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Title: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 14, 2011, 09:07:38 pm
Read it and weep:
(http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/14f8856ee0d48e0a1ff664b561c1f73f.jpg)

What a phony!


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Vernon Guilley on June 14, 2011, 10:39:10 pm
I don't get it.  Volitzer, you were born in Kenya, too?  Volitzer, are you black?


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Tom Hebert on June 15, 2011, 01:47:00 pm
He could be black.  We just don't know because he's an anonymous spammer.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 15, 2011, 05:29:24 pm
or I could be Venusian, Martian or any other undercover Lyran.   8)

I get Rush for a father and Alex Jones for a mother ??  WTF  ;D ;D ;D

You couldn't at least come up with a female.   ::)

Thanks to Obama now faking a BC is trendy.     :D

What a nation of morons we live in. 

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 16, 2011, 12:18:33 am
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I get Rush for a father and Alex Jones for a mother ??  WTF  Grin Grin Grin

You couldn't at least come up with a female.   Roll Eyes

I thought about making Ann Coulter your mom, but I didn't think that any  woman, even her, would have you.

You were probably hatched, like Limbaugh and Jones, cause you are a freak of nature.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 16, 2011, 12:19:33 am
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What a nation of morons we live in. 

Yeah, you and the Ron Paul supporters are sure proof of that, aren't you?


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 16, 2011, 07:10:34 pm
Who voted for an ineligible foreigner ?

Remind me !!!   ???

 ;)


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 19, 2011, 12:14:05 am
No one that I know of.  Of course I'm not living in bigot fantasyland where anyone elected to high office who's black just automatically has to be from Kenya.

By the way, you are from Kenya, too, so I don't know what you're whining about.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Klansman on June 19, 2011, 06:03:54 pm
Well you've sure convinced me, Volitzer, he's from Kenya!  I am pretty sure that Herman Cain is, too. Why are all these Kenyans running for Presdient?  Is it a Kenyan conspiracy to take over the United States? 


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 20, 2011, 12:56:57 pm
No it's a Bilderberg Conspuracy to take over the United States.

Endgame

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=Endgame+&ei=1t4QSPaoB5q2rAKJzaywBA

and yer buddy Rick Perry is right in the middle of it.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 21, 2011, 12:47:57 am
I think everyone who wants to has seen that film by now, Mr. Kenyan.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 22, 2011, 02:02:37 pm
That's great... then why the Globalist alethephobia here then ?


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 23, 2011, 05:40:54 pm
?There's a big difference between your propaganda and the truth.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 23, 2011, 06:31:49 pm
The truth that doesn't fit with the liberal-Democratic National Agenda which is controlled by Globalists in the backgorund.

This is the NWO's truth.

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26 Tenets of the New World Order:

1) Men are inclined to evil rather than good.

2) Preach Liberalism.

3) Use ideals of freedom to bring about class wars.

4) Any and all means necessary should be used to reach their goals as they are justified.

5) Believe their rights lie in force.

6) The power of their resources must remain invisible until the very moment that they have gained the strength so that no group or force can undermine it.

7) Advocates a mob psychology to obtain control of the masses

8 ) Promotes the use of alcohol, drugs, moral corruption, and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.

9) Seize citizens’ private property by any means necessary.

10) The use of slogans such as equity, liberty, and fraternity are used on the masses as psychological warfare.

11) War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences are designed so that neither combatant retain territory rights.

12) Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen to public office who would be obedient to their demands, and would be used as pawns in the game by the men behind the scenes. The advisors will have been bred, reared, and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.

13) Control the press, and hence most of the information the public receives.

14) Agents and provocateurs will come forward after creating traumatic situations, and appear to be the saviors of the masses, when they are actually interested in just the opposite, the reduction of the population.

15) Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food, use these events to control the masses and mobs, and use them to wipe out those who stand in the way.

16) Infiltrate Freemasonry which is to be used to conceal and further objectives.

17) Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases, advocate lavish sounding promises to the masses even though they can’t be kept.

18) The art of street fighting is necessary to bring the population into subjection.

19) Use agents as provocateurs and advisers behind the scenes, and after wars use secret diplomacy talks to gain control.

20) Establish huge monopolies towards world government control.

21) Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by controlling raw materials, organized agitation among the workers, and subsidizing competitors.

22) Build up armaments with police and soldiers who can protect and further the New World Order's interests.

23) Members and leaders of the one world government will be appointed by the director of the New World Order.

24) Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of teaching the youth in the schools theories and principles known to be false.

25) Create and use national and international laws to destroy civilization.
 
26) Use estrogens, c*ntragens and other drugs/chemicals to drive the female population insane thereby insuring the destruction of the family, hence more governmental dependency.

You gulliberals and the foreigners they import are a vital part of their American crushing agenda.  That's the truth.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Robert0326 on June 24, 2011, 06:39:37 am
And of course you have no real proof of any of this actually happening.  Just what Alex Jones tells you.  Do you have a memo or even a cocktail napkin with any of this none sense written down?  I bet if Jones told you that Santa Claus was recruited by terrorists to plant bombs in X-mas presents, you would believe him.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 24, 2011, 12:10:35 pm
It's not just Alex Jones it is people like Daniel Estulin, Ian Richardson, H. Paul Jeffers,  Heinz Duthel,  Robert Gaylon Ross and Jim Tucker who have documented Bilderberg meetings and NWO activity for years.

http://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Bilderberg-Group/dp/0979988624/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Bilderberg-People-Elite-Consensus-Affairs/dp/0415576350/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Bilderberg-Conspiracy-H-Paul-Jeffers/dp/0806531150/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Rockefeller-Council-Relations-Bilderberg-ebook/dp/B003K16NAC/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.com/Whos-Who-Elite-Bilderbergs-Trilateral/dp/0964988801/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308935152&sr=1-5

Alex Jones and Jason Bermas have been part of the brave few talk show hosts that actually bring their crytpocratic activities to light.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 25, 2011, 04:12:54 pm
You know, listen to yourself.  Who cares if there is an actual New World Order?  The bottom line is that the rich want to turn you all into wage slaves on par with the people on the lowest wage scale in the world, and you're too involved with the "conspiracy" in order to see it.  Turn your hate towards rich bastards like the Koch Brothers instead of the people Alex Jones wants you to hate. He is probably just another schill for the rich anyway.

IT'S US AGAINST THEM (Corporatists, Republicans and the RICH)


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on June 27, 2011, 01:07:39 pm
You know, listen to yourself.  Who cares if there is an actual New World Order?  The bottom line is that the rich want to turn you all into wage slaves on par with the people on the lowest wage scale in the world, and you're too involved with the "conspiracy" in order to see it.  Turn your hate towards rich bastards like the Koch Brothers instead of the people Alex Jones wants you to hate. He is probably just another schill for the rich anyway.

IT'S US AGAINST THEM (Corporatists, Republicans and the RICH)

I agree    :)  but you also need to add...  Limo-Liberals, Globalist-Democrats, Socialist-Democrats, Climate-changers, much like you have good cop bad cop, they are playing Corporatist politician, Socialist-Politiican and offer America nothing but a false choice.  Go ahead and vote for their opponent, both horses have the same owner.  As for US being the people of the United States I agree.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on June 30, 2011, 10:48:42 pm
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I agree but you also need to add...  Limo-Liberals, Globalist-Democrats, Socialist-Democrats, Climate-changers, much like you have good cop bad cop, they are playing Corporatist politician, Socialist-Politiican and offer America nothing but a false choice.  Go ahead and vote for their opponent, both horses have the same owner.  As for US being the people of the United States I agree.

This one totally contradicts itself.  You do know the definition of a liberal, right?  Mostly it's about helping people, whereas corporatists basically believe in helping themselves (mostly to your tax money).

Socialists, on the other hand, believe i government control of everything, which is at odd  with the big business capitalist agenda.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on July 01, 2011, 02:43:22 pm

This one totally contradicts itself.  You do know the definition of a liberal, right?  Mostly it's about helping people, whereas corporatists basically believe in helping themselves (mostly to your tax money).

Socialists, on the other hand, believe in government control of everything, which is at odd  with the big business capitalist agenda.


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lib·er·al   /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/  Show Spelled
[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]  
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. ( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.  

Both capitalism and socialism will collapse in on itself via its evil aspects.  Greed, wrath, pride & envy with capitalism and sloth and gluttony with socialism.  Neither system is perfect.  It is just a question of how much of each will you tolerate within an economy and how you balance it out.

Don't get me wrong, Progressivism/Liberalism has done a lot of good in this country.  People like Garret Morgan who invented the gas mask, hair straightener and the traffic light.  Stephanie Kwolek who invented KEVLAR, which would never have happened if Past Progressives weren't successful.

http://www.blackinventor.com/pages/garrett-morgan.html

http://www.women-inventors.com/Stephanie-Kwolek.asp

The trick is to reward innovation and grant opportunity while weeding out corruption.  Like when I tried to bring aerodynamics to a welfare-ridden county in NYS and got rejected for it.  Yet they had no qualms about the college money that came into the county yet they didn't want any REAL job creation.  This is what has to stop.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Big Ed on August 04, 2011, 12:38:54 am
Well, lookee here, looks like this Volitzer fella was actually born in Kenya, too. Those Ron Paul fellas are sue full of it, are't they?


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on August 04, 2011, 04:29:31 pm
Yeah okay I was born in Kenya.    ::) ::) ::)

The whole thing is just a computer manipulated document just as Obama's is.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Big Ed on August 04, 2011, 10:54:36 pm
How do we know it's a computer made document?  Looks pretty genuine to me. You probably feel a kinship for this Obama fella, seeing as how you were both born in Kenya.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 15, 2011, 02:17:25 pm
I post slews of Ron Paul posts but I am for Obama... Give it a rest already.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 20, 2011, 11:43:19 pm
That's just a smokescreen because you don't want people to know that you're a Kenyan, too!


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 21, 2011, 05:32:05 pm
Until Obama got into office many of you gulliberals and neo-cons probably couldn't even find Kenya on a map.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 22, 2011, 12:43:13 am
Neither probably could his mom since there is no proof that she ever went there.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 22, 2011, 03:59:52 pm
Some Stanley Ann Dunham passport file documents are finally released after over a year and a half of Mr. Strunk requesting and then suing to get the information released in the Strunk vs Dept of State FOIA case. This information should have been been released long ago per his initial FOIA request. But as with everything with Mr. Obama and his early life, the cover up is maintained as long as possible and then when the files are released things that should be there are missing. It required a federal lawsuit to even get them to release even these documents.

The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to a passport application in the early 60s would be to see the passport application filed in 1965. The application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing. How convenient that key pieces of information about Obama and his family's early life always turns up missing! This reminds me of the two missing pages in the Stanley Ann and Lolo Soetoro divorce file.

Why I believe the July 19, 1965 issued passport was issued pursuant to a RENEWAL application filed in 1965 and was not the first passport that Stanley Ann Dunham had. The issue date in July 19, 1965 is four months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965. If she had applied for her first passport in the late spring or early summer of 1965 she would have had to legally apply for it in her married name, Stanley Ann Soetoro. The July 19, 1965 issued passport was not in her married name since she had to AMEND it in 1967 and show her marriage license to get her married name put on her passport at that time. That is what the 1967 document states. And secondly, I believe it was a renewal application in 1965, because Obama's family in Kenya says Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama was there when Obama was born and government officials in Kenya state Obama was born there. Stanley Ann would have needed a passport in 1961 to get to Kenya and back to the USA. Since the 1965 passport was not in her 2nd marriage name when it was issued 4 months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro, it is obvious to me she simply renewed her previously issued circa early 1961 original passport which was in either her maiden name or in the name of her first marriage name of Stanley Ann Obama, if issued after Feb 1961 when she is said to have married Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

The copies of documents in what was released per the FOIA request are numbered but not in chronological order. This makes reading the file and the flow of events over time more difficult unless one prints out the file and rearranges the docs in chronological order, which I did.

There is a document numbered P3 which is an application for amendment of her existing passport. This amendment request was apparently done in 1967 (per a handwritten clerk's name and date note on it since the date is not filled in below Stanley Ann's signature on the form). This handwritten annotated note and date was apparently done by a clerk seeing a marriage license in order to process the request to amend a passport issued on July 19, 1965. But the copy of that 1965 passport application is not provided in this FOIA request. The passport officials say it could not be found. Why? That 1965 passport was issued several months after she married Lolo Soetoro. She filed the amendment apparently in 1967 allegedly to have it reflect her married name due to her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai Hawaii on March 15, 1965 per page marked P3 of the released documents. Thus the conveniently missing application records for this 1965 passport implies to me that that there was something indicated in it that the powers to be did not want the public to see, i.e., that she had a passport prior to 1965 and the 1965 records indicated it was a Renewal application. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear. The carefully worded cover letter with the FOIA release implies to me that earlier years records have been purged by someone at sometime for some reason since they could not find a record that should be there based on records they did find. Was the 1965 passport issued done per a renewal request for a prior issued passport? As to the implication in the cover letter that early year data may have been cleaned out due to some records retention cut off date. I don't buy that. Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever. That wording sounded to me like bureaucratic obfuscation. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying. In my opinion, there was probably a passport issued to Stanley Ann (whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. The 1965 passport application record pointed to that. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear.

Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro-Passport Application File-Strunk v Dept of State-FOIA Release-FINAL-7-29-10. This file indicates via the 1967 passport amendment application (document marked P3) that Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama had a passport for certain issued to her 1965 and she was applying to amend it. Thus she had one for sure in 1965. Since a passport was good for 5 years that means if the 1965 issued passport was a renewal that she likely got her first passport possibly as early as late 1960 or early 1961. How does that fit the narrative to explain the information coming out of Kenya that Obama was born there? Why did she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii or to go to college in Seattle Washington. What was the real reason this pregnant teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961? I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington. And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961. Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done [continued below video]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/breaking-stanley-ann-dunhamobamasoetoro.html


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 22, 2011, 04:07:29 pm
"grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961."

If anything this is why there are no records of any hospital issued Birth Certificate for Hawaii.  Cuz his American citizenship is based on fraud with his granny registering him.  This is why they had to later alter the BC of a dead baby and put Obama's info in for the phony BC.

This is why Gov. Abercrombie can't find the Hawaian BC.  Cuz there's none to be found.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 24, 2011, 06:47:47 pm
You mean you wish that because, like other conservatives, you are a racist bigot.

You keep citing these Jerome Corsi talking points like they are proven, when nobody but other bigots ever corroborate them. He's a propagandist, similar to Joseph Goebbels, mainly a guy who comes up with a lot of crap to appeal to people's prejudices.  Some people, like you, are easy marks.

Also, for people who have better things to do than to read your worldnet daily drivel, here is the only part they need to pay attention to:

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The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to a passport application in the early 60s would be to see the passport application filed in 1965. The application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing.

So, cutting through racist conservative speak:  missing might as well mean "non-existent." Meaning, they CAN'T find any application for a passport because his MOM NEVER APPLIED FOR ONE UNTIL AFTER OBAMA WAS BORN.

This would make sense to everyone but Volitzer, who, of course, is one of the many empty-headed bigots out there just waiting for another rich conservative to play on his natural prejudice.



Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 24, 2011, 06:59:19 pm
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What was the real reason this pregnant teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961? I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya.

So, no proof for any of this, or any passport or anything, or even an application to back it up and yet it's good enough for you to present here as "proof."  I don't know if you are just stupid or so eager to follow your bigoted tendencies that you have a lower standard of proof.

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Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done [continued below video]:

'Likely done?' You mean, how I could put together my own video of how this guy, you and Corsi are most likely butt monkeys and how that was likely done? Bigots apparently like to live in a fact free society!  They get a racist thought, then they pile loads of bs to try and support it.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 26, 2011, 03:47:49 pm
Right Obama fakes his Birth Certificate, it gets exposed, Gov Abercrombie can't find the real BC in Hawaii even tho everyone else born there can but those who expose this corruption are racists.

I suppose Birthers are in the same category as climate-change deniers or whoever else Michael Moore and the Democrats tell you hate this week.   ::)


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 26, 2011, 10:49:39 pm
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I suppose Birthers are in the same category as climate-change deniers or whoever else Michael Moore and the Democrats tell you hate this week. 


Pretty much.  They're all anti-science, pro-prejudice Republican types!


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 27, 2011, 02:14:20 pm
Wow you truly are brainwashed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :o :o :o


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 28, 2011, 12:37:25 am
I'm not the one that made your party a bunch of crazy, anti-science prejudicial yahoos, you guys chose that path on your own!


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 28, 2011, 04:28:56 pm
I'm not the one that made your party a bunch of crazy, anti-science prejudicial yahoos, you guys chose that path on your own!

My party is the Constitution Party.  Condemnation of Republican stupidity is your right under the 1st Amendment.  Many of times of which I am in total agreement with you.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on September 28, 2011, 11:56:02 pm
Not quite!  You think that the government should do nothing to fix the economy (the Paul philosophy), while I am all for them using whatever in their means to fix it. Also, you seem to have a thing against black people. And you don't like real science. And you believe in FEMA Camps and other tall tales.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on September 29, 2011, 04:08:52 pm
Not quite!  You think that the government should do nothing to fix the economy (the Paul philosophy),

Ron Paul and I are in total agreement about the government's responsibility in providing  sound money to a nation, as well as strict government regulation of banks.  This is what the END the FED movement is all about.

while I am all for them using whatever in their means to fix it.

As am I.


Also, you seem to have a thing against black people.

No I don't.  Cynthia McKinney was my 2nd choice for the Presidency.  She's black, a woman and a legal US citizen. 

And you don't like real science.

I am an aerodynamic engineer, who is working on overcoming the Van-Allen radiaiont belts. 

And you believe in FEMA Camps and other tall tales.

Try watching the Police State Quadology and see them for yourself, that is if you are capeable of doing something for yourself without taking marching orders from the DNC.

Police State 3:  Total Enslavement
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-448659287463550973
 
 
Police State 2:  The Takeover
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2758880303660529314#


Police State 2000

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1551348336255792191&ei=li3YSe2vEInUrQLMhunlAg&q=Police+state+2000


Police State 4:  The Rise of FEMA
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klqv9t1zVww



Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on October 01, 2011, 04:04:34 pm

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I am an aerodynamic engineer, who is working on overcoming the Van-Allen radiaiont belts.

They've already licked that problem. How do you think they got to the moon?
Or do you believe we didn't actually get there?


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Robert0326 on October 02, 2011, 10:48:30 am
If I remember correctly from past conversations he does not believe man has been to the moon.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Robert0326 on October 02, 2011, 11:04:31 am
I'm not the one that made your party a bunch of crazy, anti-science prejudicial yahoos, you guys chose that path on your own!

My party is the Constitution Party.  Condemnation of Republican stupidity is your right under the 1st Amendment.  Many of times of which I am in total agreement with you.
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I've read your parties platform and it seems to me that they are for some sort of theocratic government.  The belief that our country and the constitution was founded on biblical law is untrue.  If your parties intention is to turn our government into a theocracy then you and all that support them are now my enemies.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Krista Davenport on October 02, 2011, 03:02:14 pm
If I remember correctly from past conversations he does not believe man has been to the moon.

If that is so, then Volitzer probably doesn't have a degree in science and is just talking pseudoscience. The Van-Allen radiaiont belts, well, that's the main theory why the Moon landing wackos don't think we got to the moon.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on October 04, 2011, 01:36:04 pm

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I am an aerodynamic engineer, who is working on overcoming the Van-Allen radiaiont belts.

They've already licked that problem. How do you think they got to the moon?
Or do you believe we didn't actually get there?

You can't magnetize aluminum, and besides there are films on youtube where Nixon admits to staging the "moon-landing" in British caves with a British Movie Production Crew.


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on October 04, 2011, 01:48:39 pm

I've read your parties platform and it seems to me that they are for some sort of theocratic government.  The belief that our country and the constitution was founded on biblical law is untrue.  If your parties intention is to turn our government into a theocracy then you and all that support them are now my enemies.

  The Constitution Party is not and never will advocate for a theocracy.  I would refer you to the definition of jurisprudence.

ju·ris·pru·dence   /ˌdʒʊərɪsˈprudns, ˈdʒʊərɪsˌprud-/  Show Spelled[joor-is-prood-ns, joor-is-prood-]  Show IPA
noun
1. the science or philosophy of law.
2. a body or system of laws.
3. a department of law: medical jurisprudence.
4. Civil Law . decisions of courts, especially of reviewing tribunals.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jurisprudence

The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence  to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.

Much of the laws we have on the books today are based on the 10 Commandments.  That's Biblical juris-prudence in a republic.  Hardly a theocracy. 


Title: Re: Volitzer's Birth Certificate
Post by: Volitzer on October 04, 2011, 01:51:55 pm
If I remember correctly from past conversations he does not believe man has been to the moon.

If that is so, then Volitzer probably doesn't have a degree in science and is just talking pseudoscience. The Van-Allen radiaiont belts, well, that's the main theory why the Moon landing wackos don't think we got to the moon.

Only 1 man I know who got to the moon and he didn't get there by any Earthly means.

That and all he needed was 24 hours of decompression before stepping out onto the lunar atmosphere.  Not a silly space suit on wires.