    Goliath was about 9 feet + or - a few inches. I Samuel 17:4 late 11th century.
    King Og spoken of in Deuteronomy 3:11 whose iron bedstead was approximately 14-feet by 6-feet wide. King Og was at least 12-feet tall, yet some claim up to 18.
    A 19'6" human skeleton found in 1577 A.D. under an overturned oak tree in the Canton of Lucerne.
    23-foot tall skeleton found in 1456 A.D. beside a river in Valence, France.
    A 25' 6 " skeleton found in 1613 A.D. near the castle of Chaumont in France. This was claimed to be a nearly complete find.
    Almost beyond comprehension or believability was the find of the two separate 36-foot human remains uncovered by Carthaginians somewhere between 200-600 B.C.


* Please Note: The extensive and amazing information about "Giants" is online: www.genesis6giants.com


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on November 24, 2013, 07:36:16 pm
You see one pic also has an image of a massive thighbone!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on December 01, 2013, 10:10:38 am
 :)  However, they all died because of their philosophies as we're told....
So if we are to not go the way of these giants. What can we do differently then them?
lol


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on December 01, 2013, 01:49:04 pm
There must have been some ET genes floating around to produce these people.  In ancient astronaut theory is true then humans have been getting Lyran "upgrades" for millenia now.  Who knows if some Nord genes didn't come into play or if the Nords needed a pre-warp, class-M planet to vacation and party on, in between their stellar travels.

 ;)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Volitzer on December 04, 2013, 05:28:36 pm
I think one would need to start with a few scientists, botanists and general laborers to get the ball rolling. We wouldn't need any military people, police or politicians, they can stay at home.

No military?? What are you going to do if guys from Venus or Jupiter come to attack us, like Volitzer always says, whatcha going to fight them off with, harsh language?

If the Lyrans wanted to take us over they would have by now.

Earth is a pre-warp civilization still.

They do not want us in space until we do get more civilized.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Volitzer on December 04, 2013, 05:29:41 pm
No investment banking, in fact no banks!  We'd work on the barter system, a big field where vegetables are planted. Only natural drugs, herbs and weed allowed. People wouldn't be allowed to be rich, nor would they be allowed to be poor. No masters and no slaves. No workers and no employers.  All would work together for the common good, and when a child is born, the entire community would see it as its responsibility to raise it, not just the parents.

The had that in Russia it was called communism and the problem with that is that a mafia class always takes over and tries to run things.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on December 04, 2013, 07:55:46 pm
 :) Ok, so let's not take Italians and Russians?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Vanlyssel on December 07, 2013, 12:41:47 am
So what's wrong with Italians?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on December 07, 2013, 10:32:11 am
So what's wrong with Italians?

To many anger issues. :)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Martinex on December 11, 2013, 12:30:23 am
One thing I would do is afford other species the same human rights as we give ourselves. Things like hunting, fishing and slaughterhouses should be disallowed. Why are humans the only ones that can commit murders on this planet without consequences?   And one doesn't need meat to live anyway.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on December 11, 2013, 06:58:18 pm
One thing I would do is afford other species the same human rights as we give ourselves. Things like hunting, fishing and slaughterhouses should be disallowed. Why are humans the only ones that can commit murders on this planet without consequences?   And one doesn't need meat to live anyway.

Ending War would fulfill a part of your wish list....
As for eating meat? Dictating what people eat seems a little extreme.
If an animal is hungry enough it sure as heck would kill and eat you.
Philosophically speaking, meat is part of being human.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Wally Ashcroft on December 11, 2013, 11:07:37 pm
I sure as heck agree! Real men eat lots of meat, what kind of a liberal pantywaist are you, Martinex? I eat meat every meal I can, lots of red meat does a man good!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on December 23, 2013, 11:00:39 am
We elect the wrong kinds of people. The men and women who govern nations base there agendas on profits, power over resources, and control of how they feel people should live.
The result is war, famine, disease, and slavery....
No one can dispute this because it's a fact that this is happening.

Now, imagine for a moment that the world's wealthiest people and world leaders were all put into suspended animation.  ;D
   What kind of world could we recreate based on new ideas and philosophies?


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on December 23, 2013, 05:43:45 pm
Get naked and have some fun!  That always works. :)


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on December 26, 2013, 02:40:59 pm
 :D Yesh, Nakedish is a beautiful thing. lol
However very distracting and potentially dangerous...


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on January 13, 2014, 11:59:02 pm
Not to mention pretty dang cold in the winter time!  ???


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on January 14, 2014, 09:28:38 am
 ::) I live in Erie PA...
Winter is one of those things that are responsible for making me as adaptable as I am.
Not to mention, it keeps crime down. Criminals in these here parts wait til it's warmer to stake out their next gig.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rachel Dearth on February 26, 2014, 12:52:59 am
I'll bet its a pretty long wait, winter just won't go away this year!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Rebelitarian on February 26, 2014, 05:46:15 pm
Yeah winter drags ass in Feburary.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: HereForNow on March 09, 2014, 01:01:21 am
 :D Soon ladies. Soon. :) Spring will bring the warmth and hot sweaty nights again.


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Vernon Guilley on September 13, 2014, 11:27:30 pm
I'd keep you all's warm, if you were good Republican women, that is..!


Title: Re: Hypothetically..... What philosophies would govern a new planet?
Post by: Vernon Guilley on September 13, 2014, 11:48:27 pm
I'm thinking we need to install ourselves the old Confederacy constitution in this new planet of our, then we'll kick all the yankees that come there and have ourselves only good southern men and women.