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Title: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Jennie McGrath on August 15, 2008, 09:08:40 am
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Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say
Story Highlights
North Georgia men say they've found a den of Bigfoot creatures

They say they'll reveal details of one Bigfoot on Friday in California

The body of the furry half man-half ape is 7 feet, 7 inches tall, they say

Men won't reveal Bigfoot den's location because they don't want others disturbed

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(CNN) -- A policeman and a former corrections officer say that on Friday they will unveil evidence of what they claim is their biggest find ever: the body of Bigfoot.


The thawed body of a creature reputed to be Bigfoot reportedly weighs more than 500 pounds.

 1 of 2  Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, a pair of Bigfoot-hunting hobbyists from north Georgia, say they found the creature's body in a wooded area and spotted several similar creatures that were still alive.

The carcass of the furry half-man, half-ape is 7 feet, 7 inches tall and weighs more than 500 pounds, they say. However, the two are not disclosing the exact location of their discovery to protect the remaining creatures.

Tom Nelson, chairman of the biology department at North Georgia College and State University in Dahlonega, said he's "pretty skeptical" the world will feast its eyes on a new species Friday.

"That would certainly rock mammalogy," joked Nelson, who specializes in the study of mammals. "I see a research grant in my future."

Whitton and Dyer plan to unveil what they say is DNA and photo evidence of the discovery in Palo Alto, California, in conjunction with a group called Searching for Bigfoot Inc.

A photograph on that group's Web site shows what appears to be the body of a large, hairy creature with an ape-like face, stuffed into a large freezer.

According to a written release, the two announced the discovery on an Internet radio show, "Squatch Detective," several weeks ago.

"The only person we would allow to come down and verify the body was 'the Real Bigfoot Hunter,' Tom Biscardi," Dyer said, referring to Searching for Bigfoot's CEO, who has been looking for the elusive, legendary creature in the United States and Canada since 1971.

Whitton is a Georgia police officer who is on administrative leave after being shot in the wrist during a pursuit. Dyer is a former prison guard.

DNA tests on the body have begun, said the statement, and "extensive scientific studies" will be done on the body by scientists, including a molecular biologist, an anthropologist and a paleontologist.

Nelson, the university professor, acknowledged that new species of animals have been discovered in recent decades and that, in science, "we always acknowledge the possibility of something new."

But he said that even in north Georgia, home to the Blue Ridge Mountains and the foot of the Appalachian Trail, it stretches the imagination to think a family of 7-foot-tall creatures could have eluded hunters, hikers and creeping development until now.

"To the average person, these places just seem like extreme wilderness where you'll find lions and tigers and bears," he said. "The reality is that you're never more than a mile from a road."

The group says the animal is male, has reddish hair and "blackish-gray" eyes and human-like feet, hands and teeth.

CNN's Doug Gross contributed to this report.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Jennie McGrath on August 15, 2008, 09:16:47 am

From left, Matthew Whitton, Tom Biscardi and Rick Dyer next to the frozen creature.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Rage Against the Machine on August 15, 2008, 11:59:17 am
Sure hope this pans out!  Can you imagine how it would change the way science is forced to re-examine cryptozoology and the world around us??

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Volitzer on August 15, 2008, 02:14:49 pm
I knew they were real.  Too many sightings and that one 1970s film of the creature looking back.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: HereForNow on August 15, 2008, 04:12:31 pm
I'm impressed at how real looking the being is.

However, this would have been a much bigger deal to world news.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:20:27 am
Not so fast, according to another Bigfoot tracker site, it resembles a Halloween costume:


This  is the ONLY foto of the 
supposed dead bigfoot

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:21:59 am
The Halloween costume it resembles:



Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:22:48 am

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:24:13 am


Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:26:32 am
The full press conference, it's 43 minutes long:

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:28:36 am

The Bigfoot field organization, the only scientific organization looking for Bigfoot.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:31:21 am

The Georgia Bigfoot Body Hoax all started with a web site created by two guys in Georgia calling themselves the "Georgia Bigfoot Trackers." Their site is

Their full names are Matthew Gary Whitton and Ricky Traylor Chuck Dyer.

Whitton is a sheriff deputy of 6 years. Dyer is a transient, used car salesman. Dyer has had 14 different residences in the past 6 six years. He never worked as a prison guard, nor did he serve as an Army Ranger, as he has been claiming.

No one in the bigfoot research community had ever heard of these two guys before, and vice versa. But they put up a web site wherein they claimed to be the "best bigfoot trackers in the world".

It was strange.

They obviously hadn't been following the subject for long, because, for example, they had never heard of Jeff Meldrum ... the prominent expert who had appeared on numerous TV shows talking about the subject.

In the beginning they did not claim to have a body. In fact, they made it clear that they had nothing, but they said they would try to capture one.

They put out clownish YouTube videos offering to take people on bigfoot expeditions. They were obviously aware of the popularity of BFRO organized expeditions, some of which have taken place in Northern Georgia in the past.

Initially they claimed to be very well equipped and experienced at organizing bigfoot expeditions, but they later admitted that they had never previously participated in one.

Click here to see one of their first YouTube videos ... before they claimed to have a dead body.

Their YouTube videos were so foolish that many wondered whether these videos were intended as a joke ... but they weren't. These guys wanted to be taken seriously, and they wanted people to pay them $499 to attend their expeditions in Georgia. But no one was interested, and no one signed up, and no expedition ever occurred. Their little scam was a flop.

We ignored it, knowing they would never be taken seriously. We assumed these clowns would quickly fade away.

A week later Whitton was shown on the local TV news stations around Atlanta ... He had shot himself in the wrist with his own weapon while pursuing a suspect. This strange clown Whitton was indeed a Clayton County Sheriff deputy.

Various legitimate bigfoot researchers in Georgia were appalled by the whole situation and challenged these two guys about their claims. It was offensive that a sheriff deputy would be involved in such a ludicrous fraud. One Georgia researcher pointed out that they didn't have any experience or any evidence of anything. He sarcastically asked Dyer by phone "So do you have corpse or something?"

That gave Dyer and idea. After that conversation these Georgia boys started claiming that they had a bigfoot body ...

Click here for the YouTube video where they first mentioned having a bigfoot body

As Whitton and Dyer touted their bogus "bigfoot body" story, they noticed that some people were quick to believe them, or at least hold out lots of hope. The hopeful reactions they received from a few people led them to change tactics all together. Their whole game changed from bogus claims of expeditions to bogus claims of having a "bigfoot body".

While recovering at home from his gunshot wound Whitton was visited by family members. One family member was his brother from Texas -- Martin Whitton. Matthew Whitton, the sheriff, coached his brother to pose as a scientist from Texas who came to Georgia to examine the "body".

Click here for the YouTube video where Whitton introduces the phony scientist

Within a day or so of releasing that video "Dr. Paul Van Burren" was outed as Whitton's own brother. Matt Whitton was forced to admit, on YouTube, that he lied about the "scientist" but he continued with his bogus claim about having a "bigfoot corpse".

Click here for the YouTube video where Whitton admits lying about the "scientist".

A week or so after Whitton was mentioned in the local news because of his gunshot injury, various small newspapers around Georgia caught wind of "," and Whitton's claims of having a bigfoot body. A few articles appeared in small papers in Georgia.

The local media attention about their "bigfoot body" claims attracted the attention of the notorious con-man and charlatan Carmine Thomas Biscardi. Biscardi has a habit of chasing the media spotlight in the style of Reverend Al Sharpton when a bigfoot-related story starts grabbing headlines.

Media publicity had eluded Biscardi in recent years, after his bogus claims stopped getting him easy press attention. He had stooped to hiring PR writers to write glorifying stories about him, then directing those writers to pose as freelance journalists and submit those stories to newspapers.

Biscardi had previously perpetrated a bigfoot body hoax in 2005 on George Noory's "Coast to Coast AM" ("C2C") radio talk show.

C2C is broadcast in the middle of the night across the US and Canada. It has an audience of roughly 15 million people. Many, many people who work the graveyard shift of lonely jobs will listen to George Noory's nightly AM radio talk show concerning all things paranormal.

During this extraordinary radio hoax in the summer of 2005 Biscardi claimed to have a bigfoot body. He held the massive C2C radio audience in breathless suspense for a few nights, offering updates on "his team's" progress with a bigfoot body, all while encouraging the audience to subscribe (for $14.95 per month) to his remote web cam, where they might possibly spot another bigfoot at a location in Northern California ...

In other words, it was a scam.

Talk show host George Noory eventually smelled the hoax and demanded that Biscardi show his evidence or come clean.

Then Biscardi confessed, on the radio. There was no bigfoot body. His excuses and finger pointing fell on deaf ears. Noory was fuming. He demanded that Biscardi refund all the money to all the people who signed up for the pay-per-view "surveillance" project.

This radio hoax, and Biscardi's subsequent confession, were heard by millions of people across North America. The affair had curious parallels with Orson Wells' "Invasion from Mars" radio play in 1938, which held radio audiences in suspense and created a minor panic in New Jersey.

Orson Wells' unintentional hoax made him even more of a celebrity.

Roll forward to August 2008.

Once Biscardi got involved in the recent Georgia body hoax, he bumped it up to a new level of media deception. Biscardi began scheming to get lots of TV cameras in his face before it would become glaringly obvious that it was just another bigfoot body hoax like the one Biscardi pulled before on the radio in 2005.

Biscardi's big hook for the media was that Whitton is a sheriff deputy. The media had no idea that Whitton was a ludicrous liar. They would assume he was legit simply because he is a law enforcement officer.

An important lesson to be drawn from this caper: Certain Hollywood-ish stereotypes are often true and accurate. For example, sleazy guido con-artists from Las Vegas love to work with corrupt cops whenever they can. And corrupt cops are usually willing and eager to work with Las Vegas con-men.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 16, 2008, 03:34:17 am
As expected, they didn't show the "body," and as expected they said, again, the world will have to "wait and see" ... All the while Biscardi can do some deals to put some money in his pocket, from publishers, producers, etc., (and share it with the Georgia boys) before it is obvious to everyone that it was just another Biscardi hoax.

The only scientist involved with them (Curt Nelson) simply received a "DNA sample" in the mail. Three results so far from that sample: 1) unknown, 2) human, and 3) possum. Nelso will do more tests, but he has said his tests don't mean anything.

Biscardi claims that other scientists will be doing more studies on the body, which will make a nice excuse to string the media along for a few more weeks.

The media will see that no "scientists" from any respectable institution will be allowed to examine the body ... They might be given more dubious "DNA samples" and fake photos, but the body itself will never be revealed, because it is just a costume.

The most important part of the press conference, from our perspective, was the growing pile of contradictions in their story. Whitton actually said they had no interest in bigfoots, and were not looking for one, before they "stumbled upon" the body. That's in very sharp contrast to what he claimed on his YouTube videos, where he said he has dreamed about being a bigfoot researcher since he was kid. These two clowns were trying to promote a bigfoot expedition business several weeks before they started spouting claims about having a body.

Whitton also said, during the press conference, that he "didn't notice any wounds on the carcass" and didn't know how it died -- another statement that is in direct contradiction to what he claimed in their early YouTube videos ... videos which were thankfully preserved by friends of the BFRO before Whitton and Dyer tried to remove them from YouTube.

To see these videos, which clearly demonstrate how willing these boys are to spin very big yarns, look for the YouTUbe links in the first post of the thread on the blue form linked above -- the forum with more details on the background of this hoax.

Biscardi is a professional liar from Las Vegas, and he found himself a corrupt cop who was willing to lie along with him in order to pull off a big media hoax/scam. The three of them are confident that they cannot be prosecuted for this hoax, but they may be in for a surprise.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Seer of Dark Things on August 17, 2008, 04:13:02 am
Georgia men claim hairy, frozen corpse is Bigfoot
By MALIA WOLLAN, Associated Press Writer
Fri Aug 15, 7:44 PM ET

PALO ALTO, Calif. - Bigfoot or big fat lie? Whenever someone reports sighting the hairy beast of yore (details always fuzzy) or capturing the hirsute humanoid on film (images always grainy), it scares up a dubious debate of international proportions. Friday was just the latest episode in the Sasquatch show, as unreal as it may be.

Two men who claim to have stumbled across a Bigfoot corpse in the woods of northern Georgia indignantly stood by their story at a news conference in Palo Alto during which they offered an e-mail from a scientist as evidence and acknowledged they wouldn't mind making a few bucks from the "find" they have kept stuffed in a freezer for over a month.

"Everyone who has talked down to us is going to eat their words," predicted Matt Whitton, an officer on medical leave from the Clayton County Police Department.

Whitton and Rick Dyer, a former corrections officer, announced the discovery in early July on YouTube videos and their Web site. Although they did not consider themselves devoted Bigfoot trackers before then, they have since started offering weekend search expeditions in Georgia for $499. The specimen they bagged, the men say, was one of several apelike creatures they spotted cavorting in the woods.

As they faced a skeptical audience of several hundred journalists and Bigfoot fans that included one curiosity seeker in a Chewbacca suit, the pair were joined Friday by Tom Biscardi, head of a group called Searching for Bigfoot. Other Bigfoot hunters call Biscardi a huckster looking for media attention.

Biscardi fielded most of the questions. Among them: Why should anyone accept the men's tale when they weren't willing to display their frozen artifact or pinpoint where they allegedly found it? How come bushwhackers aren't constantly tripping over primate remains if there are as many as 7,000 Bigfoots roaming the United States, as Biscardi claimed?

"I understand where you are coming from, but how many real Bigfoot researchers are out there trekking 140,000 miles a year?" Biscardi said.

Biscardi, Whitton and Dyer presented what they called evidence supporting the Bigfoot theory. It was an e-mail from a University of Minnesota scientist, but all it said was that of the three DNA samples sent to the scientist, one was human, one was likely a possum and the third could not be tested because of technical problems.

At least one other Bigfoot researcher, Idaho State University anthropologist Jeffrey Meldrum, called the trio's claims "not compelling in the least." He told the Scientific American that photographs posted on the Web site "just looks like a costume with some fake guts thrown on top for effect."

Whitton and Dyer have offered three different accounts of how they found the beast's remains.

In early videos, the animal was shot by a former felon, and the men followed it into the woods. In a second version, they found a "family of Bigfoot" in the north Georgia mountains. In the third, the two were hiking and stumbled upon the corpse with open wounds.

In one of their YouTube videos, they are shown speaking with a man they identify as a scientist. Earlier this week, they admitted that the man was Dyer's brother. Dyer said they were simply having fun.

Asked why anyone should believe his claims when he already had shown a flair for tomfoolery, he suggested that skeptics simply are jealous.

"They don't have a choice to believe us. We have a body," Dyer said.


Associated Press writer Juanita Cousins in Atlanta contributed to this report.


On the Net:

Bigfoot Tracker:

Big Foot Field Researchers Organization:

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Seer of Dark Things on August 17, 2008, 04:19:26 am

This still frame image from video provided by Bigfoot Global LLC, shows what is claimed by them to be a bigfoot or sasquatch creature in an undisclosed area of a northern Georgia forest in June 2008.
(AP Photo/Bigfoot Global LLC)

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Seer of Dark Things on August 17, 2008, 04:23:07 am

Hunter Tom Biscardi, center, is swamped by members of the media as he disperses photos of what he claims to be both a deceased and a living bigfoot or sasquatch creature during a media conference Friday, Aug. 15, 2008, in Palo Alto, Calif.
(AP Photo/Ben Margot)

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: Seer of Dark Things on August 17, 2008, 04:24:08 am
Drat!  I was hoping we actually had proof of a real one, but this looks like more attempts to make a cheap buck.

Title: Re: Body proves Bigfoot no myth, hunters say (Pictures!)
Post by: I Want to Believe on August 23, 2008, 12:07:28 am
It just goes to show it helps to be guardedly optimistic about stuff like this when it comes up.