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Title: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Dana Monsour on October 09, 2012, 10:36:49 pm
 Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture

The Huffington Post  |  By Kia Makarechi Posted: 10/09/2012 10:13 am EDT Updated: 10/09/2012 1:29 pm EDT

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Jay-Z is a huge Kurt Cobain fan.

Jay-Z is a big fan of Kurt Cobain, even if the late grunge rocker temporarily "stopped" Jay's genre from expanding.

In an excerpt from Pharrell Williams' new coffee table book, "Pharrell: People And Places I've Been," Hov says Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was so dominant that it actually eclipsed other emerging forms of music:

    "It was weird because hip-hop was becoming this force, then grunge music stopped it for one second, ya know? Those 'hair bands' were too easy for us to take out; when Kurt Cobain came with that statement it was like, 'We got to wait awhile.'"

Jay also traces the rise of grunge to the failure of those same hair bands to enthrall young music fans. "First we got to go back to before grunge and why grunge happened," he says. "'Hair bands' dominated the airwaves and rock became more about looks than about actual substance and what it stood for -- the rebellious spirit of youth ... That's why 'Teen Spirit' rang so loud because it was right on point with how everyone felt."

Given Jay's recent concert run at the Barclays Center, the home of the newly christened Brooklyn Nets (the team he's a minority owner of), Jay knows a thing or two about dominating culture. (Just yesterday, the rapper announced that his performances at Barclays will be released as an album.)

The two hip-hop greats were recently in the studio with R&B phenom Frank Ocean, according to Pharrell's Twitter:


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Dana Monsour on October 09, 2012, 10:38:46 pm
Too bad Cobain could not only have, "halted" hip hop, but rather completely killed the vulgar and tacky genre. i can't believe that some people actually enjoy listening to others speak about how rich, terrific, attractive, talented, rich, classy, amazing, tough, rich... (and on and on) they are. i can't stand listening to others brag about themselves. to me, it makes them utterly unlikable.

And making vulgarities rhyme is only a talent if you're in grade 3.


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Dana Monsour on October 09, 2012, 10:39:20 pm
Nirvana rocks and changed music as we know it. Still, hip hop is lame. I am so tired of watching the same rapper dance in front of an expensive car with 3 chicks with bling all over them throwing dollars in the air while pouring champagne on the ground.

Does hip hop only have one director who makes the same video for every rapper?


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Dana Monsour on October 09, 2012, 10:39:48 pm
Which crappy consumerist garbage will dominate the air waves next and how much will it sound like everything else the last 50 years? Stay tuned to find out!


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Dana Monsour on October 09, 2012, 10:41:42 pm
Nirvana
Alice in Chains
Soundgarden
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Stone Temple Pilots



Fact is. grunge had Intellectual substance, and for all it's huff and puff, hip hop takes the intellectual road of the lowest common denominator. If anyone can do it, then it is not art, and not everyone can play the sophisticated analog instruments, or write the meaningful lyrics, that were the hallmark of the grunge movement. Of course, grunge is gone, but thank god we've got Britney and Miley to provide the weight to modern sound.


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Dana Monsour on October 09, 2012, 10:44:21 pm
They should all hail from the Seattle area. Nirvana, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Temple of the Dog, Mother Love Bone, The Screaming Trees, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, The Melvins and, for a time, Hole. That's really about it.

Makes me miss Cobain even more...


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Volitzer on October 10, 2012, 01:32:50 pm
Yeah hip-hop and cultural degeneracy go hand in hand !!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Abomination, in the Eyes of God on October 10, 2012, 11:17:20 pm
It's all about guns, money and hos!


Title: Re: Jay-Z: Kurt Cobain 'Stopped Hip-Hop' As Nirvana Dominated Youth Culture
Post by: Volitzer on October 11, 2012, 11:38:31 am
It's a culture of death perpetrated on American kids,

At least the rock-n-roll culture was about rebellion, I mean granted their was drug use promotion but you never heard a hair-band ever advocate pimpin' ho's or thuggin' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!