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Title: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:27:10 pm
CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
IG Report Describes Tactics Against Alleged Cole Mastermind
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/22/AR2009082200045.html?wpisrc=newsletter

By Joby Warrick and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, August 22, 2009

CIA interrogators used a handgun and an electric drill to try to frighten a captured al-Qaeda commander into giving up information, according to a long-concealed agency report due to be made public next week, former and current U.S. officials who have read the document said Friday.

The tactics -- which one official described Friday as a threatened execution -- were used on Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, according to the CIA's inspector general's report on the agency's interrogation program. Nashiri, who was captured in November 2002 and held for four years in one of the CIA's "black site" prisons, ultimately became one of three al-Qaeda chieftains subjected to a form of simulated drowning known as waterboarding.

The report also says that a mock execution was staged in a room next to one terrorism suspect, according to Newsweek magazine, citing two sources for its information. The magazine was the first to publish details from the report, which it did on its Web site late Friday.

A federal judge in New York has ordered a redacted version of the classified IG report to be publicly released Monday, in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union. Since June, lawyers for the Justice Department and the CIA have been scrutinizing the document to determine how much of it can be made public. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has been weighing the report's findings as part of a broader probe into the CIA's use of harsh interrogation methods.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:27:46 pm
The IG's report, written in 2004, offers new details about Nashiri's interrogation, including the incidents in which the detainee reportedly was threatened with death or grave injury if he refused to cooperate, one current and one former U.S. official told The Post. Both officials have seen classified versions of the report.

In one instance, an interrogator showed Nashiri a gun and sought to frighten the detainee into thinking he would be shot, the sources said. In a separate encounter, a power drill was held near Nashiri's body and repeatedly turned on and off, said the officials, who spoke about the report on the condition of anonymity because it remains classified.

The federal torture statute prohibits a U.S. national from threatening anyone in his or her custody with imminent death.

Three months before Nashiri's capture, the head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel -- Jay S. Bybee, now a federal judge -- advised the CIA in an August 2002 memo that threats of "imminent death" were not illegal unless they deliberately produced prolonged mental harm. Independent legal experts have called that interpretation too hedged and thus too lax.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:28:22 pm
The CIA declined late Friday to comment on the contents of the report, but an agency spokesman noted that all the incidents described in the document have been reviewed in detail by government prosecutors.

"The CIA in no way endorsed behavior -- no matter how infrequent -- that went beyond formal guidance," said the spokesman, Paul Gimigliano. "This has all been looked at; professionals in the Department of Justice decided if and when to pursue prosecution. That's how the system was supposed to work, and that's how it did work."

Nashiri, who remains in U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, was the alleged mastermind of the 1999 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 American sailors and nearly sank the vessel. Before his capture by CIA officers, he allegedly headed al-Qaeda's operations in the Persian Gulf, and he was the most senior member of the terrorist organization in U.S. custody at the time of his arrest.

The IG's report is the most comprehensive, contemporaneous review of the secret CIA interrogation program, which ran from early 2002 until September 2006. Controversial within the spy agency, it criticized the CIA's use of coercive interrogation methods, warning that several likely violated international bans on cruel and inhumane treatment.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:29:10 pm
A third former U.S. official who has read the full, classified report said that it contained an entire section listing ways in which the CIA and contracted interrogators had "gone beyond what they were authorized to do -- a whole variety of deviations." The official said that what struck him most strongly was that the report suggested these techniques were "really not effective."

He said he concluded that "there has to be a better way to do this" but that the CIA resisted suggestions then that it should back away from the program. Asked why, the official said he could not say for sure, but he added that "maybe it was that if you change, then it means you were wrong" in pursuing the harsh interrogation methods in the first place.

A former senior agency official, intimately familiar with the program and the report, said that individual interrogators who strayed outside the agency's guidelines were promptly disciplined, and that, in some instances, their cases were referred to Justice Department prosecutors.

"Any infractions of the rules were met with anger at CIA because we realized this was a program that had to stay meticulously within the guidelines," the official said. He noted that after the IG's report was completed in 2004, the document was reviewed by administration and congressional officials, who allowed the program to continue despite its flaws.

"A reaffirmation of both administration policy and [Justice] legal authorization was sought and eventually received," the official said.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:29:56 pm
CIA 'threatened' terror suspects
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8215722.stm

Page last updated at 10:16 GMT, Saturday, 22 August 2009 11:16 UK

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Mr Obama has banned the use of the controversial interrogation techniques

Handguns, electric drills and mock executions were used by CIA agents to elicit information from terror suspects, US media have reported.

The reports contain details of a 2004 review by the CIA's inspector general that has been kept secret but is now due to be released next week.

Publication of the CIA report was ordered after a legal challenge by the American Civil Liberties Union.

The US has banned harsh interrogation methods, including death threats.

The gun and the drill were brought into an interrogation session of suspected USS Cole bomber and alleged al-Qaeda commander Rahim al-Nashiri, according to reports in the Washington Post, Newsweek magazine and AP news agency.

The CIA report says the drill was held near Saudi-born Mr Nashiri's head and repeatedly turned on and off, the reports said. The agents showed him the gun and tried to frighten him into thinking he would be shot.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:30:27 pm
In another case, a gun was fired in another room to lead a detainee to believe another suspect had been killed.

CIA documents already released under ACLU pressure indicate that Mr Nashiri is one of several Guantanamo Bay detainees who were subjected to waterboarding - a practice that simulates drowning.

Waterboarding was one of a number of "enhanced" interrogation techniques approved by the Justice Department in 2002 under President George W Bush.

President Barack Obama has since said waterboarding constitutes torture. US law on torture forbids threatening detainees with imminent death.

US Attorney General Eric Holder is considering whether to investigate the Bush administration's interrogation practices.

A retired CIA official who lead the 2004 investigation said the report about to be released is a comprehensive review of what the CIA did under the secret detention and interrogation programme began after the 11 September 2001 attacks, AP said.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:31:00 pm
CIA threatened prisoner with power drill, conducted mock executions
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/21/205226/217

by andrewj54
   
Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 06:10:18 PM PDT

Look what turned up in this week's Friday evening news dump.

Newsweek is reporting that a long-suppressed report by the CIA Inspector General recounts that interrogators went far beyond what was sanctioned by the discredited torture memos:

According to two sources—one who has read a draft of the paper and one who was briefed on it—the report describes how one detainee, suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, was threatened with a gun and a power drill during the course of CIA interrogation. According to the sources, who like others quoted in this article asked not to be named while discussing sensitive information, Nashiri's interrogators brandished the gun in an effort to convince him that he was going to be shot. Interrogators also turned on a power drill and held it near him.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:31:19 pm
There were also...

...mock executions:

According to the sources, the report also says that a mock execution was staged in a room next to a detainee, during which a gunshot was fired in an effort to make the suspect believe that another prisoner had been killed. The inspector general's report alludes to more than one mock execution.

Although the report chronicling all of this was completed in May 2004, and it was sent to the Justice Department and Congressional leadership shortly thereafter, it was not shown to some members of the Intelligence committees until much later:

The inspector general's report, commissioned by then CIA-director George Tenet, was sent to the Justice Department and congressional intelligence committee leaders shortly after it was written. But it was not shown to all members of the intelligence committees until September 2006, around the time that President Bush publicly acknowledged the CIA detention and interrogation program and instructed the agency, which had been holding detainees in a network of secret overseas prisons, to transfer them to the U.S. military detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

CIA officials lobbied against it being released to the public, peddling the usual jive:


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:31:37 pm
Top Bush CIA officials, including Tenet's successors as CIA director, Porter Goss and Gen. Michael Hayden, strongly lobbied for the IG report to be kept secret from the public. They argued that its release would damage America's reputation around the world, could damage CIA morale, and would tip off terrorists regarding American interrogation tactics. "Justice has had the complete document since 2004, and their career prosecutors have reviewed it carefully for legal accountability," said CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano. "That's already been done."

This is all repugnant.  I really hope it helps that Eric Holder throws the book at these sickoes, and that it helps with the push for accountability higher up.  This crap didn't happen in a vacuum. What has happened to America?

UPDATE:  from Terre in the comments:

You might mention that this was breaking news at the top of the hour on Rachel's show.  She interviewed Michael Isikoff who wrote the story in Newsweek.

He mentions sources saying that this report is EXPLOSIVE, and that Eric Holder will more than likely appoint a Special Prosecuter, and that would probably happen after the report has been released.

UPDATEx2:  Connecting some dots: I remember reading a week or so ago that AG Holder was "poised" to appoint a Special Prosecutor, but the scope of the investigation would be narrow, and confined to those instances where interrogators went beyond the "guidelines" in the torture memos.  Seems like he was gearing up for this particular ****-fan collision.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:32:12 pm
Did Iraqi forces learn electric drill torture from Bush training officials?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=206791


If these gruesome allegations are true, how did enhanced techniques like "drilling torture" got in the hands of US/UK trained Iraqi security forces?

Quote:According to those sources, the report will reveal that the CIA interrogators of suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri brandished a gun in front of him in an attempt to make him believe he was going to be shot — thus violating a federal law against threatening a detainee with “imminent death” — and also threatened him with a power drill.

Quote:'Drilling torture'

This particular technique of torture and killing is a new one to add to an already long list of other forms of torture of which the new Iraqi police force stands accused.

The return to torture and killing by the security forces is another embarrassment for the American and British governments


The list compiled by Human Rights Watch includes beating detainees with cables, hanging them from their wrists for long periods and giving electric shocks to sensitive parts of the body.

From a video given to the BBC by the Association of Muslim Scholars (a Sunni Muslim organisation), it seems another particularly brutal form of torture can also be added - drilling into the knees, elbows and shoulders of victims.

The video shows the body of a Sunni Muslim preacher being washed for burial.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:32:29 pm
His supporters say he had been picked up by police commandos for allegedly being linked to the insurgency.

The camera focuses on marks all over his body including what appear to be drill holes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4718999.stm


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:33:24 pm
Lt. William Calley Haunted by Memories of My Lai Massacre
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2092877/lt_william_calley_haunted_by_memories.html

August 22, 2009

The My Lai Massacre occurred a little over two years before I went to Vietnam. The Mai Lai Massacre effectively turned public opinion against the Vietnam War. Further, the Mai Lai Massacre brought to the fore an officer named Lt. William Calley.

Telegraph.co.uk is carrying an article titled "My Lai massacre: Lt. William Calley apologises more than 40 years after Vietnam." The title is just a little misleading. The apology comes forty years after the massacre, not the end of the war.

The event in question occurred March 16th, 1968. Lt Calley was in charge of "Charlie Company." They came to a village called My Lai and opened fire killing somewhere between 347 and 504 unarmed citizens. The people were primarily old men, women and children.

It was recommended that 28 officers and two non-commissioned officers be charged with a crime however, Calley was the only soldier charged and was given a life sentence.

This sentence was changed to house arrest.

The My Lai massacre is back in the news because Lt. William Calley apologized for his role in the massacre.

While addressing the Kiwanis Club in Greater Columbus, Georia, Calley is quoted in the article as saying "There is not a day that goes by that I do not feel remorse for happened that day in My Lai."

There is no question that the My Lai was a uniquely terrible event.

However, did you ever wonder why Lt. Calley's punishment for this "search and destroy mission gone wrong" was so greatly reduced?


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:34:23 pm
There are two reasons.

Charlie Company had received erroneous data prior to entering the village and had been told that the Viet Cong had gotten through to the people and those people left were in league with the North. Those unfamiliar with Vietnam War may consider that silly but often people of these ages old and young participated in deadly acts.

It seems to always be overlooked that the day before this occurred Charlie Company got caught in a mine field. Every time a soldier moved they would be blown to bits.

These same soldiers were in shock when they entered the village of My Lai.

Of course it is nice of Calley to apologize. Although, it is my opinion it is for his benefit.

The My Lai Massacre was a terrible marker of the questionable Vietnam War.

However, while Calley's apology is a gentile act, it in no way lessens the historic effect of the massacre and neither does it allow for the explanation of what really happened.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:35:17 pm
Tortures
http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqtortures.html


“George W. Bush said the other day that the world should see his administration’s handling of the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison as a model of transparency and accountability. He said those responsible were being systematically punished, regardless of rank. It made for a nice Oval Office photo-op on a Friday morning. Unfortunately, none of it is true.”
~ New York Times (born: 1851 age: 158) , 2005-05-23

“Torture is wrong, even when Americans do it.”
~ God , 2007-10-01

It is natural to want to disbelieve accounts of torture. It is sickening to discover the depths of cruelty your fellow man can sink to. Watch yourself playing the denial game as you read on. If you are like most people, you will find the least offensive torture, or the least solidly documented and seize on it, then discount it, and then try to convince yourself all the horror has gone away. All you have done is sweep it under the carpet. You can’t stop the torture if you lie to yourself that it does not exist. It is real. There are even criminal convictions.

Diplomat Ann Wright argues the tortures concocted showed a deep understanding of Arab and Muslim culture. There is no way ordinary American soldiers came up with these on their own. They must have been taught them by their superiors who had access to experts.

Bush sent a directive in 2002-02 that the resistance in Afghanistan were to be treated as terrorists, unprotected by the Geneva conventions. This left the fighters and POWs open to any conceivable torture.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:35:32 pm
Navy Seal Dan Cerrillo, testified the CIA ordered the Seals to torture prisoners.

Sign at Guantánamo torture camp mockingly reads HONOR BOUND TO DEFEND FREEDOM, reminiscent of Hitler’s Arbeit Macht Frei he had painted over the gates to the Jewish concentration camps.

At Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib here is a partial list of the sexual abuse and torture:

Doctors tortured prisoners. 35 pages of government documents.

A US military investigation found Iraqi detainees were held with their Taping eyes shut in tiny box-like cells for up to seven days at a time while loud music blared at a special operations holding facility.

Government documents on torture obtained unde the freedom of information act by the ACLU.

The Washington Post reported that the CIA is hiding, interrogating and torturing captives in Thailand, Afghanistan and several countries in Eastern Europe. CIA interrogators in the overseas sites are permitted to use the CIA’s approved “Enhanced Interrogation Techniques”; (aka torture) some of which are prohibited by the U.N. convention and by U.S. military law. The black-site program was approved by a small circle of White House and Justice Department lawyers and officials. There are four main arguments against using torture.

It is morally abhorrent. It is condemned by every major religion.

It has no benefits. Under torture, you will say whatever you think the tormenter wants to hear to get them to stop. The information gleaned is worthless. Bush tortured Iraqis to get his phony evidence for war. A terrorist locked away in seclusion is out of the loop. All plans have been changed and the detainee is not up to date. Ask John McCain what he thinks of torture. He knows first hand how ineffective it is.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:35:49 pm
Standard Operating Procedure . Errol Morris’s full-length documentary on the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib

Using torture lowers the bar. Your opponents then are obligated to use torture too, not only on P.O.W.s but on civilians and children, just as America has done.
Using torture alienates your allies.

Last revised/verified: 2005-11-08

Italian TV broadcast a documentary. It is about the American atrocities and torture in Iraq. One of the most stomach-wrenching scenes is detainees who have been tortured by boring holes with an electric drill, burning, and cutting open and resuturing like turkey. You can play a low-res version of the movie online . You can download the movie with BitTorrent in either Microsoft  or Apple QuickTime format  The movie deserves to be shown in IMAX, so please try for the hi-res version. Last revised/verified: 2005-11-10

****, vaginal and anal of men, women and children.

Killing wounded prisoners.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:36:02 pm
Murder
Kicking prisoners to death

Sodomy with a broomstick and chemical light.

water-boarding, where a suspect is strapped to a board, turned upside down, and immersed in a wet towel to simulate the feeling of drowning until he loses consciousness.

Throwing off bridge into river and drowning

near suffocation

Parent forced to watch son being tortured.

oy 12 imprisoned. The Red Cross counted 107 juveniles in six American prisons in Iraq.

Government documents show soldiers were ordered to “beat the f**k out of” prisoners.

Chaining to the ceilings of cells for days at a time.

common peroneal strike, aimed at a point just below the knee and intended to disable. Basically pulpifying the legs so they look as though they had though they had been run over by a bus.

starvation


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:36:23 pm
sleep and sensory deprivation: Covering the eyes, ears, wrapping the body in bubble wrap. After a few hours of this, hallucinations set in then eventually permanent insanity.

claustrophobic technique: stuffing POWs into a sleeping bag and winding them with an electrical cord.

Water pit in which detainees have to stand on tip-toe to keep from drowning.

breaking a teen’s jaw, then wiring it shut.

Pulling out fingers and teeth. See Page 49 of Chain of Command.

heat and light manipulation

“stress positions”, e.g. hands tied behind back hanging in the air by the wrists.

Severe beatings to the point of death.

Electric shock

Attaching electrodes to private parts. This causes sterility.

Using trained vicious dogs to anally and vaginally **** prisoners.

Severe burning

Setting vicious dogs on children.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:36:50 pm
Raping young Iraqi boys on video. 14 year old being raped. source. Pulitzer prize winner and breaker of Mai Lai, Seymour Hersch has seen one of the videos. The most horrifying part is the Americans raping a little boy in front of his parents as the little boy screamed. The irony is, this is the very tactic, in the very same torture chamber, that Saddam himself used. Judge Hellerstein is forcing Bush to release the **** videos. Bush is refusing to comply. Last revised/verified: 2005-11-21
A 26 year old man, Arkan Muhammad Ali, was stabbed, shocked with an electrical device, urinated on and kept locked — hooded and naked — in a wooden, coffin-like box.

Exposure to fire and smoke.

Pulling out fingernails

Pushing lit cigarettes into ears

Chaining hand and foot in fetal position without food or water.

Forced standing on one leg in the sun

trampling underfoot

Gagging with duct tape

Tormenting with loud music and strobe lights

beating with cables

Prolonged sleep deprivation

punching and kicking detainees

jumping on the naked feet of detainees

covering prisoners in human feces

Hooding

Subjecting to freezing/sweltering temperatures


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:37:11 pm
'Dietary manipulation'. Forcing to eat pork and alcohol forbidden to Muslims. Forcing to eat disgusting things. Forced to eat the contents of a toilet. Forced to drink from a toilet bowl.

Forced to separate feces and urine using bare hands.

Women forced to stir pots of feces and urine mixed with lighter fluid.

Shabah, in which a prisoner is locked in tight handcuffs and leg irons and forced to sit in a contorted position with a stinking sack over the head and loud music playing nonstop.

Hanging by arms from hooks, Palestinian Hanging.

Permitting serious dog bites

Bending back fingers

Taping naked prisoner to board so that cannot move and leaving them there for weeks until they go insane.

Intense isolation for more than 3 months

Slamming the head into a wall until it bleeds.

Stacking of naked prisoners  in pyramids.

Injecting with drugs

Leaving bullet in body of wounded prisoner.

Beating prisoners to death

Locking prisoners naked in the dark for days at a time.

Shooting into containers with men inside.

Keeping prisoners in small, outdoor cages.

Pepper spraying in face

Forced public defecation by using dogs to terrorise.

Repeated, prolonged rectal exams


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:37:30 pm
inserting suppositories in the anus, diapering, cutting the clothes off with scissors. page 54 of Chain Of Command.

Forced public ****

Grabbing genitals

Forcing heads into toilets and flushing

Riding a 70 year old woman like a donkey.

forced breast baring at gunpoint.

Threatening live burial, drowning, electrocution, **** and death

Telling a Guantánamo prisoner the Americans had murdered his family then presented him photos with animal heads superimposed on their bodies.
mock executions. Two US soldiers were convicted of mock executions. The names were not released.

Menstrual Blood. To break the prisoner’s reliance on God, a female interrogator would tell the detainee that she was menstruating, touch him, then make sure to turn off the water in his cell so he couldn’t wash. Strict interpretation of Islamic law forbids physical contact with women other than a man’s wife or family, and with any menstruating women, who are considered unclean. At Guantánamo, a prostitute menstruated on a man strapped the floor.

Psychological tortures

handcuffs tight enough to cut the skin

“inappropriate behaviour” with a corpse.

sexual touching


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:37:47 pm
Confining in outdoor cages without protection from the sun.

Forced exercising to the point of heart attack.

Forcing detainees to perform exercises such as deep knee bends for hours on end, to the point of exhaustion.

Blowing cigarette smoke into the sandbags the prisoners were forced to wear as hoods.

Throwing cold water on the prisoners in a room that was between 40 degrees and 50 degrees Fahrhenheit.

Blasting the detainees with heavy-metal music, yelling at them and banging on doors and ammunition cans.

hair pulling

Making child prisoners bark like dogs before being given candy as food.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:38:05 pm
Flushing the Qur’an (the sacred text of the Muslims) down the toilet. Leaving it out as the only toilet paper. This is equivalent to making Americans **** on or burn the flag. Oddly, this more than any other humiliation or torture, has the Muslims of the world up in arms. 100 people were hurt in protests in Iran. Clerics have even threatened jihad over it. There are also reports of standing on the Qur’an, throwing or kicking it in toilets, and urinating on it. There have been many reports of the Qur’an being stepped on, tossed on the floor and placed in latrines. The LA Times confirmed dozens of such reports not only at Guantánamo, but also at American-run detention facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq. Britons too corroborate the story. The Pentagon lied when they said they had received no reports of Qur’an desecration. The Red Cross informed them as early as 2002. FBI documents confirm widespread Qur’an desecration. Brigadier General Jay W Hood acknowledged incidents of Qur’an abuse. On 2005-06-03, the Pentagon described five confirmed incidents of Qur’an mistreatment at Guantanamo Bay, in which the Muslim holy book was kicked, stepped on, soaked by water balloons, defaced with a scrawled obscenity, and sprayed with urine. Ironically many of those on the newsgroups asserting that it was a preposterous lie than Americans had desecrated the Qur’an had previously posted their own Qur’an desecrating fantasies, and acknowledged atrocities and tortures far worse in American eyes than that. Others asserted flushing a Qur’an down a toilet was impossible ignoring that some Qur’ans you can buy on the net are only 3x4" and that it is quite possible to tear out and flush pages of even the largest Qur’an.

“The Koran needs to be flushed.”
~ Sign on Danieltown Baptist Church in Forest City Alabama

snakes

Major General Antonio M. Taguba wrote a report on the abuses at Abu Ghraib between 2003-10 and 2003-12. Here is a section of it: “Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees, pouring cold water on naked detainees, beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair, threatening male detainees with ****, allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick, and using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee.”

the abuses listed here are just the tip of the iceberg.

These abuse may sound too outrageous to believe. Have a look at the routine use of torture and abuse in domestic prisons in the USA.
Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib were not the work of isolated deviants. All this torture was exquisitely planned ahead of time by the Bush administration. Bush and Rumsfeld spent far more time plotting the torture than they did the invasion. Think about that. Torture is something you do as a last resort. These guys relished it, slavering over it for months like kids eager for Christmas.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:38:18 pm
Nearly all the links above discuss more than one form of torture. Read the lot to get the big picture of what is going on. Here is a list of resources to find out more.

Guilty of Torture

“I think about over 20% of the people thus far that have been held to account as a result of the Abu Ghraib issue have been officers. I’m comfortable that we’re getting to the bottom of the situation. And I know we’re doing so in a transparent way.”
~ George W. Bush (born: 1946-07-06 age: 63) , commenting on the fact finding of probable cause to charge 27 officers and enlisted soldiers with offences ranging from dereliction of duty to maiming and involuntary manslaughter in the Dilawar torture case and charges recommended against 15 of them for the Habibullah torture case.

After much denial, Bush finally regretted the torture at Abu Ghraib, or more specifically regretted the scandal on 2006-05-25.

Charged with torture at Abu Ghraib are Lynndie England and Charles Graner. Like many other US soldiers, Graner is a psychopath who used to send pictures of his bloodied torture victims home to his children. Lynndie England pleaded guilty at her trial on 2005-05-04, but the military judge threw out the guilty plea saying she “did not know what she was doing”. On 2008-09-25 she was sentenced to 3 years in jail. She could have got up to 11 years. Her married boyfriend, Charles Graner was sentenced to 10 in prison  Like a Nazi, Grainer whined that he was “just following orders” and blamed everyone but himself.

Some of the torturers include Brits have been charged too including Corporal Daniel Kenyon , 33, and Lance Corporals Mark Cooley , 25, and Lance Corporal Darren Larkin , 30. Daniel Kenyon was sentenced to 18 months, Mark Cooley to 2 years, and Daniel Larkin to 5 months. Ivan “Chip” Frederick was convicted of taking sadistic photos.

Javal S. Davis : : has been charged with conspiracy to maltreat detainees, dereliction of duty for failing to protect detainees from abuse, maltreatment of detainees, rendering false official statements and assault.

Sabrina Harman was convicted on 2005-05-16 of 6 of 7 counts of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. She was the photographer of some of the most famous Abu Ghraib abuse pictures.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:38:34 pm
The CBC prepared a timeline. Remember the faces. Make sure if you ever run into these sadists after they get out of prison to make their lives highly inconvenient.

The surprise is, they look like ordinary nice people. The men who ordered them to do the atrocities got medals. The ACLU is suing Donald Rumsfeld for his part is ordering the Abu Ghraib tortures : details. It seems every week they subpoena another government document confessing more torture. The US Navy was so horrified at the interrogation techniques and Guantánamo, they considered refusing to have anything to do with the camp.

The 2003-09-14 memo by Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez clearly establishes that Gen. Sanchez authorized unlawful interrogation techniques for use in Iraq, and in particular these techniques violate the Geneva Conventions and the Army’s own field manual governing interrogations. This puts a lie to Bush’s claim the tortures were the results of a few renegades. In a **** case, normally you interview both the accused and the victims. Americans seem to think the Iraqis have no right to be heard.

The **** of Abu Ghraib, Janis Karpinski  gives here excuses for the abominations in this essay. She has fingered General Geoffrey D. Miller .

The torture was not just a few bad apples. It goes right to the top. Both Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International USA say there is prima facie evidence against Rumsfeld for war crimes and torture. And Amnesty International USA says there is also prima facie evidence against Bush for war crimes and torture.

The British have been almost as bad. 18 men were charged with sexually abusing and beating to death Iraqi civilians.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:38:49 pm
“These so-called ill-treatments and this torturing in concentration camps, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners that were liberated by the occupying armies, were not, as assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual leaders, subleaders, and men who laid violent hands on internees.”
~ Testimony of Rudolf Hoess, Commandant of Auschwitz, 1946-04-15

Sound familiar?

For a while Bush denied this was happening.
“The Iraqi people are now free. And they do not have to worry about the secret police coming after them in the middle of the night, and they don’t have to worry about their husbands and brothers being taken off and shot, or their wives being taken to **** rooms. Those days are over.”
~ L. Paul Bremer III (born: 1941-09-30 age: 67) Administrator, [Iraq] Coalition Provisional Authority, 2003-09-02

The truth was, now, not only wives were taken, but children. Bush used the Saddam’s own instruments of torture in Saddam’s own dungeons, and Bush built many more.

“Iraq is free of **** rooms and torture chambers.”
~ George W. Bush (born: 1946-07-06 age: 63) , remarks to 2003 Republican National Committee Presidential Gala, 2003-10-08, lying through his teeth. He had videos made of child anal rapes in his possession.

There is a natural reluctance to believe anyone could commit deeds as foul as these, but recall, in every war when the historians picked through the data, they invariably find what really happened was even worse than what was reported during the war. During a war, a country works very hard to excuse, deny and disguise its own wrongdoing least the public lose stomach for the war.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:39:03 pm
Why Torture?

The usual excuse given for torturing is that it is the only way to get crucial information out of terrorists, such as the location of a nuclear attack. This is nonsense. When people are tortured they will say anything they think might stop the torment. They will confess to any preposterous, depraved crime or conspiracy. They will pretend to knowledge they don’t have. Torture is ineffective for getting high quality information. Professional interrogators say you get much better results by developing rapport. If the Americans were serious about getting good information, they would use polygraphs (or better still PET scans which nobody knows how to defeat). So then why torture?

As part of Shock & Awe. American routinely torture all detainees, including children. The idea is to demoralise the Iraqis by convincing them that Americans are even more cruel and brutal that Saddam or the Nazis, and thus that resistance is futile. After surviving that experience the idea is an Iraqi would lick the boots or nether parts of an American rather than suffer than way again.

To get “confessions” to use for political purposes.

For entertainment and sexual pleasure. The sort of people who go into soldiering are natural bullies and sadists. Psychologists tell us that whenever you give absolute power of one group over another, sadism, abuse and torture develop within days. The Americans have overwhelming technological superiority over the Iraqis. This tendency to sadism in that situation is part of human nature. There is nothing unusual about Americans.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:39:35 pm
CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE57M05S20090823

Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:58am EDT


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - CIA interrogators carried out mock executions and threatened an al Qaeda commander with a gun and an electric drill, according to an internal report that provides new details of abuses inside's the agency's secret prisons, two leading U.S. newspapers reported on Saturday.

The Central Intelligence Agency inspector general's report is due to be released on Monday, The New York Times and The Washington Post said on their websites, citing U.S. officials familiar with the document.

The tactics -- which one official described to the Post as a threatened execution -- were used on Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri by CIA jailers who held the handgun and drill close to the prisoner to frighten him into giving up information.

Nashiri, who was captured in November 2002 and held for four years in one of the CIA's "black site" prisons, was one of three al-Qaeda chieftains later subjected to a form of simulated drowning known as waterboarding, the paper said.

The report, completed in 2004 by the inspector general, John L. Helgerson, also says that a mock execution was staged in a room next to one terrorism suspect. CIA officers fired a gun in the next room, leading the prisoner to believe that a second detainee had been killed, the Times said.

Details of the report were first published by Newsweek magazine on its website late on Friday.

A federal judge in New York has ordered a redacted version of the classified CIA report to be made public on Monday, in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Lawyers for the Justice Department and the CIA have been scrutinizing the long-concealed agency report since June to determine how much of it can be made public.

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has been weighing the report's findings as part of a broader probe into the CIA's use of harsh interrogation methods.

Nashiri, who was implicated in the bombing of the Navy destroyer Cole in 2000, was one of two CIA detainees whose interrogation sessions were videotaped, but the tapes were destroyed by CIA officers in 2005, the Times said.

A federal prosecutor is now investigating the destruction of the CIA tapes, but the Justice Department has so far declined to open a formal investigation into the abuses in CIA prisons, the paper said.

The CIA declined to comment on the specifics of the report, the Times said.

"The CIA in no way endorsed behavior -- no matter how infrequent -- that went beyond the formal guidance. This has all been looked at; professionals in the Department of Justice decided if and when to pursue prosecution," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano told the newspaper.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:40:35 pm
Mock Execution Strategy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txR0UKybIRk


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:41:24 pm
CIA Officer Disciplined for Alleged Gun Use in Interrogation
Bush Officials Filed No Charges Over Tactics in Terror Case
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/22/AR2009082202287.html

By Joby Warrick and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 23, 2009

A CIA officer who allegedly used a gun to intimidate a captured al-Qaeda suspect was formally disciplined for violating the agency's rules for conducting interrogations, but Bush administration Justice Department officials ultimately declined to file charges against him, according to two former intelligence officials familiar with the case.

The officer, who has not been identified, was immediately called back to CIA headquarters to face an internal accountability board and was "reprimanded and reassigned" for committing acts outside the CIA's legal guidelines for interrogating terrorism suspects. At the time of the 2002 incident, the guidelines permitted the use of sleep deprivation and waterboarding -- simulated drowning -- on some suspects, according to a former senior intelligence official who closely followed the events.

The CIA officer eventually resigned, two former agency officials confirmed Saturday.

In a separate incident, interrogators reportedly used an electric drill to intimidate the same detainee, al-Qaeda commander Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the group's former chief in the Persian Gulf and the alleged mastermind of the deadly USS Cole suicide bombing in 2000.

(Truth ALERT: They put the drill INTO the bodies of prisoners; as seen in autopsy photos showing wounds consistent with having been repeatedly drilled!!! WashPost does NOT mention this though... wonder why? Torture is ok by WashPost standards...)

"The agency, where appropriate, took its own disciplinary action when the Department of Justice declined prosecution," CIA spokesman George Little said Saturday.

A spokesman for the agency declined to comment on details of the episodes, but current and former government officials said the use of the gun is described in a classified CIA inspector general's report, which is slated to be released in declassified form on Monday.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:41:46 pm
A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment on the contents of the report Saturday.

The CIA disciplinary panel was convened within weeks of the officer allegedly bringing a handgun into an interrogation room at a secret detention facility in an apparent attempt to convince Nashiri he would be killed if he failed to cooperate, U.S. officials said.

The 2004 IG report describes both incidents. Some of its details, including the interrogators' alleged use of the gun and power drill, were made public in an article on Newsweek magazine's Web site late Friday. The magazine also reported that officers staged a mock execution by firing a gun in the cell next to Nashiri's to make him think another detainee had been executed.

A federal judge in New York ordered the release of the report in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has been reviewing the document in an effort to decide whether to launch an investigation into the CIA's coercive interrogation methods.

Some officials involved in the case viewed the use of a gun during interrogation as a possible violation of a U.S. law that prohibits threatening detainees with imminent death. But Justice Department lawyers reviewed the case and declined to file charges, according to several former and current intelligence officials who tracked the case. It was unclear why the lawyers took that position.

A. John Radsan, a former federal prosecutor who also served as assistant general counsel at the CIA, said such a case might be difficult to successfully prosecute.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:42:02 pm
"The victims are not sympathetic. Witnesses may not talk. Evidence may be gone," Radsan said. "If anyone is indicted, there will be the usual graymail. The defendant is going to push [Justice] to reveal things about the program that will even make this administration uncomfortable. The defendant will say whatever he did was reasonable reliance on advice from government lawyers."

(Truth ALERT: If victims are not sympathetic, is Wash Post intimating that the torture is ok? WTF??)

When interviewed by the Red Cross in 2006, Nashiri did not specifically describe the alleged mock execution but said he had been threatened with "sodomy, and the arrest and **** of his family," according to a copy of the humanitarian group's secret report to the Bush administration in February 2007, which was leaked to the New York Review of Books this year. Nine of the 14 former CIA prisoners interviewed reported being subjected to "threats of ill-treatment," it said.

(Truth ALERT: The DID **** and sodomize prisoners, their wives and children.)

The U.S. anti-torture statute bans acts intended to inflict severe mental or physical pain or suffering resulting from, among other things, "the threat of imminent death" or threats of being "subjected to death."

"Mock executions or threats to an individual's life produce extreme fear and loss of control in the victim," said Scott Allen, medical adviser for Physicians for Human Rights, a nonprofit advocacy group that campaigns against torture. "These kinds of threats can have serious, long-lasting psychological impact."

However, an August 2002 Justice Department legal memo in effect at the time of the episode interpreted the anti-torture statute to apply only to the deliberate infliction of suffering or pain that caused prolonged mental harm. In 2006, the U.S. military explicitly revised its field manual to prohibit mock executions.

(Truth ALERT: The Justice dept/white house memo suggested only torture that could cause organ failure was out of bounds. This characterization of the legal memo omits the facts; and is disinfo at best.)


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:42:21 pm
Allen's group said in a June 2008 report that in interviews of 11 detainees who had been held in U.S. military custody overseas, "almost all . . . reported being threatened with severe harm, most commonly through verbal threats during interrogations."

The group reported that "some threats were terrifying claims that the detainee or members of his family would be killed or severely harmed -- or that the detainee would never be released."

Staff writers Karen DeYoung and Carrie Johnson and staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:42:49 pm
CIA report to reveal agency conducted mock executions
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/22/cia-report-to-reveal-mock-executions/

By Muriel Kane Published: August 22, 2009


Update (at bottom): Reporter says revelations coming Monday will be ‘pretty explosive’

The long-delayed release of a CIA inspector general’s report has been scooped by Newsweek, which obtained details from one source who has read a draft of the report and another who was briefed on its contents.

A version of the report with newly declassified details is expected to be released on Monday.

According to Newsweek’s sources, the report will reveal that the CIA interrogators of suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri brandished a gun in front of him in an attempt to make him believe he was going to be shot — thus violating a federal law against threatening a detainee with “imminent death” — and also threatened him with a power drill.

In other cases, mock executions were staged, including one case in which a gun was fired in an adjoining room to make a suspect believe another prisoner had been shot.

The report was commissioned by then-CIA Director George Tenet in 2004, as CIA officials attempted to determine whether the use of “enhanced” interrogation techniques had followed official guidelines. It was shared at the time with the Justice Department and with selected members of the Congressional oversight committees and was shown to the committees as a whole in 2006, but has been kept secret from the public.

The government is now required to turn the report over on Monday as a result of an ACLU Freedom of Information lawsuit. Related documents are to be revealed a week later.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:43:04 pm
It is not clear to what extent the report will be released intact. Last year, a version was released from which the sections on both waterboarding and the ultimate effectiveness of extreme interrogation techniques had both been redacted. It is expected that the report and other documents will say that the use of extreme interrogation techniques did produce some valid intelligence, further fueling the debate over the use of those techniques.

Attorney General Eric Holder is also expected to announce his decision on a possible investigation into the use of torture under the Bush administration. A group of Republican senators has already sent Holder a letter warning that any investigation “could have a number of serious consequences, not just for the honorable members of the intelligence community, but also for the security of all Americans.”


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:43:26 pm
Update: Reporter says revelations coming Monday will be ‘pretty explosive’

Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff, appearing on MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show on Friday night, explained that revelations from the CIA Inspector General’s report will be “pretty explosive,” even though the public version will be significantly redacted.

“About half of the report, I’m told, will still be redacted,” he said. “But, what’s in the half that’s going to be publicly released is going to be pretty explosive.”

The IG report is said to be the most extensive look yet at the Bush administration’s torture programs. RAW STORY will have more details when the report is released to the public.

This video was broadcast by MSNBC on August 21, 2009.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:44:11 pm
Mock Executions of Terror Suspects: Report reveals more harsh CIA methods



CIA torture http://rogerhollander.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/cia-refuses-to-turn-over-torture-tape-documents/



Pamela Hess
Boston Herald
Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:00 UTC
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1192702&format=&page=2&listingType=politics#articleFull

As the Justice Department considers whether to investigate alleged harsh interrogation practices sanctioned by the Bush administration, sources say a soon-to-be-released report by the CIA's inspector general reveals that agency interrogators conducted mock executions of terror suspects.

These latest allegations are contained in a 2004 report that has been kept secret and is to be released next week, two congressional officials told The Associated Press. They spoke late Friday on condition of anonymity because the report has not yet been cleared for release.

Threatening a prisoner with death violates U.S. anti-torture laws.

In one case, interrogators brought a gun and power drill into a session with suspected Cole bomber Abd al Rahim al-Nashiri, the report says. The suicide bombing of the warship USS Cole killed 17 U.S. sailors in Yemen in 2000.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:44:45 pm
(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7037/ciatorture.jpg)

In another episode, a gunshot was fired in a room next to a detainee to make the prisoner believe another suspect had been killed, according to the report, which a federal judge has ordered to be made public Monday in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

The IG report's findings were first reported by Newsweek on its Web site.

Nashiri was one of three CIA prisoners subjected to water boarding, a brutal interrogation technique that simulates drowning that was among 10 techniques approved by the Bush administration's Justice Department in 2002. President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have denounced water boarding as torture.

"The CIA in no way endorsed behavior- no matter how infrequent- that went beyond formal guidance," said agency spokesman Paul Gimigliano. He declined to comment on the contents of the IG report.

Holder is considering whether to appoint a criminal prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration's interrogation practices, a controversial move that would run counter to President Barack Obama's wishes to leave the issue in the past.

Gimigliano said the career prosecutors at the Justice Department have reviewed the report to determine if any laws were broken and whether the interrogators should be prosecuted.

"Professionals in the Department of Justice decided if and when to pursue prosecution," he said. "That's how the system was supposed to work, and that's how it did work."

Just one CIA contract interrogator, David Passaro, has been prosecuted. He was found guilty in 2007 in the beating death of a prisoner in Afghanistan.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Echelon Monitor on September 05, 2009, 11:45:13 pm
The Los Angeles Times reported Aug. 9 that a CIA operative brought a gun into an interrogation booth to force a detainee to talk. One of the congressional officials told the AP that referred to the interrogation of the USS Cole suspect.

The IG review was completed in May 2004. The ACLU has sought its release since then. It was expected to be released earlier this year but was delayed by government request.

The report casts doubt on the effectiveness of the harsh interrogation methods employed by CIA interrogators, according to quotes from the report that were contained in Bush-era Justice Department memos declassified this spring. It says no attacks were averted by information obtained using harsh interrogation methods.

The CIA detained and interrogated 94 terrorist suspects; 28 were subjected to harsh methods. Of those three were water boarded, according to government documents made public earlier this year.

But former CIA Director Michael Hayden said this week at a panel discussion in Washington that the review also credits the harsh interrogation with yielding information on al-Qaida's basic infrastrucutre, which in turn allowed the CIA to fight the organization behind the 9/11 hijackings.

John L. Helgerson, the now-retired CIA inspector who spearheaded the investigation, told the AP in June that the report is a comprehensive review of everything the CIA did in the secret detention and interrogation program begun in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The investigation was undertaken in response to concerns expressed by agency employees about the program, he added.

Source: Associated Press


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:18:00 am
Holder tapping prosecutor to probe ‘nearly a dozen’ CIA interrogations
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/24/holder-tapping-prosecutor-to-probe-nearly-a-dozen-cia-interrogations/
By Raw Story Published: August 24, 2009



America’s torture debate is nowhere near over, according to reports published Monday afternoon.

“Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has decided to appoint a prosecutor to examine nearly a dozen cases in which CIA interrogators and contractors may have violated anti-torture laws and other statutes when they threatened terrorism suspects, according to two sources familiar with the move,” Carrie Johnson reports in The Washington Post.

According to Johnson, “John Durham, a career Justice Department prosecutor from Connecticut,” is being tapped “to lead the high-stakes inquiry, added the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the process is not yet complete.”

The New York Times added: “President Obama does not intend to voice his preference for whether anyone is prosecuted from prisoner abuse cases, a White House spokesman said Monday, and will allow Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to make the decision.”

Durham is no stranger to hard-slog prosecutions. A 30-plus-year veteran, he was most recently appointed by former Attorney General Michael Mukasey to investigate the CIA’s destruction of terror war interrogation tapes.

When Mukasey selected Durham, Talking Points Memo posted a brief outline of his work history, quoting the Associated Press as saying that he’s “one of the nation’s most relentless prosecutors.”

Durham’s investigation of the missing or destroyed CIA interrogation tapes is ongoing, and several high-ranking officials have testified before a federal grand jury in Virginia. That investigation is ongoing.

“Mr. Durham has shrouded his investigation in a level of secrecy rare even by the normally tight-lipped standards of special prosecutors, and after 18 months it is still difficult to assess either the direction or the targets of his investigation,” The New York Times reported in July.

The Post’s report is the first confirmation that the Justice Department will open a formal investigation into the CIA’s alleged torture of terror war prisoners.

“Responsibility for the torture program cannot be laid at the feet of a few low-level operatives,” read a Center for Constitutional Rights statement on the matter. “Some agents in the field may have gone further than the limits so ghoulishly laid out by the lawyers who twisted the law to create legal cover for the program, but it is the lawyers and the officials who oversaw and approved the program who must be investigated.”

The watchdog group added: “We call on the Obama administration not to tie a prosecutor’s hands but to let the investigation go as far up the chain of command as the facts lead. We must send a clear message to the rest of the world, to future officials, and to the victims of torture that justice will be served and that the rule of law has been restored.”


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:18:37 am
IG’s report reveals interrogator restricted detainee’s carotid artery
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/24/igs-report-reveals-pressure-point-torture/
By Stephen C. Webster Published: August 24, 2009


A CIA inspector general’s report written in 2004 was released in a less-redacted version Monday, revealing new details of the agency’s torture techniques applied to terror war prisoners.

Page 77 of the report discusses “unauthorized or undocumented techniques” used by CIA agents but not approved by the Bush administration’s Department of Justice. One such “improvised action” was a pressure point tactic: the compression of a detainee’s carotid artery by an agent with both hands around the prisoner’s neck.

Prolonged compression of the carotid artery is lethal, as it cuts off blood flow to the brain.

“The extent of these actions is illustrative of the consequences of the lack of clear guidance at the time and the Agency’s insufficient attention to interrogations in [redacted],” the report says.

The document also describes a 2003 incident in which an independent contractor beat an Afghan man with a large, metal flashlight. The man later died in U.S. custody and his body was turned over to his family without an autopsy. The contractor was not prosecuted, but the CIA did not extend his paid term. The inspector general notes that the Department of Justice is investigating the incident.

Page 87 also cites an agent who assaulted a religious school teacher who smiled at him and “laughed inappropriately” when asked about the remote detonation of a bomb that killed eight people. The man was struck twice with the butt of an assault rifle but not seriously injured. The report also says that over 200 students witnessed the assault. The agent was taken out of the field for counseling and “given a domestic assignment.”


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:19:07 am
The IG’s report further states, “there is no doubt the Program has been effective” (P. 93) in producing material for finished intelligence reports. However, “[measuring] the effectiveness of the [enhanced interrogation techniques],” the document notes, “is a more subjective process and not without some concern.”

“In an interview, the DCI said he believes the use of [torture] has proven to be extremely valuable in obtaining enormous amounts of critical threat information from detainees who had otherwise believed they were safe from any harm in the hands of Americans,” the report continues (P. 97). “Inasmuch as [torture has] been used only since August 2002, and they have not all been used with every high value detainee, there is limited data on which to assess their individual effectiveness.”

It also notes that the techniques are “inconsistent with the public policy positions that the U.S. has taken regarding human rights.”

The report’s entire recommendations section (P. 114) is censored.

U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr. is reportedly in the process of appointing a special prosecutor to investigate instances of CIA detainee abuse.

DEVELOPING… MORE SOON…

Read the full report below, uploaded by The Washington Independent.

The Washington Post has the full report for download (PDF link).

v1


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:19:48 am
The 2004 CIA Inspector General Report on Torture
 
By Spencer Ackerman 8/24/09 3:15 PM

Classified for years — and still heavily redacted — here is former CIA Inspector General John Helgerson’s 2004 report into the CIA’s Bush-era interrogations operations. The ACLU sued to obtain the controversial report, which was so charged within the agency that former CIA Director Michael Hayden clashed with Helgerson over the inspector general’s independence and investigative authority.

Here is the full report:

http://washingtonindependent.com/56175/the-2004-cia-inspector-generals-report-on-torture


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:20:11 am
Conyers, Nadler Applaud DoJ Appointment of 'Relentless' Special Prosecutor for Torture Probe
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7372#more-7372


Call for 'broad mandate to investigate abuses...policymakers and lawyers...without predetermination of where it may lead'...

After many weeks of speculation, and embarrasingly bad media coverage, Attorney General Eric Holder has finally named a Special Prosecutor to probe the use of torture by the Bush/Cheney Administration. The announcement comes on the same day that a redacted version of a 2004 Inspector General's report [PDF] on the CIA's use of torture was also released. RAW STORY has a good backgrounder on the announcement.

The prosecutor, John Durham, a career DoJ attorney from Connecticut, has already been investigating the CIA's destruction of torture video tapes, and has been described by AP as "one of the nation’s most relentless prosecutors.".

The IG's 122-page report details the beating and death of detainees, threats of violence, death and sexual assault to their family members and other techniques used by U.S. government interrogators that were "inconsistent with the public policy positions that the U.S. has taken regarding human rights."

Shortly after the announcement today, U.S. House Judiciary chair John Conyers (D-MI), and subcommittee chair Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) released a statement applauding the appointment of the Special Prosecutor and calling for a 'broad mandate' to prosecute not just 'frontline personal', but also the 'policymakers and lawyers' who created the "conditions where such absues were all but inevitable to occur."


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:20:34 am
"Seeking out only the low-level actors in a conspiracy to torture detainees will bring neither justice nor restored standing to our nation," says Nadler in the statement (posted in full below).

From Conyers' comments: "The Obama Administration also deserves praise for the release of the 2004 CIA Inspector General report as well as related DOJ memos. These materials are truly disturbing, including the CIA's basic conclusion that 'unauthorized, improvised, inhumane, and undocumented detention and interrogation techniques were used' in its program. Reading about misdeeds such as threats to kill a detainees' children or the staging of mock executions leaves us appalled. ... The gruesome acts described in today's report did not happen in a vacuum. It would not be fair or just for frontline personnel to be held accountable while the policymakers and lawyers escape scrutiny after creating and approving conditions where such abuses were all but inevitable to occur."

From Nadler: "I applaud the Attorney General for this first step. But, we must go further. As I have said for many months, it is vital that this special counsel be given a broad mandate to investigate these abuses, to follow the evidence where it leads, and to prosecute where warranted. This must be a robust mission to gather any and all evidence without predetermination of where it may lead. Seeking out only the low-level actors in a conspiracy to torture detainees will bring neither justice nor restored standing to our nation."

The joint Conyers/Nadler press release follows in full below...

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Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:20:53 am
Monday, August 24, 2009


Conyers and Nadler Applaud Appointment of Special Prosecutor
Policymakers and Lawyers Must Also Be Held to Account

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) and Judiciary Constitution Subcommittee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) issued the following statements in response to the Department of Justice decision to appoint a special prosecutor to review certain cases of alleged abuse of detainees.

"I applaud the Attorney General's decision to appoint a special US Attorney to review the interrogation abuse cases that were rejected for prosecution by George Bush's Justice Department," said Conyers. "The Obama Administration also deserves praise for the release of the 2004 CIA Inspector General report as well as related DOJ memos. These materials are truly disturbing, including the CIA's basic conclusion that 'unauthorized, improvised, inhumane, and undocumented detention and interrogation techniques were used' in its program. Reading about misdeeds such as threats to kill a detainees' children or the staging of mock executions leaves us appalled.

"Today's release --- even of these still heavily redacted materials --- is thus an important step toward restoring the rule of law in this country, and rebuilding our credibility around the world. But much more remains to be done. The gruesome acts described in today's report did not happen in a vacuum. It would not be fair or just for frontline personnel to be held accountable while the policymakers and lawyers escape scrutiny after creating and approving conditions where such abuses were all but inevitable to occur.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:21:14 am
"I have long believed that Department rules require a special counsel to review the entire interrogation program to determine if any crimes were committed. An independent and bipartisan commission should also be convened to evaluate the broader issues raised by the Bush Administration's brutal torture program."

"The CIA Inspector General's report on interrogation practices under the Bush administration is a disturbing record of abuse that details why this must never happen again and why action on the part of the Justice Department is essential," said Nadler. "Today's news that the Attorney General has listened to our many requests and is poised to appoint a special counsel is very much welcome. I applaud the Attorney General for this first step. But, we must go further. As I have said for many months, it is vital that this special counsel be given a broad mandate to investigate these abuses, to follow the evidence where it leads, and to prosecute where warranted. This must be a robust mission to gather any and all evidence without predetermination of where it may lead. Seeking out only the low-level actors in a conspiracy to torture detainees will bring neither justice nor restored standing to our nation."
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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:21:36 am
'Inhumane' CIA terror tactics spur criminal probe

By DEVLIN BARRETT and PAMELA HESS, AP
22 minutes ago


 'Inhumane' CIA terror tactics spur criminal probe
Deputy White House Press Secretary Bill Burton conducts the daily press briefing of media at a makeshift filing center in the gym at the Oak Bluffs School in Oak Bluffs, Mass., Monday, Aug. 24, 2009. (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia)

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090822/US.CIA.Interrogations/


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:22:14 am
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration launched a criminal probe Monday into "unauthorized ... inhumane" interrogations of terror suspects during President George W. Bush's war on terrorism, spurred by newly declassified revelations of CIA tactics including threats to kill one suspect's children and to force another to watch his mother sexually assaulted.

At the same time, President Barack Obama ordered changes in future questioning of detainees, bringing in other agencies besides the CIA under direction of the FBI and supervised by his own national security adviser. The administration pledged questioning would be controlled by the Army Field Manual, with strict rules on tactics, and said the White House would keep its hands off the professional investigators doing the work.

Despite the announcement of the criminal investigation, several Obama spokesmen declared anew — as the president has repeatedly — that on the subject of detainee interrogation he "wants to look forward, not back" at Bush tactics. They took pains to say decisions on any prosecutions would be up to Attorney General Eric Holder, not the White House.

Monday's five-year-old report by the CIA's inspector general, released under a federal court's orders, described harsh tactics used by interrogators on terror suspects after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Seeking information about possible further attacks, interrogators threatened one detainee with a gun and a power drill and tried to frighten another with a mock execution of another prisoner.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:22:30 am
Attorney General Holder said he had chosen a veteran prosecutor to determine whether any CIA officers or contractors should face criminal charges for crossing the line on rough but permissible tactics.

Obama has said interrogators would not face charges if they followed legal guidelines, but the report by the CIA's inspector general said they went too far — even beyond what was authorized under Justice Department legal memos that have since been withdrawn and discredited. The report also suggested some questioners knew they were crossing a line.

"Ten years from now we're going to be sorry we're doing this (but) it has to be done," one unidentified CIA officer was quoted as saying, predicting the questioners would someday have to appear in court to answer for such tactics.

The report concluded the CIA used "unauthorized, improvised, inhumane" practices in questioning "high-value" terror suspects.

Monday's documents represent the largest single release of information about the Bush administration's once-secret system of capturing terrorism suspects and interrogating them in overseas prisons.

White House officials said they plan to continue the controversial practice of rendition of suspects to foreign countries, though they said that in future cases they would more carefully check to make sure such suspects are not tortured.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:22:48 am
In one instance cited in the new documents, Abd al-Nashiri, the man accused of being behind the 2000 USS Cole bombing, was hooded, handcuffed and threatened with an unloaded gun and a power drill. The unidentified interrogator also threatened Nashiri's mother and family, implying they would be sexually abused in front of him, according to the report.

Other interrogators told alleged Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, "if anything else happens in the United States, 'We're going to kill your children,'" one veteran officer said in the report.

Death threats violate anti-torture laws. The interrogator denied making a direct threat.

In another instance, an interrogator pinched the carotid artery of a detainee until he started to pass out, then shook him awake. He did this three times. The interrogator said he had never been taught how to conduct detainee questioning.

Top Republican senators said they were troubled by the decision to begin a new investigation, which they said could weaken U.S. intelligence efforts. Sen. Patrick Leahy, the Democratic chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said the revelations showed the Bush administration went down a "dark road of excusing torture."


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:23:04 am
Investigators credited the detention-and-interrogation program for developing intelligence that prevented multiple attacks against Americans. One CIA operative interviewed for the report said the program thwarted al-Qaida plots to attack the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan, derail trains, blow up gas stations and cut the suspension line of a bridge.

"In this regard, there is no doubt that the program has been effective," investigators wrote, backing an argument by former Vice President Dick Cheney and others that the program saved lives.

But the inspector general said it was unclear whether so-called "enhanced interrogation" tactics contributed to that success. Those tactics include waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique that the Obama administration says is torture. Measuring the success of such interrogation is "a more subjective process and not without some concern," the report said.

The report describes at least one mock execution, which would also violate U.S. anti-torture laws. To terrify one detainee, interrogators pretended to execute the prisoner in a nearby room. A senior officer said it was a transparent ruse that yielded no benefit.

As the report was released, Attorney General Holder appointed prosecutor John Durham to open a preliminary investigation into the claims of abuse. Durham is already investigating the destruction of CIA interrogation videos and now will examine whether CIA officers or contractors broke laws in the handling of suspects.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:23:20 am
The administration also announced Monday that all U.S. interrogators will follow the rules for detainees laid out by the Army Field Manual. The manual, last updated in September 2006, prohibits forcing detainees to be naked, threatening them with military dogs, exposing them to extreme heat or cold, conducting mock executions, depriving them of food, water, or medical care, and waterboarding.

Formation of the new interrogation unit for "high-value" detainees does not mean the CIA is out of the business of questioning terror suspects, deputy White House press secretary Bill Burton told reporters covering the vacationing president on Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts.

Burton said the unit will include "all these different elements under one group" and will be located at the FBI headquarters in Washington.

The structure of the new unit the White House is creating would be significantly broader than under the Bush administration, when the CIA had the lead and sometimes exclusive role in questioning al-Qaida suspects.

Obama campaigned vigorously against Bush administration interrogation practices in his successful run for the presidency. He has said more recently he didn't particularly favor prosecuting officials in connection with instances of prisoner abuse.

Burton said Holder "ultimately is going to make the decisions."

CIA Director Leon Panetta said in an e-mail message to agency employees Monday that he intended "to stand up for those officers who did what their country asked and who followed the legal guidance they were given. That is the president's position, too," he said.

Panetta said some CIA officers have been disciplined for going beyond the methods approved for interrogations by the Bush-era Justice Department. Just one CIA employee — contractor David Passaro_ has been prosecuted for detainee abuse.

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Associated Press Writers Matt Apuzzo and Jennifer Loven in Washington and Philip Elliott in Oak Bluffs, Mass., contributed to this story.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:23:42 am
CIA interrogators threatened to kill children of 9/11 plotter
Updated at: 0222 PST,  Tuesday, August 25, 2009
http://www.geo.tv/8-25-2009/48174.htm

 WASHINGTON: Interrogators at secret CIA prisons threatened to kill the children of September 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, official documents showed Monday.

Interrogators, "said to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that if anything else happens in the United States, 'We're going to kill your children,'" according to official CIA documents released by the Department of Justice.

Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, was held at secret CIA prisons until 2006 before his arrival at the US detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
 


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:23:57 am
CIA Withheld Medical Information From the Justice Department to Obtain Torture Approvals
 http://washingtonindependent.com/56278/cia-withheld-medical-information-from-the-justice-department-to-obtain-torture-approvals
By Spencer Ackerman 8/24/09 4:58 PM

It’s almost enough to generate sympathy for Jay Bybee and John Yoo, the two heads the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel in 2002 who signed off on the infamous torture memos. According to the 2004 CIA inspector general’s report on torture, Bybee and Yoo didn’t make their decisions based on complete information, and information CIA provided to them on the efficacy of torture was, in some cases “appreciably overstated,” “exaggerated” and “probably misrepresented.”

A few months before the March 2002 capture of Abu Zubaydah prompted discussion at the highest levels of the Bush administration as to what interrogation policy ought to be, the CIA in late 2001 solicited a report from James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, two former SERE officials, about how to overcome “countermeasures” al-Qaeda developed to resist interrogation. As a result, the report states, the CIA’s Office of Technical Services “obtained data on the use of the proposed” torture techniques listed in Mitchell and Jessen’s report and the techniques’ “potential long-term psychological effects on detainees.” OTS also got input from the Defense Department’s Joint Personnel Recovery Agency, which oversees the SERE program, as documented in the Senate Armed Services Committee’s torture report from last year. That OTS report was the basis for the information about proposed torture techniques provided to the Justice Department in spring 2002 that Yoo and Bybee, in their August 2002 torture memos, consider for application to Abu Zubaydah.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:24:12 am
In the August 1, 2002 memo written by Bybee and Yoo, the lawyers summarize and refer repeatedly to what the CIA told them about how the “enhanced interrogation techniques” are supposed to work, as well as to assurances that the lawyers then consider material for whether the proposed actions violate U.S. laws. For instance, discussing waterboarding, they write, that water would be applied “in a controlled manner,” and that the CIA orally informed them that “this procedure triggers an automatic physiological sensation of drowning that the individual cannot control even though he may be aware that he is in fact not drowning.”

Just one problem: CIA medical personal objected to the description that OTS gave to the Justice Department as factually inaccurate.

Addressing the discrepancies between how waterboarding worked in the SERE school and how it worked at CIA and other torture techniques that changed between on-paper justification and in-the-field practice, a footnote to the inspector general’s 2004 report reads:


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:24:25 am
According to the Chief, Medical Services, OMS [the CIA's Office of Medical Services] was neither consulted nor involved in the initial analysis of the risk and benefits of EITs [”enhanced interrogation techniques,” nor provided with the OTS report cited in the OLC opinion. In retrospect, based on the OLC extracts of the OTS report, OMS contends that the reported sophistication of the preliminary EIT review was probably exaggerated, at least as it related to the waterboard, and that the power of this EIT was appreciably overstated in the report. Furthermore, OMS contends that the expertise of the SERE psychologist/interrogators on the waterboard was probably misrepresented at the time, as the SERE waterboard experience is so different from the subsequent Agency usage as to make it almost irrelevant. Consequently, according to OMS, there was no a priori reason to believe that applying the waterboard with the frequency and intensity with which it was used by the psychologist/interrogators was either efficacious or medically safe.

This is hardly the only time during the Bush administration where the CIA cut out of the loop elements from within its own ranks that might not ratify a decision desired by the Bush administration. During the lead-up to the war with Iraq — indeed, during this same time period of early-mid 2002 — the CIA’s chief analyst, Jami Miscik, cut out of CIA analysis on the alleged relationship between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda the agency’s own Mideast analysts, who were dubious of any substantive connection.

It is unclear if Yoo or Bybee would have changed their analysis had they been treated to a full account of OMS’s perspective. But it’s crystal clear from the report that fateful decisions were made without the benefit of complete information.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:24:52 am
CIA Threatened To Kill Suspect's Children
Interrogator Told Sheikh Mohammed If Any Other Attacks Happened, 'We're Going To Kill Your Children'
Attorney General Eric Holder To Reopen Investigation
http://cbs2.com/national/prisoner.abuse.probe.2.1142061.html?detectflash=false
Aug 24, 2009 12:29 pm US/Pacific

    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, arrested al Qaeda leader and mastermind of September 11 terrorist attacks, is seen on March 1, 2003, after capture during a raid in Pakistan. (File)

    Attorney General nominee Eric Holder testifies during his confirmation hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill on Jan. 15, 2009, in Washington DC.

(http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/0/2009/05/02/175x131/Khalid_SheikMohammed814997.jpg)


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:25:07 am
A newly declassified CIA report says interrogators threatened to kill the children of a Sept. 11 suspect.

The document, released Monday by the Justice Department, says one interrogator said a colleague had told Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that if any other attacks happened in the United States, "We're going to kill your children."

Another interrogator allegedly tried to convince a different terror suspect detainee that his mother would be sexually assaulted in front of him - though the interrogator in question denied making such a threat.

The report, written in 2004, examined CIA treatment of terror detainees following the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It has been declassified as part of a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union.

    * CIA Used Inappropriate Interrogation Tactics?
    * Department Of Justice Office Of Professional Responsibility


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:25:18 am
Meanwhile, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. named John Durham, a Justice Department prosecutor, to investigate whether interrogators may have broken any laws by threatening terror suspects.

"I don't think that the attorney general had much choice, politically anyway, but to take this step and launch this criminal investigation," writes CBS News legal analyst Andrew Cohen. "And even the CIA itself acknowledges that some of its agents, current and former, went beyond legal limits in interrogation. The question is whether crimes were committed and can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt."

This is just an initial step," Cohen adds. "Just because there is now a prosecutor doesn't guarantee we'll see any CIA trials and certainly doesn't ensure any convictions. All of the problems that existed before-problems with classified information and inadmissible evidence-still remain."

Obama campaigned vigorously against President George W. Bush's interrogation policies in his successful run for the presidency. He has said more recently he didn't particularly favor prosecuting Bush administration officials in connection with instances of prisoner abuse. But Holder's decision means the new administration will do precisely that: reopen several such cases with an eye toward possible criminal prosecution.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:25:40 am
Obama created task forces to study U.S. policy and practices on handling terrorism captives shortly after taking office. Obama has vowed to close the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, military prison by next year, hoping to free those prisoners against whom there is no case, to transfer others to the custody of other countries and to put still others on trial, ending their condition of limbo in the U.S. brig.

The new group and new directives to rely soley on the Army Field Manual when interrogating prisoners is an attempt by the administration to separate itself from allegation that the Bush administration tortured some prisoners. While the practice of waterboarding - simulated drowning - has been banned, the field manual directives would also end the practice of subjecting prisoners to loud music for long periods and sleep deprivation.

Subjecting prisoner abuse cases to a new review and possible prosecution could expose CIA employees and agency contractors to criminal prosecution for the alleged mistreatment of terror suspects in the years after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Holder reportedly reacted with disgust when he first read accounts of prisoner abuse earlier this year in a classified version of the IG report.

The Justice report is said to reveal how interrogators conducted mock executions and threatened at least one man with a gun and a power drill. Threatening a prisoner with death violates U.S. anti-torture laws.

A federal judge has ordered the IG report made public Monday, in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union.

A CIA spokesman, Paul Gimigliano, told the Times that the recommendation to reopen the cases had not been sent to the agency.

The accounts of the White House-supervised interrogation unit and the ethics recommendation to Holder were first reported, respectively,  by The Washington Post and The New York Times.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:25:54 am
New details emerge of CIA interrogators' treatment of prisoners

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cia-report25-2009aug25,0,4353125.story
By Greg Miller August 25, 2009
The Obama administration releases parts of a 2004 report on the CIA's post-9/11 interrogation program. Prisoners were choked to the point of passing out and their families were threatened, it says.

Reporting from Washington - The Obama administration disclosed new cases of alleged abuse in the CIA's interrogation program today, issuing a report that described how prisoners were choked to the point of passing out and threatened with harm to their immediate families.

The newly declassified report by the CIA's inspector general also reveals that agency personnel were nervous almost from the inception of the interrogation program that one day they would face prosecution in U.S. or international courts.

The likelihood of that outcome increased today as Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. appointed a prosecutor to review a collection of CIA cases, setting the stage for a probe that could lead to criminal charges for CIA personnel.

The move was largely driven by the disturbing details contained in the 2004 inspector general report, a document that sent ripples of anxiety through the government when it was first issued but became available for public view -- at least in part -- for the first time today. Large sections of the report remained blacked out.

The document includes fresh details that had not been previously disclosed. Among them are that top Al Qaeda prisoners were told that their family members faced harm if detainees didn't yield information.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:26:31 am
"We could get your mother in here," a CIA interrogator told Abd al Rahim al Nashiri, the man authorities believe plotted the bombing of the U.S. destroyer Cole, according to the report. The threat was meant to prey on fears in Middle East circles that prisoners would be made to witness the sexual abuse of their immediate family members.

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, suspected of masterminding the Sept. 11 attacks, was told, "We're going to kill your children," the report said.

The document provides the most extensive examination to date of CIA conduct in a constellation of secret prisons that the agency set up after Sept. 11. In some cases, the report praises how the prisons were run, and acknowledges that the program provided intelligence that let to other captures and the disruption of planned attacks.

But the report also faults CIA personnel -- from the bottom ranks to the top -- for failures in oversight and breakdowns during interrogations. It also sounded a warning that what the agency was doing could be out of step with the nation's values and commitments.

The techniques being used "are inconsistent with the public policy positions that the United States has taken regarding human rights," the report said, citing the anxieties of case officers convinced that they would one day be held to account.

"One officer expressed concern that one day, agency officers will wind up on some 'wanted list' to appear before the World Court for war crimes stemming from activities" in the secret prison sites, the report said.

Many of the incidents described in the document were previously disclosed. The inspector general expresses the deepest misgivings, for example, with how frequently CIA interrogators were subjecting prisoners to the simulated drowning method known as waterboarding.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:26:47 am
When pressed on why the CIA was using larger volumes of water than had been used in U.S. military training, one of the psychologists overseeing the program replied that was because unlike the exercises for American soldiers, the interrogation of Al Qaeda prisoners was "for real."  What military training?  This **** isn't taught in boot camp and this suggests that all military personnel engage in this!

But 23 pages of the report, much of it apparently dealing with the agency's use of waterboarding, remained redacted, appearing as page after page of blacked-out text.

Among the new disclosures was that the CIA in at least one 2002 instance employed a method known as "pressure points" -- wrapping hands around a prisoner's carotid artery. The interrogator "watched his eyes to the point that the detainee would nod and start to pass out" before being shaken awake, the report stated.

President Obama outlawed the CIA's use of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques in January, and ordered the agency's secret prison facilities closed. Obama this week approved the creation of a new interrogation program, drawing on experts from the FBI and other agencies -- all required to abide by the strict interrogation guidelines in the U.S. Army Field Manual.

CIA Director Leon E. Panetta issued a statement to the agency's workforce today saying that the release of the details was "in many ways an old story. The outlines of prior interrogation practices, and many of the details, are public already. . . . For the CIA now, the challenge is not the battles of yesterday, but those of today and tomorrow."

greg.miller@latimes.com

Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:27:31 am
White House to supervise High-Value Interrogation Group
Monday, 24 August 2009 18:06

(http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/images/stories/misc/prisoner082409_opt.jpg)


BY MICHAEL BOWMAN VOA NEWS

WASHINGTON — The White House says it will directly supervise a new unit that is being set up to interrogate high value terror detainees. The announcement came Monday as the Obama administration named a federal prosecutor who will investigate past cases of detainee mistreatment.

For years, the Central Intelligence Agency stood at the forefront of U.S. efforts to extract information from terror suspects in the post-9/11 era. That role is changing, according to White House spokesman Bill Burton.

"The president, at the consensus recommendation of his inter-agency task force on interrogations and detainees did put in place a new group, the High-Value Interrogation Group, which will be housed at the FBI [Federal Bureau of Investigations]," said Bill Burton. "And it will bring together all the different elements of the intelligence community to get the best intelligence possible."

Burton spoke in Massachusetts, where President Barack Obama is on a weeklong vacation.

Administration officials say the CIA will continue to take part in interrogations, but that an FBI official will direct the effort with oversight by the National Security Council, which reports directly to the president.

President Obama came to office promising to outlaw torture in U.S. intelligence gathering. But just what constitutes torture has been a matter of debate in Washington. The Bush administration strenuously defended so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" like sleep deprivation to obtain information from detainees, and admitted to harsher treatment, like the simulated drowning technique called water boarding, that was used in the immediate aftermath of the September 11 terror attacks.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:27:51 am
The Obama administration has made no move to prosecute former high ranking Bush administration officials for torture, but has left open the possibility of charging anyone who exceeded Bush-era guidelines on the treatment of terror suspects.

White House spokesman Burton says President Obama's view of the matter has not changed.

"He [Obama] does agree with the attorney general that anyone who conducted actions that had been sanctioned [by the Bush administration] should not be prosecuted," he said. "But ultimately, the decisions on who is investigated and who is prosecuted are up to the attorney general. The president thinks that Eric Holder, who he appointed as a very independent attorney general, should make those decisions."

Attorney General Holder later selected federal prosecutor John Durham to investigate prisoner abuse cases. Durham is already probing the destruction of dozens of videotapes of CIA interrogations that could have shed additional light on U.S. treatment of terror suspects.

Meanwhile, the Justice Department released a declassified CIA report from 2004 detailing past interrogations of terror suspects and the techniques that were used. In one case, a U.S. interrogator reportedly threatened to kill the children of detained al Qaida mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed if new terrorist attacks were launched on the United States.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:28:08 am
For some, the scrutiny and publicizing of past intelligence operations serves no purpose but to aid America's enemies. Former Vice President Dick Cheney spoke at length on the subject at a Washington forum in May.

"From the beginning of the [interrogation] program, there was only one focused and all-important purpose: we sought and we obtained specific information on terrorist plans," said Dick Cheney. "And to call this a program of torture is to libel [denigrate] the dedicated professionals who have saved American lives. After the most lethal and devastating terrorist attack ever, 7.5 years without a repeat is not a record to be rebuked and scorned, much less criminalized."

The Obama administration says the United States will follow interrogation guidelines set forth in the U.S. Army Field Manual, which conform with U.S. and international law.


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Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:28:25 am
‘Prolonged diapering’ revealed as ‘enhanced interrogation technique’
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/25/prolonged-diapering-revealed/
By Stephen C. Webster Published: August 25, 2009


A CIA inspector general report released Monday in a less-redacted version reveals that “prolonged diapering” was on the agency’s list of approved “enhanced” interrogation techniques. The revelation is in Appendix F, included in the IG’s report on page 149, as part of a set of guidelines for “medical and psychological support to detainee interrogations.” The document is dated Sept. 4, 2003.

According to American Civil Liberties Union staff attorney Jameel Jaffer, this is the first document released publicly which categorizes diapering as an enhanced interrogation technique. Another ACLU source told RAW STORY that while they are familiar with the use of diapers on clients being transported, this is “news to us.”

The document in Appendix F of the IG report reads: “Captured terrorists turned over to the CIA may be subjected to a wide range of legally sanctioned techniques, all of which are used on U.S. military personnel in SERE training programs. They are designed to psychologically ‘dislocate’ the detainee, maximizing his feelings of vulnerability and helplessness, and reduce or eliminate his will to resist our efforts to obtain critical intelligence.” The list, organized in “ascending degree of intensity,” says the following were approved standard measures “without physical or substantial psychological pressure”:

Shaving Stripping Diapering Hooding Isolation White noise or loud music (at a decibel level that will not damage hearing) Continuous light or darkness Uncomfortably cool environment Restricted diet, including reduced caloric intake (sufficient to maintain general health) Water dousing Sleep deprivation (up to 72 hours)


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:28:41 am
A second list of “enhanced” measures “with physical or psychological pressure beyond the above” reads:

Attention grasp Facial hold Insult (facial) slap Abdominal slap Prolonged diapering Sleep deprivation (over 72 hours) Stress positions –On knees, body slanted forward or backward –Leaning with forehead on wall Walling Cramped confinement Waterboard

The appearance of diapering on the list seems to contradict an Office of Legal Counsel memo (PDF link) written by former Bush administration lawyer Steven Bradbury in 2005. Bradbury claimed diapering “is not used for the purpose of humiliating the detainee, and it is not considered to be an interrogation technique.” However, in the appendix of the IG’s report, “prolonged diapering” was on the list of approved interrogation techniques (P. 150). While diapering is included on page 149 as a standard technique — along with shaving, stripping, hooding and isolation — it is also listed as one of a number of “enhanced measures,” with an intensity level below waterboarding, but above the “abdominal slap.”

The report does not define “prolonged” as it applies to diapering, nor does it confirm whether it was used on any prisoners. It is also unknown when exactly diapering was authorized as an EIT, and whether or not the order was rescinded before the 2005 Bradbury memo. Describing standard diapering, Bradbury wrote, “The detainee’s skin condition is monitored and diapers are changed as needed so that the detainee does not remain in a soiled diaper.” Bradbury is one of three former Bush administration attorneys — including John Yoo and Jay Bybee — whose legal memos are being probed by the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is reportedly in the process of appointing a special prosecutor to investigate instances of CIA detainee abuse.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:28:58 am
Spencer Ackerman, reporting for the Washington Independent, speculates that “prolonged diapering” could be the “eleventh” EIT.

“The 2004 CIA inspector general’s report on torture says clearly that in 2002, the CIA proposed to the Justice Department the use of eleven “enhanced interrogation techniques,”’ Ackerman writes. “Ten of them got the approval of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel in August 2002 in the infamous Jay Bybee/John Yoo memo declassified by the Obama administration in April: the attention grasp; walling; the facial hold; the facial or insult slap; cramped confinement; insects; wall standing; stress positions; sleep deprivation; the waterboard. But what happened to the eleventh?”

Quoting the memo, he writes, “The Agency eliminated one proposed technique — [REDACTED] — after learning from DoJ that this could delay the legal review.”

“But an appendix to the report written by former CIA Director George Tenet gives an indication as to what that eleventh technique was — and says that it’s permissible,” Ackerman continues. “Take a look at Appendix E, Tenet’s January 28, 2003 memorandum on guidelines for both ’standard’ and ‘enhanced’ interrogations. Tenet’s list of ‘enhanced’ techniques, you’ll notice, number eleven:

These techniques are, [sic] the attention grasp, walling, the facial hold, the facial slap (insult slap), the abdominal slap, cramped confinement, wall standing, stress positions, sleep deprivation beyond 72 hours, the use of diapers for prolonged periods, the use of harmless insects, the water board, and such techniques as may be specifically approved pursuant to paragraph 4 below.

Ackerman adds, “All the others on Tenet’s list were approved by the Office of Legal Counsel in August of 2002. But that diapering technique was never approved by the Justice Department. Tenet considered ‘the use of diapers for limited periods (generally not to exceed 72 hours)’ to be a ’standard’ technique, as I blogged earlier. But it’s at least conceivable that the Justice Department would have thought reviewing prolonged diapering would have delayed the 2002 review, since the humiliation and health issues of forcing someone to remain in their own filth for over three days raise serious legal issues.”


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:29:43 am
CIA IG Report Question of the Morning
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/08/cia-ig-report-question-morning
— By Nick Baumann | Tue August 25, 2009 6:54 AM PST


Lots of people have highlighted this passage from the 2004 CIA Inspector General's report:

Glenn Greenwald has a good rundown of some of the other most damning passages. Here's what I'm wondering: which country is "widely believed" to include "sexually abusing female relatives in front of the detainee" as part of its interrogation practices? And do we send people there for torture?


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:31:02 am
Medieval Torture

During the Middle Ages, torture was a very common way to punish offenders. Following are the most common torture devices used during the Middle Ages. Viewer discretion is advised.

Introduction - Read the introduction to medieval torture before heading to the torture instruments.

Judas Cradle - The Judas Cradle is a very painful torture. The victim was seated on a triangular-shaped seat where he or she was slowly impaled.

Coffin Torture - The coffin torture - a very cruel medieval device where the victim was locked for hours or longer.

The Brazen Bull - The brazen bull was a terrible torture device used in ancient Greece and throughout the Middle Ages.

The Rack Torture - The rack is commonly referred as the most painful medieval torture of them all.

The Water Torture - There were many ways to punish a victim with the use of water. This article explains the most common forms of such torture.

Exposure - A terrible torture that was often deadly. The exposure was a method used all around medieval Europe. The sentence depended on the crime.

The Chair of Torture - A striking instrument, the Chair was widely used throughout medieval Europe and beyond. It's origins are not clear, but the truth remains: This is one of the most painful and psychologically striking tortures ever devised by the human mind.

The Pear of Anguish - A very painful torture applied almost exclusively on witches, liars, blasphemers and homosexuals.

The Rat Torture - Rats were used for torture. They were free, available and painful if known how to use.

The Breast Ripper - A very cruel form of torture was the Breast Ripper. A variant, The Spider, was similarly painful and frequently fatal.

The Head Crusher - The head crusher was a psychologically striking instrument that was mainly used to extract confessions.

Saw Torture - The Saw was a humiliating and painful torture available everywhere.

The Virgin of Nuremberg (The Maiden) - The Maiden, also known as the Virgin of Nuremberg, was a torture device that consisted of a coffin with the face of a maiden full of spikes on every wall.

The Spanish Tickler - A terrible torture used to tear a victim's flesh apart. It was commonly used in Spain.

Garrotte Torture - The Garrotte was mostly used for executions and was very frequently used in Spain, hence its name.

Flagellation (Whipping) - Describes the act of flagellation or whipping. Its use was very common in Ancient Rome, but it was stil a favorite form of punishment during the Middle Ages.

The Wheel Torture (Breaking Wheel) - The Wheel torture was a very painful form of capital punishment. Death could be prolonged to a day or more.


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Lighthizer on September 06, 2009, 01:31:19 am
Foot Roasting - Foot roasting was used in the Middle Ages to extract confessions. The Templar Knights, among many other orders, were tortured with this same method.

Burning at the Stake - Being burned at the stake was a terrible way to die. It could take several hours for death to occur and the causes of death were diverse.

Thumbscrew Torture - A painful torture mostly used to extract confessions before moving to more painful torture methods.

The Heretics Fork - A painful torture used to restrain a victim. It was used throughout the Middle Ages, but it reached its peak during the Spanish Inquisition.

Flaying Torture - A very old and painful method that consists of "skinning" a person alive.

Lead Sprinkler - The lead sprinkler was used to torture victims by pouring molten metals in different parts of their body.

Knee Splitter - Used for destroying body parts, the knee splitter was a terrifying torture device that could even bring death.

The Spanish Spider - A variant of the breast ripper, the Spanish Spider is an instrument capable of mutilating a woman's breasts.

Pillory Torture - A mild form of punishment, the pillory was frequently used in the medieval world.

Crocodile Tube - The crocodile tube was used to kill or extract confessions. It was one of the cruelest torture devices ever used on human beings.

The Brank - The Brank was used to humiliate women who "broke the public order" through gossip or other means.

Click this link for sickening details http://www.medievality.com/torture.html


Title: Re: CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Post by: Cydonian on January 03, 2010, 01:04:31 am
So who cares?  Does anybody care?  We were at war!!