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Calvin Noble
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« on: February 18, 2008, 08:43:29 pm »

Biblical Distortions in The Urantia Book

The Urantia book is a momentous work consisting of 2,097 pages of material received from numerous celestial beings supposedly brought to the earth by superhuman, divine beings in 1934. It was brought to earth by the “Orvonton administrators” (p. 354), and the “...Nebadon commission of twelve acting under the direction of Mantutia Melchizedek,” (p. 1319). Its claim is that it is the “finest major divine revelation since the coming of Christ to our planet.” However I have a very different view; as it is a momentous false revelation of mans spiritual heritage, spiritual figment of imagination that uses the Bible to promote its own teachings.

The name of any person who received the content of the book has never been revealed, and all are now deceased. The means by which the papers were materialized was unique and is unknown to any living person. The Founder is a noted Chicago physician and psychiatrist Dr. Bill Sadler. The Urantia Book was delivered to him by seven spirit beings in 1934. Between 1934 and 1956 a group of 36 people, who called themselves the Forum, met to study the original manuscripts of the Urantia Book. They incorporated in 1950 as the Urantia Foundation and the book was first published on October 12 1955. In 1996, the Foundation required the Brotherhood to stop using its name; they changed it to the Fifth Epochal Fellowship. The Foundation relented in 1999, and the Fellowship then changed its name to the Urantia Fellowship.

Herein lies the first contradictory teaching to the Bible which warns of Spiritism (Deut.18:10-12), mediums and other such means in receiving spiritual instruction. Unbeknownst to Sadler who engaged in conversations with his “spirit visitors” on a regular basis, he was trafficking in the occult.
Lev. 19:31 “Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits”
Lev. 20:6 “And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people.” Punishment in Israel was severe Lev. 20:27 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, was to be put to death so they would not defile the people. King Saul when he no longer was hearing from God sought out a medium to communicate.
The Bible explains that the Holy Spirit through its authors have given us God's word for all time. It is complete (2 Tim.3:16-17) and perfect. The apostle warns of anyone giving any other gospel that counters the Bible Gal.1:8-10 (which the Urantia book does, all one has to do is ask if they agree with all it precepts and teachings and will be given a definite NO.)

The purported superhuman authorship of the book is the basis upon which it claims to reveal data that would be inaccessible to mortal man. The purpose of the book is claimed to be a clarification of man's “divine and eternal destiny.”(Basic Concepts, p.1). It asserts it was received through spirit dictation and preaches universality of all religions. It’s concern is with “the spiritual regeneration and evolutionary advancement of mankind through Truths “unencumbered by tradition and dogma” are revealed about Jesus' life, teachings, death and resurrection.(The Urantia Book brochure Urantia Foundation, 1955). Just as animals evolved into humans, humans destined to evolve into spirit beings, called finaliters.

They believe it is like other sacred texts yet superior, the contents of the book are to be evaluated by the “fruits of the spirit” which they produce. In this way there is no authoritative truth but only measured by it subjective effect on an individual.

The book consists of deep and profound philosophical ramblings and shrewd conglomerations of Bible stories and history, as well as other religions. It certainly has the air of being given by a higher intelligence, one that is able to manipulate words and concepts far beyond any human being. At first when reading it (Depending on which portion), it seems biblical and even possible as it proposes new information about God. Much like the book of Mormon it offers more knowledge on Jesus, the destiny of man, our relationship to God and our planet and the universes history.

It is very deceptive as it is shrouded in both biblical and esoteric language and for the ungrounded in truth it can be an false influence. (The only book that is comparable is the channeled book the Course of Miracles. However it is an infant compared to this book). Its purpose is to challenge and distort the Bible as it constantly changes events and persons to be something else. Using the premise and principles and even biblical language these being(s) manipulate the Scripture to a whole new system that only the intelligencia is able to come near to comprehend. When I say near, I mean that even the short sentences are soaked with a plethora of complex spiritual mumbo jumbo that seems to first make sense but its context still eludes you. Of course I can be dismissed as a spiritual infant unable to understand its meaning, yet this is my position and reading the quotes you will see what I mean.

The book is divided into four main sections. Part I describes the central and super universe God as Father, Universal Spirit and Trinity, and various spirit entities. Part 2 deals with our local universe, Nebadon, whose capital is Salvington and has 10 million inhabited worlds. The book tells of the origin and evolution of the central and super-universes, our local universe and the history of our planet Urantia; located in super universe Orvonton, whose capital is Uversa. Part 3 is a history of Urantia, which is the name by which the earth is known to the other beings. Part IV contains a biography of Jesus (Seven hundred pages) including a detailed discussion of the hidden years (from age twelve to the beginning of his public ministry). The Foundation claims this account of Christ's life and teachings is “much more complete than that of -the New Testament, but not contradictory” (Basic Concepts, p. 30). This information is said to be supplied by “a sort of guardian angel of the Apostle Andrew- (ibid.).

According to The Urantia Book, Jesus was born August 21, 7 B.C., had an excellent education, became a skilled carpenter, began a Mediterranean tour in his twenty-eighth year and began his public ministry in 27 A.D. After more than three years, his ministry ended in the crucifixion and resurrection.

The Urantia Book teaches that these beings were created by a God who wished to share the joy and adventure of being to the furthest extent possible. This God dwells in the Isle of Paradise located in the center of the universe of universes.

There is evolution taking place in the many universes involving both matter and personalities. These personalities exist on millions of planets and spheres.

The universe depicted in the Urantia Book has seven levels. The first level, the Isle of Paradise, is the center of the universe around which the other levels form six concentric ellipses. (p.129)

The book gives dates and times that clearly try to give validity to its accuracy of the message contained in its 2,097 pages. I would suggest that any extensive reading should be done with a bottle of aspirin close at hand.

“987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307 of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly segment of Orvonton.” “875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated.” If this sounds like a science fiction movie (star wars perhaps) you may be right.

Next to Havona is the Grand Universe which includes seven Superuniverses, each containing 700,000 local universes. Those Superuniverses revolve around Havona. A local universe called Nebadon lies on the outer edge of the Superuniverse named Orvonton. The planet Urantia, known to us as “earth,” revolves within Nebadon.

From here there is a countdown of various years and stages for the creation of the universe and the earth. “1,000,000,000 years ago is the date of the actual beginning of Urantia history. The planet had attained approximately its present size. And about this time it was placed upon the physical registries of Nebadon and given its name, Urantia.”

“It was at about this time that Urantia was assigned to the system of Satania for planetary administration and was placed on the life registry of Norlatiadek.” This all reminds me of much of the new age and its word assimilation’s or scrambling. Such as Sanat Kumura- notice the same Satania both having the word Satan in it. Is it coincidence or possibly a fingerprint that he is involved?

“900,000,000 years ago witnessed the arrival on Urantia of the first Satania scouting party sent out from Jerusem to examine the planet and make a report on its adaptation for a life-experiment station. This commission consisted of twenty-four members, embracing Life Carriers, Lanonandek Sons, Melchizedeks, seraphim, and other orders of celestial life having to do with the early days of planetary organization and administration.” Notice again a word similar to Jerusalem, the concept of twenty-four (elders) Melchizedek(s) (plural) Seraphim which are all biblical terms persons and beings. What they are proposing is a start of life in this sector of the Galaxy. If someone made a sci-fi picture out of this it would probably do well.

Earth has a long history “The second Eden was the cradle of civilization for almost thirty thousand years. (35,000B.C.)

“These ideas of monotheism matured all over the world not long after the appearance of Machiventa Melchizedek at Salem in Palestine.” this was one of the purposes of Melchizedek's incarnation: That a religion of one God should be so fostered as to prepare the way for the earth bestowal of a Son of that one God. Michael could hardly come to Urantia until there existed a people believing in the Universal Father among whom he could appear.” Again biblical terms but the story is changed. Notice michael is the son of God, something that cults believed especially in the 1800’s.

They have many deities- Supreme Beings, Ascending Beings, Sons of God, and sub divine beings ad infinitum. Within each Order there may be anywhere from a few thousand to many millions of beings (The Urantia Book, pp. 330-344). The Urantia Book speaks of a Trinity of Trinities, three sets of three deities. One Trinity is existential (actual and without origin), and the other two are experiential (potential and with origin). The existential Trinity is called the Paradise Trinity and consists of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. The Universal Father is considered creator, controller and upholder of all things. He started the whole process of evolution because he “willed not to be self-contained.” (The Paradise Trinity is supreme, consisting of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit.) “ The two experiential Trinities are called the Ultimate Trinity and the Absolute Trinity. Both Trinities are finite, derived and evolving. At some point in the eternal future those two Trinities, when actualized, will complement the personalities of the Paradise Trinity ( p. 13.)

Celestial designations are given describing spiritual positions and places such as Salvington, Divington, Nebadon.

DIVININGTON. “This world is, in a unique sense, the “bosom of the Father,” the personal-communion sphere of the Universal Father, and thereon is a special manifestation of his divinity. Divinington is the Paradise rendezvous of the Thought Adjusters, but it is also the home of numerous other entities, personalities, and other beings taking origin in the Universal Father. Many personalities besides the Eternal Son are of direct origin by the solitary acts of the Universal Father.”(p.144)

The book teaches that the eternal Father-Creator created the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, and yet it claims they exist eternally. Their theology is similar to the Gnostic cults, “Proceeding from this creation, he “down stepped himself further in the creation of many additional divine personalities, less than absolute, more and more nearly approaching the finite” (Basic Concepts, p, 2).

Each local universe was formed and is ruled by a Creator Son. The Universal Father, in conjunction with the Eternal Son, brought into, existence those “only-begotten” Creator Sons. Although they are all unique, they all embody the characteristics of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. They are all part of the Order of Michael. (pp. 224-.234)

“When a Son of the Eternal Son appeared on Urantia, those who fraternized with this divine being in human form alluded to him as “He who was from the beginning, whom we have heard, whom we have seen with our eyes, whom we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, even the Word of life” (p.74.)

“On your world, but not in your system of inhabited spheres, this Original Son has been confused with a co-ordinate Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon (Jesus of Nazareth), who bestowed himself upon the mortal races of Urantia” (Ibid)

The Only Begotten Son of God, in the URANTIA book is a mute subject. They present a different Jesus from the Bible, though they may quote the Bible He is not the same Jesus as the Bible’s. Prior to His Earthly life, Jesus' real name was Michael of Nebadon. Jesus perfected his divinity by seven incarnations among various creatures of the Universe. His seventh incarnation on Urantia as Michael of Nebadon (p. 1323) “Our Creator Son (another Order of beings) is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.

“The Michael of Nebadon is the `only-begotten Son' personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity,” (p.366 ). Jesus (Michael) is the Son of the Son of God and the Father in the sense that when these two beings had a simultaneous original thought for the 611,121st time, Jesus (Michael) was begotten.”

Jesus (they refer to him by his real name Joshua ben Joseph) is the 7th incarnation of Michael of Nebadon, the 611,121st Creator Son of God. He is attributed to be the creator of this sector (local) of the Universe “It was scarcely a million years subsequent to this epoch that Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son of Paradise, selected this disintegrating nebula as the site of his adventure in universe building.” So begins the story of Urantia.

The book of Urantia teaches of the hidden years of Christ, from age twelve to his public ministry. It asserts to show the “religion of Jesus,” not the “religion about Jesus.” The Urantia Book’s Christ is only one of the divine sons of God who incarnated himself on Urantia. His purpose was to help us mortals realize that we too are sons of God. He is the wayshower, he is the creator of our local universe, and his incarnation on Urantia was the seventh time he had come to live among creatures of his universe.

All descending Sons of God have high and divine origins (p. 223.)

Of the numerous orders of descending Sons, seven will be depicted in these narratives. Those Sons who come forth from the Deities on the central Isle of Light and Life are called the Paradise Sons of God and embrace the following three orders: 1) Creator Sons--the Michaels; 2) Magisterial Sons--the Avonals; and 3) Trinity Teacher Sons--the Daynals. (p. 223.)

As they function in the superuniverse of Orvonton, the Sons of God are classified under three general heads: 1) the descending Sons of God; 2) the ascending Sons of God; and the trinitized Sons of God. (ibid.)

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 08:43:58 pm »

All Religion is corrupted

“Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that primitive man was a mythmaker. “

They claim we are in confusion on planet earth (Urantia) because the religions presented by various communications as coming from God himself when they came from various orders of celestial beings. “Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.”

We continue to “suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God.” The gods who “shake the earth in their wrath” and “ inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood” “are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the Gods who live and rule the universes.”(p.60)

While the Urantia book claims to give an accurate account of Christ it challenges the Bibles record as well as Jesus’ own words as true. Keep in mind that they claim all the religious books are corrupted, lest it become to obvious that it is an attack on the Bibles authority only. But this is exactly what we find interlaced throughout its pages. The Urantia Book says that, although “Christianity does contain more of the Master's gospel than any other religion,” it made “two great mistakes”: 1 ) . . . the teaching that Jesus was the sacrificed Son who would satisfy the Father's stem justice and appease the divine wrath (and)2 ) organize the Christian teaching so completely about the person of Jesus.

We are told Christ toured the Roman Empire with two people from India in the years preceding his ministry. Jesus has six instead of the Bibles three years of ministry. His life ended by crucifixion, the cross being unnecessary since: “ The Father in Paradise did not decree, demand, or require the death of his Son. All of this was man's doing; not God's” (p. 2002).

It is these two points the attack is focused on Person and the work of Christ. The New Testament affirms is essential to salvation without it there is no Christianity. The source of the book is well aware of Bibles teaching and does not stop to distort or belittle it. They teach Adam and Eve did not “fall into sin,” that people today do not suffer from original sin, and do not need to be redeemed by the blood of Christ.

The substitutionary atonement are viewed in the revelation of the Urantia book as grotesque invented by primitive men.

“Primitive man believed that something special must be done to win the favor of the gods; only advanced civilization recognizes a consistently even-tempered and benevolent God” (p.974)

“Appeasing an angry God,” “ through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood,” is barbarous and a primitive, religion “ unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth.” “Jesus did not come to Urantia to placate a God of wrath, nor to offer himself as a ransom by dying on the cross. The cross was wholly man's doing, not God's requirement- (Basic concepts, P. 3). This is the same concept promoted by Benjamen Crème a New Ager who thinks of the Christian religion as worthless having a blood sacrifice. The Bible teaches that the blood of Christ, shed on the cross, is God’s only means to be made right and receive forgiveness from God. (Romans 5:9, Ephesians 1:7, Hebrews 9:22.)

“The bestowal of a Paradise Son on your world was inherent in the situation of closing a planetary age; it was inescapable, and it was not made necessary for the purpose of winning the favor of God.” “This teaching that his fatherly heart in all its austere coldness and hardness was so untouched by the misfortunes and sorrows of his creatures that his tender mercies were not forthcoming until he saw his blameless Son bleeding and dying upon the cross of Calvary! (p. 60.5)

They misrepresent the Bible as they teach “The Hebrews believed that “without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin.” They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices.”

The Hebrews never sacrificed humans but animals and it was given as an order from God to show the significance of what sin does. Speaking of Moses Heb. 11:28 “By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood.” The sacrifices were not pagan at all but a command from God from the time Of Adam when had slain the first animal.(Gen.3:24; 4:2-7)

“Upon the death of Moses his lofty concept of Yahweh rapidly deteriorated. Joshua and the leaders of Israel continued to harbor the Mosaic traditions of the all-wise, beneficent, and almighty God, but the common people rapidly reverted to the older desert idea of Yahweh. And this backward drift of the concept of Deity continued increasingly under the successive rule of the various tribal sheiks, the so-called Judges.”(p.1059:2,96:61)

The whole Christian religion is repudiated in one sentence: “The cardinal religious ideas of - inspiration, revelation, propitiation, repentance, atonement, intercession, sacrifice, prayer, confession, worship, survival after death, sacrament, ritual, ransom, salvation, redemption, covenant, uncleaness, Purification, prophesy, original sin they all go back to the early times of primordial ghost fear.” (p.1005) The bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is denied. “His material or physical body was not part of the resurrected personality. . . the body of flesh m which he lived . . . was still lying there in the sepulchre.” p. 2021, 2023, 2024 - 1313. )

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 08:44:26 pm »

The underlying message

Their goal and message is to unify all religions and have them abandon their particular teachings for another spiritual unity. “We believe in every church and in all forms of worship,” (URANTIA Brotherhood Bulletin, Vol. 6, No. 1, p. 4). With this attitude in mind, and in their own peculiar way, they hope to unite “...all world religions and all world religionists,” (Bulletin, Supplement, p. 1). All world religions “are of value in that they are valid approaches to the religion of Jesus.”(p. 67) This of course relegates the Bibles revelation to no more or less than any other book which they claim is corrupted. They claim to welcome Christians into their membership but it is only to unite with others, “The teachers of the religion of Jesus should approach other religions with the recognition of the truths which are held in common (many of which come directly or indirectly, from Jesus' message) while they refrain from placing so much emphasis on the differences.” (p.1670-71) In fact the spirituality that is promoted has the same goals as Bahai, unity of all religions. “The Fatherhood of God and the universal brotherhood of all men” (p. 1085)

They challenge of the Bibles claim we are sinners “Ancient man only attained consciousness of favor with God through sacrifice. Modern man must develop new techniques of achieving the self-consciousness of salvation. The consciousness of sin persists in the mortal mind, but the thought patterns of salvation therefrom have become outworn and antiquated.” “The sense or feeling of guilt is the consciousness of the violation of the mores; it is not necessarily sin. There is no real sin in the absence of conscious disloyalty to Deity.” The bible says that we sin when we transgress the standard of God, his commands knowingly or not. That it is inherent in our nature. The Urantia Book challenges this. “But confession -- sincere recognition of the nature of sin -- is essential to religious growth and spiritual progress.”

“The forgiveness of sin by Deity is the renewal of loyalty relations following a period of the human consciousness of the lapse of such relations as the consequence of conscious rebellion. The forgiveness does not have to be sought, only received as the consciousness of re-establishment of loyalty relations between the creature and the Creator.” (p.985:1) 89:10.6 Could anyone who is not in further education understand this? In this way much of what is said seems heavy

“Many races have conceived of their leaders as being born of virgins… their return is always expected by their respective groups. In central Asia the tribesmen still look for the return of Genghis Khan; in Tibet, China, and India it is Buddha; in Islam it is Mohammed; among the Amerinds it was Hesunanin Onamonalonton; with the Hebrews it was, in general, Adam's return as a material ruler. …Following the appearance of Adam on earth, so-called sons of God were common among the world races.” (p.1008:5,92:5.3 )

There is no such tradition I have ever heard of where Adam would reappear.

The book lures people into believing that it is revealing secret knowledge for the initiative of this gnosis “The secrets of Sonarington include the secret of the incarnation of the divine Sons. When a Son of God becomes a Son of Man, is literally born of woman, as occurred on your world nineteen hundred years ago, it is a universal mystery. It is occurring right along throughout the universes, and it is a Sonarington secret of divine sonship. The Adjusters are a mystery of God the Father. The incarnation of the divine Sons is a mystery of God the Son; it is a secret locked up in the seventh sector of Sonarington, a realm penetrated by none save those who have personally passed through this unique experience.”(p.145) They teach this act of virgin birth is repeated in the universe in many different times. Again it attacks the unique Son of God.

The Bibles message of Jesus as the unique Son of God is challenged, as are the authors.

The Gospel of John “ John did not write it, he did inspire it.”(p.1342:5, 121:8.10)[In the year A.D. 101 he encouraged his associate, Nathan, a Greek Jew from Caesarea, to begin the writing.] This goes against the Scripture where it says they did, making them a liar.

John 20:31 “but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.”

John speaking of himself says in John 21:24 “This is the disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his testimony is true.”

All things considered one has to deal with the clear words written from John Himself.

I Jn 1:1-4 “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life--the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us--that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. And these things we write to you that your joy may be full.”

I Jn 2:7 “Brethren, I write no new commandment to you,


I Jn 2:21 “I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.” One must make a choice if what the Urantia book says is true or the Bible is true

I Jn 2:26These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.” These words of John need to be heeded by those who believe the Urantias books message.

I Jn 5:13 “These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

John is told by Jesus personally in Rev 1:19 “Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this”

Paul writes in Gal 6:11 “See with what large letters I have written to you with my own hand!”

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 08:44:53 pm »

Some other challenges of the Bibles record

The seraphim of Urantia, … did sing anthems of glory over the Bethlehem manger, but these utterances of praise were not heard by human ears. No shepherds nor any other mortal creatures came to pay homage to the babe of Bethlehem until the day of the arrival of certain priests from Ur, who were sent down from Jerusalem by Zacharias.”(1352:1,122:8.5)

This goes against the Scriptures teaching that the shepherds did hear the angels in the field and consequently visited the babe in the manger. Zacharias who was John the baptizers father certainly did not have contact with UR.

The Bible has this to say--Luke 2:13-146 “And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, goodwill toward men!” So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.” And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger.

The challenge of the Scripture is consistently seen throughout this book.

“Jesus led men to feel at home in the world; 'he delivered theirs from the slavery of taboo and taught there that the world was not fundamentally evil. He did not long `to escape from his `earthly life; he mastered a technique of acceptably doing the Father's will while in the flesh. He attained an idealistic religious life in the Very midst of a realistic world: Jesus did not share Paul's pessimistic view of humankind. The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificient and eternal future' for those who chose survival.”(196:2.11)

Jesus did indeed see the world as fallen, sinful, wicked John 1:4-5 “In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

John 8:12Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." John 12:46 “I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.”

Jesus told his disciples to be in the world but not of it. That they were passing through to be with him later on and not to love the world. “Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him”( I Jn. 2:15)

John 15:19”If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

John 17:15-16 “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. “They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.”

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 08:45:19 pm »

Other Bible distortions

Jesus adopted the term “Son of Man” at age fifteen after reading a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch (p. 1390).

During his twenty-eighth and twenty-ninth years on Earth, Jesus toured the Roman world, accompanied by two natives from India (p. 1427). This implies as other books that he may have been familiar with the eastern concept of reincarnation and other teachings and that he did not teach Judaism.

In regards to Paul's (“pessimistic view of humankind”) doctrine regarding atonement which meant that we are sinners in need of forgiveness through the cross they say “ unnecessarily encumbered Christianity with teachings about blood and sacrifice. . .” (p. 984).

Heb.9:22 “And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission. Rom 5:9 “having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.”

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 08:45:51 pm »

Human Potentiality as God

“The adventure of divinity attainment lies before you! The race for perfection is on! Whosoever will may enter, and certain victory will crown the efforts of every human being who will run the race of faith and trust, depending every step of the way on the leading of the indwelling Adjuster and on the guidance of the good spirit of the Universal Son, which so freely has been poured out upon all flesh.” [The Urantia Book, 365.4] This is not the faith delivered to the saints by the bible but then they do not take this position. As we can see they use biblical terms and phrases to make it a competitor for the truth.

“John asked Jesus, `Master, what is the kingdom of heaven?' And Jesus answered: `The kingdom of heaven consists in these three essentials: first, recognition of the fact of the sovereignty of God; second, belief in the truth of sonship with God; and third, faith in the effectiveness of the supreme human desire to do the will of God-to be like God. And this is the good news of the gospel: that by faith every mortal may- have all these essentials of salvation.”' (pp. 1585-86)

“ the living spirit relationship of all things and all beings as they are co-ordinated in the eternal ascent Godward.” This teaching according to the bible is the very same that had Lucifer rebel, wanting to be like God, a dream throughout all ages for mankind.(p.646:4,56:10.3)

“God...who dwells, by his spirit, in every sincere human soul”(p. 1453.)

“God is our Father because part of his divine spirit dwells within each one of US.”

“There dwells within you a fragment of the Universal Father, and you are thus directly related to the divine Father and all the Sons of God,” (p. 448). This is pantheism and is the pagan belief that they so readily reject in the book. Having a fragment of God's spirit dwells within each person is called a Thought Adjuster. That is to guide the individual towards greater spiritual understanding through many lives as they evolve on other worlds.

“To finite man truth, beauty, and goodness embrace the full revelation of divinity reality. As this love-comprehension of Deity finds spiritual expression in the lives of God-knowing mortals, there are yielded the fruits of divinity: intellectual peace, social progress, moral satisfaction, spiritual joy, and cosmic wisdom. The advanced mortals on a world in the seventh stage of light and life have learned that love is the greatest thing in the universe -- and they know that God is love.”(p.648:3,56:10.20)God is love is right out of the bible. Love is not the greatest thing in the universe, God is.

The human potential according to Urantia revelations: “The supreme beauty, the height of finite art, is the drama of the unification of the vastness of the cosmic extremes of Creator and creature. Man finding God and God finding man -- the creature becoming perfect as is the Creator -- that is the supernal achievement of the supremely beautiful, the attainment of the apex of cosmic art.”

God created some of these beings in an exalted state, while others he created in the lowest possible stage of existence, from which they evolved to the human stage, which is “evolved to the point when- it can be indwelt by a spark of eternal divinity “ (Basic Concepts, p. 2) Urantia Theology resembles the Hindu concept of transmigration where the soul is seen to pass from the lowest stages to humanity, then to godhood, it is the spiritual evolution of the New Age. After this life we pass on through millions of other spheres of training. The next one is the mansion worlds of Satania. All this life experience of both ascenders (mortals) and descenders is gradually bring synthesized and coordinated into an evolving, universal consciousness. a growing oversoul of all creation. Eventually to be personalized as the Supreme Bring.” (Basic Concepts)

In other words, as humanity- evolves, the first person of the Ultimate Trinity is actualized. Attaining the presence of the Universal Father and helping to actualize the Ultimate Trinity is the goal and the end of a person's spiritual journey. Hr/she has completed “the age-long process from animal to angel and from angel to spirit anti from spirit to God” (p.558 Basic Concepts). The early form of Gnosticism posited that a system of spirit beings emanate from God and exert authority over people's lives. Paul referred to those spirit brings as “powers and authorities” (Col. 1:16; 2:15)

“The only creation that is perfectly settled is Havona, the central universe, which was made directly by the thought of the Universal Father and the word of the Eternal Son. Havona is an existential, perfect, and replete universe, surrounding the home of the eternal Deities, the center of all things. The creations of the seven superuniverses are finite, evolutionary, and consistently progressive.” (p.360:3, 32:3.1)

PAPER 96 YAHWEH-GOD OF THE HEBREWS in conceiving of Deity, man first includes all gods, then subordinates all foreign gods to his tribal deity, and finally excludes all but the one God of final and supreme value. The Jews synthesized all gods into their more sublime concept of the Lord God of Israel.” The bible teaches the very opposite, that man began with the correct knowledge and left it for multiple gods(polytheism). (p.1052)

DIVININGTON. This world is, in a unique sense, the “bosom of the Father,” the personal-communion sphere of the Universal Father, and thereon is a special manifestation of his divinity. Divinington is the Paradise rendezvous of the Thought Adjusters, Many personalities besides the Eternal Son are of direct origin by the solitary acts of the Universal Father. Only the Father fragments and those personalities and other beings of direct and exclusive origin in the Universal Father fraternize and function on this abode.

Thought Adjusters are of the very essence and nature of God they are the “undiluted . . . parts of Deity” who guide humans on the path of spiritual progress through countless lifetimes on other planets, The Thought Adjusters are the bestowed spirit of the Universal Father. That indwelling spirit or fragment of God is called a Thought Adjuster. They are not created but proceed directly from the Father. Contact with the lowly creatures of the evolutionary worlds is a secret of this Paradise sphere.” “The Adjuster's would be if such a voice could be heard. Conscience.”

SONARINGTON. This sphere is the “bosom of the Son,” the personal receiving world of the Eternal Son. It is the Paradise headquarters of the descending and ascending Sons of God when, and after, they are fully accredited and finally approved. This world is the Paradise home for all Sons of the Eternal Son and of his co-ordinate and associate Sons.(p.145) This sounds like a spiritual school venture a classroom in space.

We need to ask how would God speak to humanity if he wanted to communicate with the average person on earth. Would it be beyond our means of understanding like the Urantia book is written or like the Bible is written.

The Urantia book is nothing less than new age gnostic enlightenment with a space age twist. It attracts the pride of man. It is deceptive in its approach by claiming to correct all religious books, as well as challenging God as the author and keeper of His truth found in the Bible. Paul preached the gospel “not with the wisdom of words, lest the cross be made of no effect.” (1Cor. 1:17) “The world through Wisdom did not come to know God.” (V.21) The Urantia’s revelation proposes in the place of the Bibles revelation extra-Biblical and contradictory information, opposing the core doctrines of Christianity.

Galatians 1:8, “but even though we, or an angel from heaven, would preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” This book and its authors are cursed according to the Bible. And those who follow its teachings are according to the apostle Paul. The real issue comes down to authority. One trusting a book whose authors are unknown who claim superior knowledge of past events changing the people and places to be what they want. Or do we trust the eyewitnesses and the authors of the accounts of Jesus with its accurate history kept by the Holy Spirit of God. Is it any wonder the Urantia book calls them holy spirit adjusters, since this other spirit wants to revision everything God has said. Reliability of Scripture is denied and challenged. (P. 838)

We know who was the challenger of the word God spoke in the beginning, the same one who has challenged God in this book. Time has not changed his ways.

Since the Urantia book presents a Jesus that is not the same as the Bible, it cannot be God inspired nor accurate on what it adds to the Bible.



Sources used: The Urantia Book and Basic Concepts of the Urantia Book; the Urantia Foundation's website is at:   “The Urantia Book,” 1979, Christian Research Institute Inc., Elliot Miller, “S.P.C. Newsletter,” vol. 7, no. 3, 8/81. The Encyclopedia of American Religions, Vol. 2, J. Gordon Melton, p. 590.


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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 08:47:27 pm »

Urantia Brotherhood
The year 1989 saw an end to the URANTIA Brotherhood and a beginning for the Fifth Epochal Fellowship. In a letter dated 9 November 1989 all members of the Brotherhood were notified that a shake-up at headquarters had taken place and things, including the name, had changed. While the group has a new name, its doctrines and purposes remain as they were "originally established," (p. 3).

Of all the cultic systems in all the world, none is more intricate than that of URANTIA! This organization has Orders of Trinity Beings, Supreme Beings, Ascending Beings, Sons of God, Universe Power Directors, Michael class (a very important group) and nearly ad infinitum. Within each Order there may be anywhere from a few thousand to many million beings (The URANTIA Book, pp. 330-344). Various sections of this 2,097 page book were sent to earth by the "Orvonton administrators" (p. 354), and the "...Nebadon commission of twelve acting under the direction of Mantutia Melchizedek," (p. 1319).

The doctrines are nearly as hard to understand as the source from whence they came. As with many groups which do not appreciate the thought of Jesus being the Only Begotten Son of God, URANTIA has an interesting solution to this problem. They teach, prior to His Earthly life, Jesus' real name was Michael of Nebadon. They state, "Our Creator Son (another Order of beings) is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.

"The Michael of Nebadon is the `only-begotten Son' personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity," (Ibid, p.366; parenthesis added). In other words, Jesus (Michael) is the Son of the Son of God and the Father in the sense that when these two beings had a simultaneous original thought for the 611,121st time, Jesus (Michael) was begotten.

The Brotherhood does have a similarity to other groups in that they teach, "There dwells within you a fragment of the Universal Father, and you are thus directly related to the divine Father and all the Sons of God," (Ibid, p. 448). However, unlike many other cults which teach they are the only true church, the URANTIA teach, "We believe in every church and in all forms of worship," (URANTIA Brotherhood Bulletin, Vol. 6, No. 1, p. 4). With this attitude in mind, and in their own peculiar way, they hope to unite "...all world religions and all world religionists," (Bulletin, Supplement, p. 1).
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History, Doctrine and a Biblical Response to the URANTIA BookBy Jason Barker
Founder: William S. Sadler.
Date: 1924.
Official Publications: The URANTIA Foundation holds the copyright on The URANTIA Book, and publishes the periodicals Newsflash and Urantian News. The URANTIA Book Fellowship publishes The Fellowship Herald Magazine and Mighty Messenger Newsletter. The Boulder School publishes The Invisible Fellowship Magazine.
Structure: Parent organization is the URANTIA Foundation. Break-offs from the Foundation include the URANTIA Book Fellowship and the Boulder Fellowship/Jesusonian Foundation.
Unique Terms: URANTIA, epochal revelation, revelators, Thought Adjuster, Isle of Paradise, morontia.

Dr. William Sadler a Seventh-day Adventist minister and associate of Ellen G. White, married Lena Celestia Kellogg (niece of cereal company founder, alternative medicine practitioner, and former Seventh-day Adventist J.H. Kellogg) in 1897.1 The Sadlers became increasingly disenchanted with the Seventh-day Adventists after critiquing White's testimonials and visions, culminating in William Sadler writing a letter to White in which he challenged her teachings.2
After receiving his M.D. from Adventist American Medical Missionary College, Sadler worked from 1907-1915 as a popular orator on medicine on the Chautauqua circuit.3 In 1911, Sadler had his first session with the "sleeping subject" described in his book, The Mind at Mischief; this "sleeping subject" is believed by many to be a description of the process through which the fifth epochal revelation was received.4 Sadler (along with a stenographer) transcribed the statements of the "sleeping subject" during their 209 sessions that occurred over eighteen years. According to Sadler,

The communications which have been written, or which we have had the opportunity to hear spoken, are made by a vast order of alleged beings who claim to come from other planets to visit this world, to stop here as student visitors for study and observation when they are en route from one universe to another or from one planet to another.5
These sessions became particularly important in 24, when the celestial being Machiventa Melchizedek announced that this method of communication between the celestial group of revelators from the Melchizedek schools and the to-be-formed human Contact Commission would continue to be used.6 The Contact Commission consisted of Dr. William S. Sadler, Dr. Lena Sadler, William S. Sadler, Jr., Anna Kellogg (sister of Lena), and Wilfred Kellogg.7
Sadler described the process of receiving and compiling the revelations in this way: the revelators, would leave a set of handwritten papers in a predetermined place. The Contact Commission would read the papers to "The Forum," a group of humans formed to study the papers, who would then draft questions based on the revelations. The revelators then drafted a second series of papers in response to these questions.

The process by which the papers were transcribed by the Contact Commission is highly unique. According to Meredith Sprunger, former president of the URANTIA Brotherhood,

Whenever the original papers were copied, the originals always disappeared. Ten dollar bills were placed between the sheets and they found the original papers would disappear but the bills would remain in the locked safe [The Contact Commission] discovered that after some papers were read and placed in the safe, they disappeared. Other papers were altered after being read to the Forum. The assumption is that they were required to read these papers to the Forum so that these spirit beings could observe human reaction to the material presented.9
Interestingly, while Sadler was later willing to discuss in detail the transmission of The URANTIA Book, he refused to reveal two crucial facts: 1) the name of the individual who was used by the revelators as the channel between the revelators and the Contact Commission, and 2) the specific way in which the papers that formed The URANTIA Book appeared.10
The first 118 papers of The URANTIA Book were completed in 1934; Part IV - the "Jesus Papers" - was completed in 1935.11 In 1939 a group of seventy volunteers, known as "the Seventy," began studying the URANTIA papers; their study was led by the revelators until the publication of The URANTIA Book in 1955, at which point the revelators discontinued their contact with the message "You are on your own now."12

The formation of the URANTIA Foundation, the central group affiliated with The URANTIA Books and the copyright holders of the publication, preceded the publication of the book by five years. Determined to avoid creating a church based upon The URANTIA Book, the Foundation instead created in 1955 a "fraternal organization" for URANTIA readers called the URANTIA Brotherhood.13

Dissemination of The URANTIA Book was rapid. 4,291 copies had been distributed by 1960, over 100,000 copies by 1980, and by 1996 over 30,000 copies were being distributed each year.14  The 1970s marked a period of remarkable growth for URANTIA. Several readers began reading excerpts from The URANTIA Book on southern California radio stations, and in 1972 the University of California, Bakersfield, offered the course, "An Introduction to The URANTIA Book."15 The URANTIA Foundation also successfully cornered the market on The URANTIA Book, copyrighting the words "URANTIA" in 1972 and "URANTIAN" in 1973, and signing confirmatory and licensing agreements in 1974.16

Despite URANTIA's success, this period of growth was also the beginning of schism within the movement. The URANTIA Foundation sued member Bob Burton in 1975 for giving URANTIA materials to all the members of Congress, and in 1976 pressured the URANTIA Brotherhood to sell their rights to URANTIA to the Foundation for one dollar.17 The schism reached its climax in 1990 when the URANTIA Foundation disenfranchised the URANTIA Brotherhood, sending a massive Special Report in April, 1990 to URANTIA readers explaining that the Foundation was forming a "new URANTIA Brotherhood Association -- one that will make the new Association less easily politicized and more likely to concentrate on its spiritual mission."18

The current situation within URANTIA circles is strained but improving. The URANTIA Foundation lost its copyright to The URANTIA Book in 1995; the book is now in the public domain. A threatened lawsuit by the Foundation against the URANTIA Brotherhood and the Jesusonian Foundation [a Boulder, Colorado-based URANTIA organization] was dropped in 1996. Finally, in 1997, the URANTIA Foundation and the URANTIA Brotherhood agreed to jointly engage in translation of The URANTIA Book into foreign languages.19

Cosmology: The cosmos are roughly divided into five concentric rings. The center ring is the Isle of Paradise, the dwelling place of God20 and the source of all existing things; the Master Universe revolves around this stationary Isle.21 Surrounding the Isle of Paradise in seven bands are the Havona, billions of perfect worlds that serve as the pattern for creation.22 Surrounding the Havona are dark gravity belts which insulate the Havona and Isle of Paradise from the developing superuniverses. Outside the gravity belts are the seven superuniverses of evolutionary creation; our superuniverse is approximately 500 million light-years in diameter.23 Beyond the superuniverses are four uninhabited outer space levels; some celestial beings speculate that an unrevealed creation may begin outside the fourth outer space level.24
The Trinity: The URANTIA Book speaks of a Trinity of Trinities; the most important is the existential Paradise Trinity consisting of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. The second Trinity, currently in the process of universe realization to become gods, is the experiential Ultimate Trinity; it will consist of the Supreme Being, the Supreme Creator Personalities, and the Architects of the Master Universe. The third Trinity, currently in the process of actualization, is the experiential Absolute Trinity: it will consist of God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and the "unrevealed Consummator of Universe Destiny."25

God the Father: The URANTIA Book teaches, "The Universal Father is the God of all creation, the First Source and the Center of all things and beings. First think of God as a creator, then as a controller, and lastly as an infinite upholder."26 The Universal Father is a personal being who should be understood as the father of humanity: "as a father, a real father, a true father, loves his children, so the Universal Father loves and forever seeks the welfare of his created sons and daughters."27 The ultimate aspiration of humans is to know and be like the Universal Father.

Jesus Christ: The Eternal Son, along with the Universal Father, created all the "only-begotten" Creator Sons who, as part of the Order of Michael, are responsible for the creation of humanity.28 Before incarnating on this planet as Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus was Michael of Nebadon, the 611,121st original concept of the Paradise Father and Son.29 Despite being the "original concept," Jesus was not the Eternal Son, but rather he possessed "additional power and authority, for he not only personifies the Eternal Son but also fully represents and actually embodies the personality presence of the Universal Father."30

Part IV of The URANTIA Book ostensibly covers, in addition to its elaboration of the gospel accounts, a record of the "lost years" of Jesus' life. Papers 123-28 go year-by-year through Jesus' childhood, even examining the events of each day he spent in the Temple at the age of twelve.31 It also explains that Jesus went to Rome as the tutor to the sons of a wealthy merchant from India.32

The URANTIA Book also fills in details about the resurrection. After the crucifixion, Jesus underwent "the Morontia Transit," in which the resurrected morontia form and personality of Jesus [i.e., the spirit of Jesus without the physical body] went forth from the tomb and met with Gabriel and other celestial administrators.33 His initiation into the morontia world [the next level of existence] normally takes about an hour, but was twice interrupted because Jesus wanted to explain to his followers what was happening.34
Sin and Atonement: An understanding of what The URANTIA Book teaches about sin is vital to understanding what it teaches about Christ and the Atonement.

According to the Jesus of The URANTIA Book, "Evil is the immature choosing and the thinking misstep of those who are resistant to goodness, rejectful of beauty, and disloyal to truth. Evil is that which is dark and untrue, and which, when consciously embraced and willfully endorsed, becomes sin."35 A person can overcome evil simply by choosing to do good: "There is mighty power in the expulsive energy of a new and sincere spiritual affection. And again I say to you, be not overcome by evil but rather overcome evil with good."36

Because avoiding sin is simply a matter of choice, the crucifixion did not accomplish the forgiveness of sin.37 Instead, humans must work to emulate the example of love and faith in God shown by Jesus. This striving for perfection is worked out over many lifetimes on many planets. A URANTIA follower states that "the entire stellar itinerary of our inconceivably long evolutionary journey toward spirit status [includes] graduate courses on the billion worlds of Havona. . .such is the long, alluring path to Paradise."38

Humans are not to accept a new gospel from spirit beings,39 but instead should rely on the Bible as the authoritative source of truth.40
Jesus is not merely an example of God, but rather is the one in whom the Godhead fully dwells.41

Humans will not be reincarnated many times, but instead live only once before facing judgment from God.42 Furthermore, salvation does not come through anything that humans can do, but instead is given only through the unmerited grace of God.43


1 David Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation: An Historical Timeline of the URANTIA Movement, [Online]. URL
2 Ibid.
3 Ibid.
4 William Sadler, The Mind at Mischief, edited by Mark Turin, n.p.: n.p., 1929 [Online]. URL
5 Ibid.
6 Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, URL c.f. The URANTIA Book 35:3:15.
7 Ibid.
8 Ibid.
9 Ibid.
10 Meredith J. Sprunger, The Origin of The URANTIA Book, Boulder, Co: The Jesusonian Foundation, 1981, 3.
11 Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, URL
12 Ibid.
13 William Sadler, A History of the URANTIA Movement, Chicago, Il: n.p., 1960 [Online]. URL
14 Kantor, The First Century of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, URL
15 Ibid.
16 Ibid.
17 Ibid.
18 Trustees of the URANTIA Foundation, letter to readers of The URANTIA Book, 16 April 1990.
19 Patricia Mundelius and Janet Farrington Graham, letter to readers of The URANTIA Book, 10 October 1997.
20 Ruth Burton, Basic Concepts of The URANTIA Book, Chicago, Il: The URANTIA Brotherhood, n.d., 1.
21 A Guided Tour of The URANTIA Book, Boulder, Co: The Invisible Fellowship Magazine, 1994, 7.
22 Ibid.
23 Ibid.
24 Ibid.
25 The URANTIA Book, Foreword, 16.
26 Ibid., 21:1.
27 Ibid., 40:1.
28 Dean Halverson, "Urantia.the Brotherhood, the Book," SCP Newsletter 7.3 (1981), 3.
29 The URANTIA Book, 33:1.
30 Ibid.
31 Ibid., 125:3-6.
32 Ibid., 129-133.
33 Ibid., 189:1.
34 Ibid.
35 Ibid., 130:1.
36 Ibid., 156:5.
37 Ibid., 188:4.
38 Burton, Basic Concepts of The URANTIA Book, 2.
39 Galatians 1:8.
40 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Acts 17:11.
41 Colossians 2:9.
42 Hebrews 9:27.
43 Romans 3:28.

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 12:37:57 am »

Some more of the same stuff that cannot be substantiated as it is only words and no evidence.

Continuing in the Dalamatia City project.,7222.msg65926.html#msg65926

After we verify Dalamatia City and the Seven commands

Then we can go to 1stEden and and scan and verify the manmade anomalies on top and at the base of the Acropolis Hill and verify the 3 co planar circles on top of the hill.

If we verify the 3 co planar circles on the Acropolis Hill then we can match the 1st and 2nd temples of the Father by the 3 co planar symbols.

TRUTH and SYMBOL that become one!

That would be the match.

Why, we have already verified the stone wall in 1stEden stated in the Urantia Book.

Then after that we go to Iran and connect the 3 co planar circles in North Eastern Iran the home of the Adamson/Van headquarters.

Continuing on with the proposal for the real truth of everything beyond one book.,7220.msg65928.html#msg65928


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An apology from me

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 03:53:47 am »

A dissemination of Rodan of Alexandria 2000 years ago and relevant for today.  Have we progressed really in light of this opinion from Rodan 2000 years ago, something for us to consider within ourselves in what we do each day and to others?? in there own distortions.


You have told me that your Master regards genuine human religion as the individual's experience with spiritual realities. I have regarded religion as man's experience of reacting to something which he regards as being worthy of the homage and devotion of all mankind. In this sense, religion symbolizes our supreme devotion to that which represents our highest concept of the ideals of reality and the farthest reach of our minds toward eternal possibilities of spiritual attainment.

When men react to religion in the tribal, national, or racial sense, it is because they look upon those without their group as not being truly human. We always look upon the object of our religious loyalty as being worthy of the reverence of all men. Religion can never be a matter of mere intellectual belief or philosophic reasoning; religion is always and forever a mode of reacting to the situations of life; it is a species of conduct. Religion embraces thinking, feeling, and acting reverently toward some reality which we deem worthy of universal adoration.

If something has become a religion in your experience, it is self-evident that you already have become an active evangel of that religion since you deem the supreme concept of your religion as being worthy of the worship of all mankind, all universe intelligences. If you are not a positive and missionary evangel of your religion, you are self-deceived in that what you call a religion is only a traditional belief or a mere system of intellectual philosophy. If your religion is a spiritual experience, your object of worship must be the universal spirit reality and ideal of all your spiritualized concepts. All religions based on fear, emotion, tradition, and philosophy I term the intellectual religions, while those based on true spirit experience I would term the true religions. The object of religious devotion may be material or spiritual, true or false, real or unreal, human or divine. Religions can therefore be either good or evil.

Morality and religion are not necessarily the same. A system of morals, by grasping an object of worship, may become a religion. A religion, by losing its universal appeal to loyalty and supreme devotion, may evolve into a system of philosophy or a code of morals. This thing, being, state, or order of existence, or possibility of attainment which constitutes the supreme ideal of religious
Page 1781 loyalty, and which is the recipient of the religious devotion of those who worship, is God. Regardless of the name applied to this ideal of spirit reality, it is God.

The social characteristics of a true religion consist in the fact that it invariably seeks to convert the individual and to transform the world. Religion implies the existence of undiscovered ideals which far transcend the known standards of ethics and morality embodied in even the highest social usages of the most mature institutions of civilization. Religion reaches out for undiscovered ideals, unexplored realities, superhuman values, divine wisdom, and true spirit attainment. True religion does all of this; all other beliefs are not worthy of the name. You cannot have a genuine spiritual religion without the supreme and supernal ideal of an eternal God. A religion without this God is an invention of man, a human institution of lifeless intellectual beliefs and meaningless emotional ceremonies. A religion might claim as the object of its devotion a great ideal. But such ideals of unreality are not attainable; such a concept is illusionary. The only ideals susceptible of human attainment are the divine realities of the infinite values resident in the spiritual fact of the eternal God.

The word God, the idea of God as contrasted with the ideal of God, can become a part of any religion, no matter how puerile or false that religion may chance to be. And this idea of God can become anything which those who entertain it may choose to make it. The lower religions shape their ideas of God to meet the natural state of the human heart; the higher religions demand that the human heart shall be changed to meet the demands of the ideals of true religion.

The religion of Jesus transcends all our former concepts of the idea of worship in that he not only portrays his Father as the ideal of infinite reality but positively declares that this divine source of values and the eternal center of the universe is truly and personally attainable by every mortal creature who chooses to enter the kingdom of heaven on earth, thereby acknowledging the acceptance of sonship with God and brotherhood with man.

That, I submit, is the highest concept of religion the world has ever known, and I pronounce that there can never be a higher since this gospel embraces the infinity of realities, the divinity of values, and the eternity of universal attainments. Such a concept constitutes the achievement of the experience of the idealism of the supreme and the ultimate.

I am not only intrigued by the consummate ideals of this religion of your Master, but I am mightily moved to profess my belief in his announcement that these ideals of spirit realities are attainable; that you and I can enter upon this long and eternal adventure with his assurance of the certainty of our ultimate arrival at the portals of Paradise. My brethren, I am a believer, I have embarked; I am on my way with you in this eternal venture. The Master says he came from the Father, and that he will show us the way. I am fully persuaded he speaks the truth. I am finally convinced that there are no attainable ideals of reality or values of perfection apart from the eternal and Universal Father.

I come, then, to worship, not merely the God of existences, but the God of the possibility of all future existences. Therefore must your devotion to a supreme ideal, if that ideal is real, be devotion to this God of past, present, and future universes of things and beings. And there is no other God, for there cannot possibly be any other God. All other gods are figments of the imagination, illusions of mortal mind, distortions of false logic, and the self-deceptive idols of those who create them. Yes, you can have a religion without this God, but it
Page 1782 does not mean anything.

And if you seek to substitute the word God for the reality of this ideal of the living God, you have only deluded yourself by putting an idea in the place of an ideal, a divine reality. Such beliefs are merely religions of wishful fancy.

I see in the teachings of Jesus, religion at its best. This gospel enables us to seek for the true God and to find him. But are we willing to pay the price of this entrance into the kingdom of heaven? Are we willing to be born again? to be remade? Are we willing to be subject to this terrible and testing process of self-destruction and soul reconstruction?

Has not the Master said: "Whoso would save his life must lose it. Think not that I have come to bring peace but rather a soul struggle"? True, after we pay the price of dedication to the Father's will, we do experience great peace provided we continue to walk in these spiritual paths of consecrated living.

Now are we truly forsaking the lures of the known order of existence while we unreservedly dedicate our quest to the lures of the unknown and unexplored order of the existence of a future life of adventure in the spirit worlds of the higher idealism of divine reality. And we seek for those symbols of meaning wherewith to convey to our fellow men these concepts of the reality of the idealism of the religion of Jesus, and we will not cease to pray for that day when all mankind shall be thrilled by the communal vision of this supreme truth. Just now, our focalized concept of the Father, as held in our hearts, is that God is spirit; as conveyed to our fellows, that God is love.

The religion of Jesus demands living and spiritual experience. Other religions may consist in traditional beliefs, emotional feelings, philosophic consciousness, and all of that, but the teaching of the Master requires the attainment of actual levels of real spirit progression.

The consciousness of the impulse to be like God is not true religion. The feelings of the emotion to worship God are not true religion. The knowledge of the conviction to forsake self and serve God is not true religion. The wisdom of the reasoning that this religion is the best of all is not religion as a personal and spiritual experience. True religion has reference to destiny and reality of attainment as well as to the reality and idealism of that which is wholeheartedly faith-accepted. And all of this must be made personal to us by the revelation of the Spirit of Truth.

And thus ended the dissertations of the Greek philosopher, one of the greatest of his race, who had become a believer in the gospel of Jesus

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Beware false prophets!  Often they will tell you what you want to hear, however only the Bible tells you what you need to know.

The Bible makes it point clear:

"Thou shalt not have any other gods before me."

Persist in this dalliance, and you risk the loss of your immortal soul.  
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 06:44:20 am »

Give it break Calvin

you have not demonstrated and operate out of fear, spreading fear.

That is not the way of Jesus our master and you know that.

The only Gods (in your words) here is the Father, Jesus and the Sevenfold Seraphic mission headed by the Ancient of Days. That is all, there no one else!

The last rebel is defeated! and is ready for adjudication and which means a great breakthrough for mankind.  That means for everyone! not just the few! or the so called chosen.

This is bigger than the reformation, this is the true reformation brought about by the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven and mankind can demonstrate that through research, exploration, discovery of the beginning which is the end and verification.

There is no exclusivity in this major breakthrough for man and this truth will smash the doctrine behind terrorism unlike anything else on the planet.  Through shear enlightenment of the complete truth, all the truth.

I rejoice in that fact!

Lucifer, Satan and Caligastia and others are at the doors of Court for there day in court and there will be no white knight to save them.

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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 02:32:23 am »

sevens, Calvin has a point!  Aren't you worried of possibly offending God?  The Bible is very specific about adding and subtracting from it's teachings.  It seems to me that we had best play it safe and take the Bible at it's word.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 04:29:59 am »

Hi 12 Apostles

Naah no way!

Thanks for your concern I appreciate it.  Thats kind.

But I have researched this thoroughly for many years and I use all the scriptures in abundance including other books and I am absolutely sure I am right on to it and I know this is where Jesus and the Father wants everyone to go and its related directly to the heritage of the ages of the beginning of everything.

This is related to the discovered places which are the former things as presented in Isaiah, the beginning of the end.

I am not fearful because I am very intimate with the journey for many years.  These are the places where there is unfinished business of the Father and will serve as an expansion for all mankind, in a deeper and wider way with definition.

Its a total journey in faith and it has not stopped.

Thanks for your concern but I am not fearful in this journey and never will be and I have complete trust in the Father of the Kingdom of Heaven and through the guidance of the Sevenfold Seraphic Mission headed by the Ancient of Days. 

I can present the evidence unlike anyone on this planet and its guided by the books of religion and this will give Christianity so much benefit for the future and at the same time it marks the parting of the ways for many to.

I feel this is the presentation of the Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise of research, exploration, discovery and enlightenment.  Far better way than war and violence and we can all learn something that expands and lifts the veil of ignorance.

Essentially it marks the end of the last rebel as he about to go to court, the universal courts.

Thank you.

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